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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 5:17:02 GMT -5
Lack of licensed properties to pay the bills with.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 10:40:35 GMT -5
I like Sojourn and Greg Land. I remember buying a whole run of them from...gasp!...Mile High Comics.... I giveth not one arse that he traces as long as the finished product on paper is nice to look at. Is it nice to look at though? It's kind of superficially slick, but his characters all look like the same person and their facial expressions rarely match what they're doing and saying. |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 31, 2015 17:02:19 GMT -5
I like Sojourn and Greg Land. I remember buying a whole run of them from...gasp!...Mile High Comics.... I giveth not one arse that he traces as long as the finished product on paper is nice to look at. Is it nice to look at though? It's kind of superficially slick, but his characters all look like the same person and their facial expressions rarely match what they're doing and saying. I've only ever bought Greg Land books if it's been part of a long-running series I was collecting (Uncanny X-Men and Iron Man). I will not willingly purchase a new series with Land on art due to the staged look of his characters, the same face on every female, and his obvious tracing of other mediums. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 19:54:13 GMT -5
Me likey...  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 22:10:52 GMT -5
The only Crossgen title I ever read was "Ruse". I really liked it. I don't remember why I never tried any other titles.
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Post by Gene on Jan 1, 2016 0:17:34 GMT -5
Is it nice to look at though? It's kind of superficially slick, but his characters all look like the same person and their facial expressions rarely match what they're doing and saying. I've only ever bought Greg Land books if it's been part of a long-running series I was collecting (Uncanny X-Men and Iron Man). I will not willingly purchase a new series with Land on art due to the staged look of his characters, the same face on every female, and his obvious tracing of other mediums. Same here. I have a hard time paying money for a book full of the same artistic missteps that my first year students make. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 0:33:26 GMT -5
I used to have a nearly complete run of everything Crossgen that I got in a collection I picked up on Craigslist. It was missing the last 3-4 issues of pretty much every title. A lot of them looked cool but I never got around to reading any of them.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 1, 2016 0:43:33 GMT -5
The only Crossgen title I ever read was "Ruse". I really liked it. I don't remember why I never tried any other titles. This was the only one I ever read as well. I still have the complete run of issues somewhere in my house. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 1, 2016 13:20:48 GMT -5
Me likey... He's going for Wally Wood style "pretty" here, huh? Complete with Wally Wood style swipes. I did like him fine on Sojourn but lost track of him soon after that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 14:30:47 GMT -5
I think one of my favorite CrossGen series (which was too short-lived) was El Cazador, a pirate comic by Chuck Dixon with gorgeous art by Steve Epting...     6 issues plus a special (not with Epting art). -M |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 1, 2016 14:57:39 GMT -5
Is it nice to look at though? It's kind of superficially slick, but his characters all look like the same person and their facial expressions rarely match what they're doing and saying. I've only ever bought Greg Land books if it's been part of a long-running series I was collecting (Uncanny X-Men and Iron Man). I will not willingly purchase a new series with Land on art due to the staged look of his characters, the same face on every female, and his obvious tracing of other mediums. I never got the Land hate. His Birds of Prey run was very nice. Did he get seduced to the dark side afterward? |
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Post by the4thpip on Jan 1, 2016 15:10:44 GMT -5
I've only ever bought Greg Land books if it's been part of a long-running series I was collecting (Uncanny X-Men and Iron Man). I will not willingly purchase a new series with Land on art due to the staged look of his characters, the same face on every female, and his obvious tracing of other mediums. I never got the Land hate. His Birds of Prey run was very nice. Did he get seduced to the dark side afterward? About that time, yeah. He went from drawing to photo referencing to tracing to just copying (a very small number of re-used) image files he finds on the internet into assembled pages that don't tell the story well and then having his inker trace those. Here is an example where he turned Brad Pitt into Magneto and didn't really do much drawing at all, if you consider there was an inker involved as well.  There are other examples where he didn't just use photos, but other artists' creations like Industrial Light and Magic's Dinosaurs from Jurassic Parc as Dragons in Sojourn, or other comic book artists' drawings. Again, not "swiping" or tracing, but scanning, selecting, pasting. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 1, 2016 15:14:35 GMT -5
I guess once you take the shortcuts, there's no going back.
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Post by the4thpip on Jan 1, 2016 15:24:55 GMT -5
I guess once you take the shortcuts, there's no going back. There is "taking a shortcut" and then there is staying wherever you are, because futz it. Exhibit B: The same copied and pasted image of Sandra Bullock, the only differences are create by people other than Land, his inkers and colorists.  It's perfectly fine to enjoy Land's art, of course. The same way people enjoy McDonald's burgers, Hostess Twinkies and Fluff. Just don't claim that it is good art, because it is neither good nor truly art. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 1, 2016 17:36:32 GMT -5
The only Crossgen title I ever read was "Ruse". I really liked it. I don't remember why I never tried any other titles. I really, REALLY liked Ruse. Definitely my favorite of a generally quite strong slate of books. Negation - Kind of a Crossgen Universe Team-Up - was second. El Cazador was good, too, because pirates! Y'know, come to think, Crossgen struck me as a more organized version of Atlas/Seabord. |
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