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Post by MDG on Jan 16, 2016 11:22:39 GMT -5
This anecdote via Steve Rude made the rounds a few years back regarding Alex Toth's blunt critique of one of his pieces.
I also recall hearing that Neal Adams had taken to mentoring Frank Miller early in his career and was giving up hope on the guy.... to which Adams told him "then keep doing what you're doing". I think Toth and Adams were/are both guys who default to "the right way is my way." |
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Post by Trevor on Jan 16, 2016 13:43:20 GMT -5
My problem with meeting comic creators or musicians that I love is that I usually become completely tongue-tied and can't say much beyond a stuttering 'I love your work, thank you'. People who I've borderline worshipped for decades can be sitting right in front of me, looking completely engaged and wanting to speak with me, and I can barely open my mouth.
I did have one particularly great interaction with Neal Adams last year or so. I'm not sure if I've shared it here or not. I'll do a search.
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Post by Trevor on Jan 16, 2016 20:40:03 GMT -5
^ Maybe I haven't told that story here. The full story is at my first forum linked here, but I guess the highlights are below. Please forgive the length of even this short version. I have few celebrity stories so I was quite verbose. My local comic shop has Neal Adams coming in for a signing this afternoon. I've arranged to get off work early so I can make it, one free signing per person. Crap, head shot sketches are $150! Just spent 20 minutes talking to fellow fans and watching him do a sketch and tell stories. It was pretty awesome. Going back with a Micronauts #7 for him to sign and buying a sketch. The past couple of hours have been incredible. I'm probably too exhausted to post much until tomorrow, but I'll at least comment on the below. Micronauts are not only my favorite toys of all-time, but Bill Mantlo and Michael Golden's The Micronauts is my favorite comic series ever, and possibly the main reason I'm a comic book fan. Man-Thing is my favorite Marvel character. Michael Golden, who drew that cover to issue 7, is one of my three favorite artists. And I just found out tonight that Neal Adams, another of the three, inked the cover. I hurriedly riffled thru a short comic box looking for a book for him to sign, and Micronauts 7 was one of the titles I saw, wishing to myself that it was Adams'. Thinking I had failed in my quick quest to find a monthly for him to sign, I went to the signing with just the Deadman book. In line for him, the guy behind me happened to be the worlds biggest Micronauts fans. Seriously. He runs one of the best Micronauts sites, had his collection used for the Pallisades team that came out with the new Micronauts toys last decade, and had four gorgeous pages of Micronauts comic series pitch he wrote. I could go on and on but it was just the most amazing evening with all my nerd favorite things merging into an hour + of standing next to and sitting with and talking to Neal fucking Adams while he drew me a Baron Karza sketch. We ended up talking to Neal Adams quite a lot about Marty Abrams (former Mego CEO) and the reason why Micronauts has never been put in trades or revived properly. Apparently Marty is universally loathed and, true story, Neal sang us a little ditty about Marty Abrams being a f'ing a'hole. It was a surreal moment in a day full of them.  |
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Post by Spike-X on Jan 17, 2016 4:03:08 GMT -5
Very cool! Neal Adams is one of my favourite artists of all time.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 17, 2016 7:01:44 GMT -5
Nice sketch but it doesn't distinguish itself as a Neal Adams drawing.
