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Post by The Captain on May 24, 2014 20:05:21 GMT -5
Just read my first Lee/Kirby Thor today, working through Journey Into Mystery 121 to 125, then Mighty Thor 126-130. Really enjoyed much of it, although I'll admit I'm not the biggest Kirby fan in the world. Looking forward to continuing with the series as soon as I can grab the next issues in Masterworks.
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Post by fred2 on May 25, 2014 15:00:32 GMT -5
Agreed. The first ten issues were something new and fresh. The next ten, Maguire only did a few and finished with no. 24. It was his art more than the writers that made that book. Comics should be more about the artist, but sadly the companies put rock star status on the writers (ie: Miller, Moore, Morrison-ugh!) I'll comprehensively disagree with this statement. Comics are a synergy between writer and artist. I also found that the rock star status was heaped upon the likes of Liefield, MacFarlane and Jim Lee in greater measure than any writer.
Frank Miller is a polarizing figure. Grant Morrison started out with two quite fine series in Doom Patrol and Animal Man and then became Grant Morrison.
I haven't read too many bad comics by Alan Moore. In fact, I'd say most have been excellent.
Liefield, McFarlane and Lee are terrible artists. Try Aparo, the Brothers Buscema, Adams and Dillen. Actually, forget everything in the 90's. |
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Post by Action Ace on May 25, 2014 15:30:05 GMT -5
I'll comprehensively disagree with this statement. Comics are a synergy between writer and artist. I also found that the rock star status was heaped upon the likes of Liefield, MacFarlane and Jim Lee in greater measure than any writer.
Frank Miller is a polarizing figure. Grant Morrison started out with two quite fine series in Doom Patrol and Animal Man and then became Grant Morrison.
I haven't read too many bad comics by Alan Moore. In fact, I'd say most have been excellent.
Liefield, McFarlane and Lee are terrible artists. Try Aparo, the Brothers Buscema, Adams and Dillen. Actually, forget everything in the 90's. BAH! I remember plenty of great artists that worked, rose to prominence or debuted in the 1990s. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 25, 2014 16:48:13 GMT -5
Actually, forget everything in the 90's. Because Gaiman was awful. Moore was just terrible in the 90s. Los Bros. Hernandez produced nothing for a decade. Such a ridiculous statement. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 17:00:42 GMT -5
Actually, forget everything in the 90's. Because Gaiman was awful. Moore was just terrible in the 90s. Los Bros. Hernandez produced nothing for a decade. Such a ridiculous statement. Not to mention a couple of guys named Will Eisner and Joe Kubert were still putting out new material in the 90s that was among the best of their storied careers. so even if you aren't a fan of creators who emerged or rose to prominence in the 90s, by dismissing the decade you are dismissing work by some of the grand masters of the medium. But hey, to each their own and all that. -M |
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Post by fanboystranger on May 25, 2014 23:44:40 GMT -5
I'll comprehensively disagree with this statement. Comics are a synergy between writer and artist. I also found that the rock star status was heaped upon the likes of Liefield, MacFarlane and Jim Lee in greater measure than any writer.
Frank Miller is a polarizing figure. Grant Morrison started out with two quite fine series in Doom Patrol and Animal Man and then became Grant Morrison.
I haven't read too many bad comics by Alan Moore. In fact, I'd say most have been excellent.
Liefield, McFarlane and Lee are terrible artists. Try Aparo, the Brothers Buscema, Adams and Dillen. Actually, forget everything in the 90's. Bullshit. Read comics like Terminal City (Michael Lark), Sandman Mystery Theatre (Guy Davis), anything by Leo Manco, Peter Gross on Books of Magic or whatever, JH Williams on Chase, JP Leon on anything (Milestone books preferred), Charlie Adlard on Savage, Allreds rocking ass on anything, John Cassaday , the late Eddy Biukovic, anything by Sean Phillips, Gary Frank,Teddy Kristiansen, Frank Quitely, Chris Weston, D'Israeli, Steve Pugh, etc.
The '90s produced artists that could actually tell stories. Sadly, you'd have to have some taste to have read their stories. Ignore the superhero crap, and rediscover the commercial comics renaissance.
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Post by DubipR on May 26, 2014 8:05:12 GMT -5
For the first time in 20 years since the character's inception, I picked up the first 2 Hellboy trades and I'm going to give them a read. I enjoyed the movies, but this is one comic series I've never tried. I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 13:58:11 GMT -5
I read the Ennis Unknown Soldier run, which was okay. Not bad but not as good as the short lived ongoing.
