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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 4, 2016 7:21:15 GMT -5
my understanding is that magic affects Superman the same way it affects everyone. His powers don't give him an advantage.
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 4, 2016 18:19:52 GMT -5
I've understood the argument that characters on a bigger scale i.e. Superman, Thor, Silver Surfer, Galactus, Martian Manhunter, etc, are harder to write. The bar has to be raised to their level, and we're not nearly at that level.
Still, the limit is on your imagination. If you can dream it, it could happen to any of these characters.
More than knowing how much the character can bench press or how quickly they can circle the globe, are things like, new forms of life and the threats to it. Being stronger doesn't necessarily mean you're able to out think a galactic super mind, or being invulnerable to an undiscovered virus, or being caught in a galactic storm and battered senseless and left adrift.
Are those things we couldn't identify with ?
How to choose where to be ? What's the greatest crisis ? What's more important ? Stopping a Super-Villain Of The Day or a monsoon with thousands of lives on the line ? What about the government asking for help ? Which government ? What organization ? Do you do charity events ? In doing that, does it endanger innocents there to see you and contribute ? Do you protect them ? How can you ensure their safety ?
What if someone set you up with an evil double ? What if it was something you didn't want to do but they wanted to show you doing it ? Do you have a robot squad to help ? Artificial intelligence ? Could they go rogue ? What if saving Earth meant balancing our lives against a parallel dimension ? Would their super characters be heroes or villains ?
There's all kinds of stuff that's possible, but it may not be possible with corporately owned characters. That's why some of the "knock-off" characters, like Mr Majestic, Supreme, Invincible, etc, are so fascinating.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 4, 2016 18:25:24 GMT -5
Superman is interesting primarily as a parable for absolute power not corrupting absolutely. I think that's often lost nowadays with the focus on cinematic fist fights. I also think Superman: The Movie got it right; Clark is far more interesting with a sense of humor. Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. Superman stories should have an element of moral choice - and that's more important to how the character works than any other superhero.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 4, 2016 18:26:14 GMT -5
If I remember right, Neil Gaiman's Sandman was partially based around refuting this.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Apr 24, 2016 13:37:56 GMT -5
Ron Post. I can appreciate Howarth's desire to paint him as the perfect killing machine that always wins, but sometimes his victories seem to make no sense (such as breaking out of a time loop for no appreciable reason).
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