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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 18:59:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I read that, too. I suspect he might change his mind if someone, let's say 'classically oriented' took over at one of the big 2. The way things are right now, though, Marvel and DC have essentially become a stepping stone to get a deal to do your own thing and have a chance to create the next Walking Dead. It'll be interesting to see how long that lasts. His rationale is not who runs the company but how the financials work out in the long term and where his mindset is. I used to be on a private mailing list (remember those?) with Kurt during his Avengers and Conan tenure, when he also was doing Astro City (our own Crimebuster was also a veteran of that list), and Kurt would often talk about how he needed to approach writing creator owned work vs. work for hire on other people's characters, and that he just enjoyed the creative process on creator owned more, even if it was more time consuming and intensive, but that his love of the characters fueled his work for hire stuff, but he suspected one he scratched that itch and got it out of his system that he would want to focus exclusively on creator-owned stuff because he had a ton of ideas he wanted to get to, explore and develop, and that long term the financial rewards were better for creator owned even when work for hire was more lucrative in the short term. He said it required a shift of gears to go form one to the other, and then when he got sick, he stuck to work for hire for a while because it was easier to do when he wasn't feeling 100%-Astro City would take too much out of him while he was sick, but if he had his choice and could do only one, and wa healthy enough to do it, he would stick to creator-owned stuff. That was a decade go, he's gotten his health issues under control, and I think he has just gotten to the point in his career where the allure of the work-for-hire sandbox characters isn't there any more; he told the stories he wanted to tell with them for the most part, so I don't expect a change of heart from him even if the regimes change at DC and Marvel. -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 10, 2015 21:41:46 GMT -5
You might be right....probably just wishing thinking on my part.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 15, 2015 23:38:32 GMT -5
Just to drive my point home....
In Ms. Marvel, everyone seems to know how the universe reset, and they're pretty happy about it. I'm not clear how she's supposed to have a secret identity if Tony Stark is driving her home. At least the Avengers Roster was the same though.... in Thor, we see Capt. Marvel and Dr. Strange helping Iron Man, who this time is best bros with Strange... completely the opposite of in Iron Man and different still from his own book.
Oh, and no one else ever mentions anything about the mutant crisis, despite the hints that Scott Summers did something horrible in the flash forward. Though, it's not totally clear that they're not just referring to AvX, to be honest.
Also, Storm is the worst leader ever. Someone else really needs to step up. Extrordinary X-Men was actually not terrible, just boring.. it seemed a slightly more extreme re-telling of the Second Coming story line, with Storm and Magik featured instead of Cyclops and Wolverine. Between that and the time gap, it sorta felt like an alternate future or something,
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 6, 2016 1:23:47 GMT -5
So apparently, when they re-built the Marvel universe, they forgot that Mary Jane Watson and Tony STark now each other.. they finally paid off the Cover tease (2 issues later), and apparently Mary Jane is the new Pepper Potts(just the secretary part, not the Rescue part)... the comic makes it clear they don't know each other.
So did Civil War not happen anymore? If all Bendis wanted was Pepper, why not use Pepper? Or make up a new character? Having it be Mary Jane is just trolling.
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Post by Dizzy D on Feb 6, 2016 5:01:22 GMT -5
So apparently, when they re-built the Marvel universe, they forgot that Mary Jane Watson and Tony STark now each other.. they finally paid off the Cover tease (2 issues later), and apparently Mary Jane is the new Pepper Potts(just the secretary part, not the Rescue part)... the comic makes it clear they don't know each other. So did Civil War not happen anymore? If all Bendis wanted was Pepper, why not use Pepper? Or make up a new character? Having it be Mary Jane is just trolling. Wouldn't it be One More Day why they no longer know each other? Stark only knew her because she was Spider-Man's wife (could be that they knew each other from something other, have not been reading Iron Man nor Spider-Man in a long time). |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 6, 2016 8:16:12 GMT -5
I know during Civil War they lived in Avengers Mansion... is that before or after One More Day? I've never read that, just heard about it  I also know that she was a major part of Spider Island (which the Avengers were involved in). He says he knows she is used to dealing with superheroes, but asks like someone just told him that, not that he had personal knowledge. It's just a dumb gimmick to try to get a few more eyeballs... I hate that. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 6, 2016 17:39:48 GMT -5
So apparently, when they re-built the Marvel universe, they forgot that Mary Jane Watson and Tony STark now each other.. they finally paid off the Cover tease (2 issues later), and apparently Mary Jane is the new Pepper Potts(just the secretary part, not the Rescue part)... the comic makes it clear they don't know each other. So did Civil War not happen anymore? If all Bendis wanted was Pepper, why not use Pepper? Or make up a new character? Having it be Mary Jane is just trolling. Probably because the Spider-man team wasn't doing anything with her, and they figure putting her in Iron Man would attract some readers. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 11, 2016 17:46:45 GMT -5
So how 'bout Strange Fruit? That sounded.... reallly..... bad. Like, really bad. Was it really bad?
