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Post by spoon on Apr 12, 2016 21:16:16 GMT -5
It looks fair enough, though my reaction to Flagg (I guess?) telling those politicians/military men what to do when Superman goes bad, is "you don't call Suicide Squad, because they would get pasted." OK, maybe Katana could get a lucky shot in, but the rest are the people Batman spends an afternoon on. Well, plus, it seems to miss the point of the Suicide Squad. They're very unsavory criminals. You don't send them to the White House to stop (oh so scary) Superman from kidnapping the President. You send them on shady missions that you don't want people to connect to the U.S. government. They're like the IMF. You disavow them if they get caught. They're expendable. |
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Post by Warmonger on Aug 2, 2016 13:13:03 GMT -5
First reviews are coming in and...they aren't good.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 2, 2016 13:25:45 GMT -5
Alternative version !
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Aug 2, 2016 14:29:55 GMT -5
First reviews are coming in and...they aren't good. Yeah it's currently at 34% on RT...much worse than Ghostbusters. So disappointing. I really had high hopes this movie would deliver. I'll try to take solace in that I liked BvS (sitting at 27% on RT), so maybe there's a slice of hope I'll still like Suicide Squad. |
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Post by Gene on Aug 2, 2016 21:31:24 GMT -5
I just got back from an advance screening and really enjoyed it. The narrative is a bit of a structural mess, but nowhere near as bad as BvS was. Once you get past the first act it starts to come together. The characters were, for the most part, pretty well fleshed out and all had clear motivations for doing the things they do. At the expense of damning the movie with faint praise, I'd say that it's the best of DC's offerings so far.
(It should be noted that I'm not a fan of MoS and I haaaaaaaaated BvS, just to give you an idea of what my expectations were going in.)
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Aug 3, 2016 11:38:44 GMT -5
I just got back from an advance screening and really enjoyed it. The narrative is a bit of a structural mess, but nowhere near as bad as BvS was. Once you get past the first act it starts to come together. The characters were, for the most part, pretty well fleshed out and all had clear motivations for doing the things they do. At the expense of damning the movie with faint praise, I'd say that it's the best of DC's offerings so far. (It should be noted that I'm not a fan of MoS and I haaaaaaaaated BvS, just to give you an idea of what my expectations were going in.) This is encouraging news! |
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Post by Gene on Aug 3, 2016 12:14:10 GMT -5
I just got back from an advance screening and really enjoyed it. The narrative is a bit of a structural mess, but nowhere near as bad as BvS was. Once you get past the first act it starts to come together. The characters were, for the most part, pretty well fleshed out and all had clear motivations for doing the things they do. At the expense of damning the movie with faint praise, I'd say that it's the best of DC's offerings so far. (It should be noted that I'm not a fan of MoS and I haaaaaaaaated BvS, just to give you an idea of what my expectations were going in.) This is encouraging news! I can absolutely see why it's getting the critical reaction it's getting, because it does start to fall apart when you start applying any in depth critique. The big difference between this and BvS and Mos is that for all of its faults, it's never boring. |
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Post by earl on Aug 3, 2016 16:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 20:10:15 GMT -5
This is the Forbes review of the movie... Forbes reviewThis is their headline for the review... Yeah that not something you want to hear, but then I was completely turned off by every trailer so it's whatever. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 4:37:18 GMT -5
Ouch, that Forbes review is a massacre. Even with all the other reviews that slammed the film, rating it as worse than GL, the last F4 film and BvS is really brutal.
Makes you wonder where DC/Warner goes from here - every one of their films from the last decade, apart from the (wildly overrated) Nolan Batman films, have been panned; the JLA cameos in BvS were awful, the JLA trailer was awful - the only positive response they're getting is for Batfleck and Wonder Woman.
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Post by Randle-El on Aug 4, 2016 9:50:54 GMT -5
Maybe WB should follow Sony's lead and hire Marvel to take creative control of their films.
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Post by Warmonger on Aug 4, 2016 10:30:12 GMT -5
Maybe WB should follow Sony's lead and hire Marvel to take creative control of their films. That's what needs to happen At least you sure as hell know that Marvel would do characters like Superman justice. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 18:48:32 GMT -5
Some DC fans are so upset with the reviews, they have started a change,org petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes believing it is a Disney conspiracy to slam the DC films (I guess unaware that RT operates under the Time Warner) umbrella and believe the media is conspiring to undermine the DC cinematic efforts because they are in MArvel's/Disney's pockets.
Time for a reality check people...
-M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 18:05:12 GMT -5
Well, I enjoyed the movie. Not for the plot; the villains' powers, motivation, and plot were, shall we say, under-explained. (Hey, there's a big bad, and a big shiny special-effect-thing, what should we do? Blow s**t up!) It's more about the team and how they come together. I wish they'd used a less lazy way to introduce most of the characters than the big exposition/flashback bit at the beginning, but it went down fairly painlessly. Some of the characters are under-utilized (Slipknot? Who?), but no worse than Hawkeye in the first Avengers film. Most had at least one good scene or line. Will Smith does a great job with a (more human than I remember from the comic) Deadshot, and Harley is well done without stealing the movie as I'd feared she might. It moves, it's fun, and it doesn't offend me (except for one scene with Amanda Waller, where they just had to show how dark'n'gritty they can get).
Plus I really liked Leto's Joker. Manic, over-the-top then (barely) restrained, manipulative, dangerous, definitely disturbed and disturbing. It's a neat take on the character. If only he belonged in this movie. I think that's where some reviewers are getting the 'disjointed' bit. Where I was expecting the Joker to be the main villain of the piece, his sub-plot barely intersected with the Squad. He's cool and all, but he's in too much of the movie. On the other hand, Batman is only in flashbacks, and blink and you'll miss the Flash. (Appropriately.) Bruce Wayne, however, gets a post-credit scene setting up a future movie. Justice League vs Suicide Squad, anybody? I'm up for it.
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Post by Warmonger on Aug 5, 2016 19:33:58 GMT -5
Not sure how you could pull off a Justice League vs Suicide Squad movie.
The Justice League would smash in the blink of an eye.
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