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Post by Trevor on Jan 17, 2016 7:58:28 GMT -5
Nice sketch but it doesn't distinguish itself as a Neal Adams drawing. True. But I've never been an 'art guy'. If I want to admire an artist's classic stuff, I have the comics themselves or can buy a print. I only bought this sketch because it captured the moment. Plus, I think asking him to draw a character he only drew once, and 35 years previous, made him work at it harder and gave me more time to enjoy the process.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 8:01:00 GMT -5
Nice sketch but it doesn't distinguish itself as a Neal Adams drawing. True. But I've never been an 'art guy'. If I want to admire an artist's classic stuff, I have the comics themselves or can buy a print. I only bought this sketch because it captured the moment. Plus, I think asking him to draw a character he only drew once, and 35 years previous, made him work at it harder and gave me more time to enjoy the process. And I think that is awesome! Especially the sentiment of making him work harder and concentrate more on your sketch for all those reasons. He might remember drawing that for you in the future.  Awesome story, too! Thanks for sharing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 9:00:07 GMT -5
Nice sketch but it doesn't distinguish itself as a Neal Adams drawing. Does it have to distinguish itself as an Adams drawing? Guy only drew the character once and it was 35 years ago. Trevor posts a nice story where he was obviously excited and and here it's followed up by what sounds like negativity. Or at least some people may take it that way.  Be happy for the guy. |
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Post by Trevor on Jan 17, 2016 9:44:14 GMT -5
Nice sketch but it doesn't distinguish itself as a Neal Adams drawing. Nice sketch but it doesn't distinguish itself as a Neal Adams drawing. Does it have to distinguish itself as an Adams drawing? Guy only drew the character once and it was 35 years ago. Trevor posts a nice story where he was obviously excited and and here it's followed up by what sounds like negativity. Or at least some people may take it that way. Be happy for the guy. I don't think the comment was out of line. One thing I've learned more and more in this hobby is the extreme diversity of opinion on things. Not saying that this case is really that big of a difference, but people have very strong opinions on art and what they think is a good piece. I'm probably in the minority on many issues of this hobby. And unlike icctrombone above, I can say mean things, like how variants and slabbing/grading are evil and are killing our hobby. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 17, 2016 10:10:21 GMT -5
Nice sketch but it doesn't distinguish itself as a Neal Adams drawing. Does it have to distinguish itself as an Adams drawing? Guy only drew the character once and it was 35 years ago. Trevor posts a nice story where he was obviously excited and and here it's followed up by what sounds like negativity. Or at least some people may take it that way. Be happy for the guy. I am happy for him, but be honest, If I showed you that drawing would you know it was from Adams? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 10:38:00 GMT -5
Does it have to distinguish itself as an Adams drawing? Guy only drew the character once and it was 35 years ago. Trevor posts a nice story where he was obviously excited and and here it's followed up by what sounds like negativity. Or at least some people may take it that way. Be happy for the guy. I am happy for him, but be honest, If I showed you that drawing would you know it was from Adams? But that is not the point, as Cooper already stated. What you said was rude, whether or not Trevor cares. And THAT is being honest. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 11:38:48 GMT -5
Does it have to distinguish itself as an Adams drawing? Guy only drew the character once and it was 35 years ago. Trevor posts a nice story where he was obviously excited and and here it's followed up by what sounds like negativity. Or at least some people may take it that way. Be happy for the guy. I am happy for him, but be honest, If I showed you that drawing would you know it was from Adams? If I'm to be honest too that is not the first time someone posted something that makes them happy be it a purchase or something else and you've come across as rude or very negative. Myself included. Whether you meant it to be or not. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 17, 2016 13:55:33 GMT -5
I think I'll respond to the previous two posts-
to cooper, If I have offended you in the past , I apologize. It appears that you are keeping count of the " rude or negative " comments I've made in the past and I would suggest that you could have asked me about it before today , either at the time of the post or in a PM.
But I will say, that I don't know of a member of this forum that hasn't at one time or another made a negative comment. Or all we all supposed to just agree with everything that's posted?
CW- I'm kind of taken aback by your comments as well. YOU should know who I am from our past encounters. For the record, Trevor is a FB friend of mine who I've followed in some threads in CBR as well as, over in this forum. I never said he was a sucker or taken advantage of by Adams. I said that It doesn't look like a Neal Adams drawing and I stand by it. That's no reflection on him. I've always found that getting a autograph or sketch is secondary to talking to the Comic pro.
If Trevor wasn't offended by what I said, why are the both of you?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 14:10:45 GMT -5
CW- I'm kind of taken aback by your comments as well. YOU should know who I am from our past encounters. For the record, Trevor is a FB friend of mine who I've followed in some threads in CBR as well as, over in this forum. I never said he was a sucker or taken advantage of by Adams. I said that It doesn't look like a Neal Adams drawing and I stand by it. That's no reflection on him. I've always found that getting a autograph or sketch is secondary to talking to the Comic pro. Oh. Well, that kind of changes everything. One of these days, I'm going to stick my nose in the right place at the right time, and end up sticking up for someone who needs it. I've failed twice now at that, so perhaps I will keep my mouth shut from now on. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 17, 2016 14:11:51 GMT -5
CW- I'm kind of taken aback by your comments as well. YOU should know who I am from our past encounters. For the record, Trevor is a FB friend of mine who I've followed in some threads in CBR as well as, over in this forum. I never said he was a sucker or taken advantage of by Adams. I said that It doesn't look like a Neal Adams drawing and I stand by it. That's no reflection on him. I've always found that getting a autograph or sketch is secondary to talking to the Comic pro. Oh. Well, that kind of changes everything. One of these days, I'm going to stick my nose in the right place at the right time, and end up sticking up for someone who needs it. I've failed twice now at that, so perhaps I will keep my mouth shut from now on. No way. I think you're awesome.  |
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