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Post by hondobrode on Jun 1, 2014 19:12:31 GMT -5
I just bought a bunch on Comixology and was surprised how much I liked them.
Yes, Hunter Thompson-type, but, read the next 2 issues to complete the first arc to get a better feel.
I'm reading them now and finishing completing the title.
Darick Robertson has a different style but it works for this title. Kind of has a funky chaotic feel.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 1, 2014 20:47:54 GMT -5
There's a whole lot more going on here than, Oh Hunter Thompson. Maybe if you aren't very familiar with Thompson, but if you know much about him the differences become far more obvious than the superficial similarities.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 22:22:03 GMT -5
Yeah, the biggest difference is Thompson isn't Lobo. I don't think there's any way for the series to turn around for me within the next two issues, so I'm not bothering. Besides, I only have the one issue, it's a reprint.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 1, 2014 22:46:39 GMT -5
I haven't read Transmetropolitan, but dupont's critique reminds me of one of the things I don't like about Jeph Loeb. He's trying to be Raymond Chandler, but it's a very superficial treatment and Loeb just isn't anywhere near talented enough to pull it off for readers who know Chandler from the novels.
Loeb's understanding of Chandler is deep enough for readers who only know Chandler from Philip Marlowe parodies in Warner Brothers cartoons, so I think that's why Loeb's work is so highly regarded in some circles.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 23:12:11 GMT -5
As big a fan of Warren Ellis as I am, I was not enamored with Transmet either. I got through 3 or 4 volumes of it before I stopped though. The thing with Ellis is, he tends to veer towards extremes and sensationalism, and at his best, he keeps that tendency reigned in, but in Transmet it seemed to me that he wallowed in it. Crooked Little Vein, his first novel is a great example of that dichotomy, most of it is tightly written keeping that tendency reigned in and used on a limited basis to great effect, and is a great read because of it, but when he allows himself to wander and wallow in the extremes and sensational, you wind up with what I consider some of the weakest parts of that novel...including the infamous Godzilla bukkake theatre scenes.
-M
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Post by Jesse on Jun 2, 2014 3:42:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the biggest difference is Thompson isn't Lobo. Neither is Spider Jerusalem  |
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Post by Spike-X on Jun 2, 2014 4:49:04 GMT -5
I've started reading the earliest Doom Patrol stories. Not bad, but I don't think I've got to the real crazy stuff yet (apart from Brain and Monsieur Mallah).
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Post by paulie on Jun 2, 2014 11:03:16 GMT -5
I haven't read Transmetropolitan, but dupont's critique reminds me of one of the things I don't like about Jeph Loeb. He's trying to be Raymond Chandler, but it's a very superficial treatment and Loeb just isn't anywhere near talented enough to pull it off for readers who know Chandler from the novels. Loeb's understanding of Chandler is deep enough for readers who only know Chandler from Philip Marlowe parodies in Warner Brothers cartoons, so I think that's why Loeb's work is so highly regarded in some circles. Well-put. I never could put my finger on what I didn't like about Loeb. Now I know. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 2, 2014 11:10:31 GMT -5
My first read of the month was a disappointment. Transmetropolitan #1. Within the first two panels or so I say "Oh, it's Hunter Thompson" A bit heavy handed to me. It also seemed they took the most superficial elements of Hunter (He's crazy, likes drugs and guns, writes about politics) and left out everything else. I think Doonesbury had a better Hunter homage. And the art was annoying. I can read a comic with bad art, but this was the kind that reminded me of terrible 90's Malibu superhero comics. I don't think I like very many comics from people who come from a superhero pedigree even when they leave the superheroes behind. They bring too many of the tropes with them. The cape is gone, everything else is the same. I only know that Hunter Thompson exists, nothing about him, so that was lost on me. Transmet is, IMHO, great absurbist parody. If you don't like the art, though, you probably won't get into it... half the fun is picking up the funny stuff in the background. |
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on Jun 2, 2014 16:16:58 GMT -5
I'm increasingly of the mind that mean meaniepants-writers a la Warren Ellis are more about being passionate and/or confrontational than being truly cynical and/or disgusting, and that good old Murican sooperhero writers like Jeph Loeb tend to use being 'fun and/or kickass' as essentially a cover to just wallow in their own psychic-dung.
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Post by MDG on Jun 3, 2014 12:21:21 GMT -5
Re-read for the first time in probably more than a decade Love & Rockets book 2, which reprints issues 3 & 4 of the original run. Includes (among others) Heartbreak Soup and 100 Rooms.
Still comes across as excellent stuff. One thing that Los Bros had over a lot of other creators is that they don't come across as "their take on..." And while very much a product of its time, it doesn't feel dated.
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on Jun 3, 2014 12:24:41 GMT -5
Re-read for the first time in probably more than a decade Love & Rockets book 2, which reprints issues 3 & 4 of the original run. Includes (among others) Heartbreak Soup and 100 Rooms. Still comes across as excellent stuff. One thing that Los Bros had over a lot of other creators is that they don't come across as "their take on..." And while very much a product of its time, it doesn't feel dated. That it don't. |
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 3, 2014 12:30:34 GMT -5
That would be a classic, and I totally agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 16:36:20 GMT -5
I didn't realize 100 rooms happened that early on in the original run. The first three issues were Maggie The Mechanic issues, right? So it must have been issue four.
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Post by Jasoomian on Jun 4, 2014 15:12:43 GMT -5
Star Wars #80 (1983) The final pre- Return of the Jedi adventure. The creative team of Duffy/Frenz/Palmer give us "Ellie." Luke, Leia, and 3PO are "undercover" looking for their rebel comrade Tay Vanis, a character created for the comics. They arrive on an Imperial facility that functions primarily as a space warehouse. Vanis has data about the Empire's new superweapon (presumably the Death Star II from RotJ). They run across a hologram recording of Darth Vader who congratulates them on succesfully finding Vanis. A door opens and there's Vanis, sitting in a prison cell where he is now a lobotomized drooling mess. One of the admin droids they had met on base, Ellie, walks in and reveals that she too was undercover, and is actually Vanis' personal droid. Satisifed that Luke & Leia are genuine rebels, she gives them the data on the new Death Star and tells them to leave so she can mercifully euthanize Vanis via self-explosion. Luke, Leia and C3PO walk back to the Falcoln in the rain. A single raindrop runs down 3PO's face giving the appearance of a tear. FIN. Not a bad little story. 22pp. 
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