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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 5, 2016 23:32:29 GMT -5
Didn't Peter Parker die for a while during the clone saga, only to come back and have Ben Reilly die? Then, of course, there's One More Day... I mentioned the FF a bit above.. not sure about Thing or Sue.. Reed and Johnny both have died. No idea about Black Canary or Shazam... I'll need help from the DC experts there
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Post by chadwilliam on Jan 6, 2016 0:51:55 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Spider-Man died in Spider-Man 17 (the volume which started off as a Todd McFarlane title). He dies and visits Thanos whose wife(?) takes pity on him and brings him back in the same issue.
Has J Jonah Jameson ever died? Or Jimmy Olsen?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 1:35:52 GMT -5
Tim Drake? Grayson, Damien and Jason Todd have, but I don't think Tim Drake has.
Luke Cage (Danny Rand has but I don't think Cage did...people thought he did in the secret experiment that gave him the unbreakable skin but that was a cover to be able to experiment on him. I don't think he's died since then but I could be wrong.
Unless you count the issue of Dr. Strange by Englehart where the entire universe was destroyed except Doc himself and Eternity, and he convinced Eternity to recreate the universe exactly, but everyone in Marvel reality excepet Doc Strange died that issue.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 6, 2016 3:10:06 GMT -5
Is Wolverine still dead? I picked up the issues from a year or so ago when he died and haven't even read them. You can find the answer to that question, updated at regular intervals, on this site: iswolverinestilldead.com
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 6, 2016 3:13:26 GMT -5
That's right... I remember now they did the Artemis thing too during the Byrne run... I wasn't sure if she actually died or not though. I don't think I've read any DCU books between Identity Crisis and the New 52.. good to know about Final Crisis... I guess that does just leave Plastic Man. I'm not sure he counts as a major character, though... has he even been in the New 52 yet? Wolverine is complicated. The 'real' Wolverine is dead, but there's 'Old Man Logan', who is Wolverine from a timeline where all the other heroes died (I think he killed many of them)... he's around now. The hero formerly known as X-23 is Wolverine now. I don't remember Phyla-Vell much, other than her death. I do remember wondering where Legacy was... did he die? Or was he just ignored completely. So, upon further reflection, has the Thing ever died? Or Sue? I know they offed Johnny and Reed a couple times... I don't remember the other two though. Genis Vell is very, very dead. Baron Zemo scattered his body parts across another dimension.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 6, 2016 3:23:36 GMT -5
Daredevil? Dick Grayson? Hank Pym must have died at some point, right? I'm pretty sure Hank Pym died at the end of Avengers Academy, when his miniaturized Avengers Mansion thingy collapsed... I don't think he's been back since, actually. I could be wrong about that, though... I also feel like he MAY have been in the first issue of one of the follow up series.. it may be he just disappearned into the microverse for a while. Not quite sure where you got this idea-Hank Pym not only didn't die in Avengers Academy, he has been pretty active across the Avengers books for the past few years. He was in Secret Avengers for awhile, played significant roles in Avengers vs X-Men and Age of Ultron, rescued the Wasp from the Microverse, ran the Avengers A.I team, and was the one who discovered that the Beyonders were responsible for the imminent collapse of reality just before the recent Secret Wars event. He apparently merged with Ultron in the Rage of Ultron GN.
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Post by Dizzy D on Jan 6, 2016 3:45:48 GMT -5
Back to the first page: regardiing Beast and Iceman: do the deaths in Infinity Gauntlet count?
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Post by Spike-X on Jan 6, 2016 6:14:50 GMT -5
Technically, the entire Marvel multiverse died in the lead-up to Secret War. But, discounting that...