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 15, 2016 14:39:13 GMT -5
Reread a bunch of his Daredevil:
1) I am fairly sure that he read or at least skimmed every issue of Daredevil before starting on the series - He references the Wally Wood, Frank Miller, Brian Michael Bendis and Ed Brubaker runs - And probably a few more I either haven't read or don't remember much about. That is good research!
2) He pays attention to his artist's strengths, and tried to develop an individual "look" for the book, from covers on down.
3) Every issue has some substance to it - It's not just part 36 in a 1,047 part series Hickman style - but sub-plots are developed over a long time and he always seems to have a clear idea of where the book is going.
4) For a supposedly "lighter" Daredevil book that got really freaking dark for a long time! Cancer! Ex-Wife in a mental institution! Crazy paranoia! The poor fate of the major enemy in the first series!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 15:19:05 GMT -5
Mark Waid is my favorite modern writer. His runs on DC & Marvels titles usually are some of my favorites. In the 90's when I hardly read any DC or Marvel titles the few I read were written by Waid.
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 15, 2016 18:08:01 GMT -5
So how 'bout Strange Fruit? That sounded.... reallly..... bad. Like, really bad. Was it really bad? It's only two issues in as we wait on JG Jones to produce the art. I thought it was good so far. |
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 16, 2016 11:59:28 GMT -5
I just went through the DCE Essential trades freebie and Kingdom Come is like the only Waid in there. No Flash or anything else. Even the pre-Flashpoint Flash listings go pretty much from silver age to Johns early stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 15:16:16 GMT -5
I just went through the DCE Essential trades freebie and Kingdom Come is like the only Waid in there. No Flash or anything else. Even the pre-Flashpoint Flash listings go pretty much from silver age to Johns early stuff. Aren't most of the Waid Flash trades out of print anyways? The Essential pamphlet is to market books in print only, so unless they bring the Waid Flash books back in print, they wouldn't be in something like that. There are large gaps in what DC has collected and kept in print, not just for Flash or for Waid. -M |
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Post by String on Feb 17, 2016 20:50:56 GMT -5
I just went through the DCE Essential trades freebie and Kingdom Come is like the only Waid in there. No Flash or anything else. Even the pre-Flashpoint Flash listings go pretty much from silver age to Johns early stuff. Aren't most of the Waid Flash trades out of print anyways? The Essential pamphlet is to market books in print only, so unless they bring the Waid Flash books back in print, they wouldn't be in something like that. There are large gaps in what DC has collected and kept in print, not just for Flash or for Waid. -M Amazon has a listing for a Flash by Waid Volume One for release around Sept of this year so it appears that FINALLY, DC is starting to reprint Waid's Flash run. Because, yes, the majority of his trades are out-of-print. I like Waid, I like his approach to characters, his style of writing, his focus. As someone mentioned earlier, I think with certain artists, he's able to bring out their absolute best. His work on Wally West is classic and it's a crying shame that DC has trampled all over and dismissed it all. I thoroughly enjoyed his latest Daredevil run and while some complain of making Matthew more light-hearted swashbuckler, Waid injected quite a bit of darkness into it as well. Ikari is a brilliant original villain that I'd love to see again but sadly, I think he'll be overlooked now. I will say this much, over the last decade or so, I've read far more of Waid that I've liked and enjoyed than I haven't. Is he the best? Perhaps not but he and Busiek are the only writers that I'll give immediate looks upon any of their work, past or present, for I know both will have good quality to them. |
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Post by Randle-El on Feb 18, 2016 10:54:37 GMT -5
I haven't read a ton of his non-Marvel/DC output, but what I have read has me convinced that he's better when he's writing established, classic superhero characters than he is for independent/creator-owned. I sometimes get the feeling that his non-Marvel/DC stuff is really just Marvel/DC stuff that he wasn't able to do for whatever reason. Count me as another who loved Kingdom Come. Even though it has an ensemble cast, I consider Kingdom Come to be a Superman story, and I think Waid's take on Superman really jives with my sensibilities of the character. Birthright also gets thumbs up from me for similar reasons. It also happens to have one of my favorite splash pages:  I also enjoyed his Daredevil run, and he wrote one of my favorite Batman stories in Detective Comics Annual #2 (although, as he rightly pointed out when I mentioned this to him at Baltimore Comic Con last year, technically it's not a Batman story since Batman isn't in it):  |
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