Jessica Jones and Ms Marvel (Kamala Khan) have, as far as I'm aware, been untouched by the cold grip of she who Thanos would call his lover.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 6, 2016 13:38:08 GMT -5
Technically, the entire Marvel multiverse died in the lead-up to Secret War. But, discounting that... Jessica Jones and Ms Marvel (Kamala Khan) have, as far as I'm aware, been untouched by the cold grip of she who Thanos would call his lover. What, Madonna?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 6, 2016 13:55:52 GMT -5
Not quite sure where you got this idea-Hank Pym not only didn't die in Avengers Academy, he has been pretty active across the Avengers books for the past few years. He was in Secret Avengers for awhile, played significant roles in Avengers vs X-Men and Age of Ultron, rescued the Wasp from the Microverse, ran the Avengers A.I team, and was the one who discovered that the Beyonders were responsible for the imminent collapse of reality just before the recent Secret Wars event. He apparently merged with Ultron in the Rage of Ultron GN. I forgot about Avengers AI.... I'll have to look at Avengers Academy again... SOMETHING happened at the end... I don't remember him at all in AvX.. which may have been before the end of Academy anyway. Rescuing Wasp from the Microverse was defintely before. Age of Ultron isn't really an in-continuity story, IMO. I didnt' read Rage of Ultron, but I thought that was similar. Other suggestions: Tim Drake may have died at some point during Futures End? He got shunted to the future (to replace Terry McGinnis), but he's ALSO with the Titans still. no idea how all that played out... someone who read Futures End would have to commen. Luke Cage might be correct... there was an issue of Mighty Avengers where some of them died and came back, but it was within the same issue, so that barely counts, and I'm not sure it was Cage anyway. I'm not counting Secret Wars (that just happened) or Infinity Gauntlet (where just about everyone died)... since that's just silly. Jessica Jones I know nothing about, so I'll take your word for it. Kamala hasn't been around long enough yet... I'm sure its coming. Same with Sam Alexander, I'd guess. Jonah Jameson and Jimmy Olsen aren't superheroes, so they don't count... though I'm sure Jimmy must have died in some wacky silver age Super-book, right?
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jan 6, 2016 14:14:45 GMT -5
Does it count as death if Marvel characters died on Earth-8 ?
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 6, 2016 14:20:46 GMT -5
Not quite sure where you got this idea-Hank Pym not only didn't die in Avengers Academy, he has been pretty active across the Avengers books for the past few years. He was in Secret Avengers for awhile, played significant roles in Avengers vs X-Men and Age of Ultron, rescued the Wasp from the Microverse, ran the Avengers A.I team, and was the one who discovered that the Beyonders were responsible for the imminent collapse of reality just before the recent Secret Wars event. He apparently merged with Ultron in the Rage of Ultron GN. I forgot about Avengers AI.... I'll have to look at Avengers Academy again... SOMETHING happened at the end... I don't remember him at all in AvX.. which may have been before the end of Academy anyway. Rescuing Wasp from the Microverse was defintely before. Jan's return from the Microverse was in Avengers #32-34, dated December 2012-January 2013. The last issue of Avengers Academy was also published in January 2013, and ended with Hank discussing the future of the Academy with Veil.
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Post by Randle-El on Jan 6, 2016 14:42:17 GMT -5
Squirrel Girl?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 7, 2016 16:47:28 GMT -5
Is Wolverine still dead? I picked up the issues from a year or so ago when he died and haven't even read them. They are at the bottom of my read list currently as I have heard they were so-so. Ima pose an add on here...who SHOULD die? And who should have never died? I realize this section of the board is dedicated more to classic comics, but one character I was upset about dying was Phyla-Vell, the daughter of Mar-Vell at the conclusion of DnA's Guardians of the Galaxy series. I was intrigued with the path Phyla had taken through her Quasar and Martyr identities, and was disappointed to see her story get cut short so unceremoniously. I thought it was a waste. Absolutely! Not only was Phylla starting to reveal her potential, but her relationship with Adam Warlock was also getting interesting. Both she and the GotG Warlock should have stayed alive.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jan 7, 2016 19:20:29 GMT -5
Did Etrigan ever die? I have complete runs of his first 3 series plus odds and ends, but I haven't followed him of late...
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