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Post by Jasoomian on May 26, 2014 21:54:15 GMT -5
Star Wars #79Cover date January 1984, street date Octoberish '83. The penultimate pre- Jedi story as the Jedi adaption plays out in a miniseries. Jo Duffy / Ron Frenz / Tom Palmer "The Big Con" 22pp As we are pre- Jedi, Han Solo is missing! The galaxy's greatest con man, Lando Calrissian knows how to find him. Lando will con some space-pickers into believing that Han has a valuable knick-knack in storage somewhere. Lando will then follow the space-pickers' superior intellect to wherever frozen Han is at. Lando and Chewie leave the Falcoln at home to go incognito. Lando wears a big white glam rock wig and eyepatch as a disguise. Chewie really doesn't neeed a disguise because all Wookiees look alike to the racist space-pickers. In the end, they don't find Han, and Lando had the chintzy-chic space-statuette hidden away the whole time! That's our Lando! Setting aside the somewhat flimsy premise, this is a fun, dense comic with a lot of well-executed gags, and chase and action sequences. The Lando in here really reminded me of the Lando in L. Neil Smith's novels, so much so I briefly thought I had read this comic before. There's no lettercol here because it's Assistant Editors' Month. So instead we get a one-page comic from the asst editor Eliot Brown, who explains how to build a Darth Vader costume out of common household materials. However, the result looks more like Forbush Man; and George Lucas arrives to put the kibosh on it. 
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Post by Jasoomian on May 28, 2014 0:32:56 GMT -5
Boy Illustories #94 (1953)  -- Indicia (and cover) gives title as BOY ILLUSTORIES. GCD insists on BOY COMICS. -- I read a PDF scan downloaded from www.archive.org 9pp. Crimebuster in "The Dangerous Jungle" -- CB is hired by a party of legitimate treasure hunters who have legally bought a bunch of treasure from South American natives to help secure safe passage for their legitimate treasure. When they get there, they notice all of the "natives" look very Aryan. Sure enough, they're Nazis laundering the treasure plundered from Europe. Squeeks rescues CB and they save the day, with some help from the grownups. 9pp: Sniffer & the Super Toothpaste. Gangster thug Sniffer tries to go legit by getting into to the toothpaste business, and immediately spirals into thuggery and a rivalry with Iron Jaw that includes blackmail, assault, and multiple con games. 2pp prose story about boys and crooks in a "Haunted house." 7pp Rocky X travels to a distant planet where the space aliens have futuristic technology and clean cities out of a Swiss Epcot, except that their cities are always destroyed by huge lizard monsters. Rocky X suggests maybe shoot them on the soft side of the neck -- thereby saving the planet. Good art in these stories. Dense pages with 6-9 panels with things happening. The story is told primarily through dialogue, with a few well-placed thought balloons and very little narration. Words aren't wasted describing what we see. The spacescapes and backgrounds in the Rocky X story were quite nice. Backgrounds in the Sniffer story were almost non-existent. A bit of a rush job on that one, maybe. Or maybe that just matched the comic nature of that story better.
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ironchimp
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Post by ironchimp on May 28, 2014 5:53:46 GMT -5
Sure enough, they're Nazis laundering the treasure plundered from Europe. Squeeks rescues CB and they save the day ....go on.... |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 28, 2014 7:35:41 GMT -5
Read most of the Doug Moench Thor (via the epic collection) yesterday... very good stuff. I thought there was a very good mix of traditional superheroing and Asgardian plots. While it WAS a bit weird to see Thor patrolling the streets for muggers, Moench made it work, adding in Thor trying to raise the general good will and nobility of the city (which lead nicely into a battle with Mephisto). Definitely some classics in there.
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Post by paulie on May 28, 2014 9:21:46 GMT -5
Read most of the Doug Moench Thor (via the epic collection) yesterday... very good stuff. I thought there was a very good mix of traditional superheroing and Asgardian plots. While it WAS a bit weird to see Thor patrolling the streets for muggers, Moench made it work, adding in Thor trying to raise the general good will and nobility of the city (which lead nicely into a battle with Mephisto). Definitely some classics in there. The Doug Moench era of Thor has been dying in one of my long boxes for a year or so now. I might just have to plow through 20-30 issues this weekend. I know there is some nice Pollard-Day art. |
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Post by Jesse on May 28, 2014 13:07:58 GMT -5
- Uncanny X-Men #235
- Madelyne Pryor is kidnapped by Magistrates and taken to Genosha.
- While searching for her Rogue and Wolverine are also taken by Magistrates.
- Colossus, Longshot, Dazzler, Psylocke and Havok led by Storm defeat a group of Magistrates.
- Uncanny X-Men #236
- Carol Danvers' personality takes over Rogues body in their effort to escape Genosha
- It's revealed that Wolverine and Carol and have worked together before with Wolverine rescuing her from the KGB
- Rogue and Wolverine escape the Citadel
- Uncanny X-Men #237
- Colossus, Longshot, Dazzler, Psylocke and Havok led by Storm arrive in Genosha
- Uncanny X-Men #238
- Wolverine and Rogue discover a mutant prison camp.
- Uncanny X-Men #270
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 1
- Storm and the New Mutants are attacked, kidnapped by Magistrates and taken to Genosha
- Storm discovers that a brainwashed Havok is working for the Magistrates.
- New Mutants #95
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 2
- It's revealed that Cameron Hodge is still alive.
- Cable, Cannonball, Sunspot and the remaining X-Men call in X-Factor
- Warlock is killed
- X-Factor # 60
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 3
- The President of Genosha announces on TV that they plan to execute the captured X-Men.
- X-Factor, Cable, Cannonball, Sunspot and the remaining X-Men meet with Val Cooper.
- Arriving at Genosha they are ambushed by a Magistrates led by Havok.
- Uncanny X-Men #271
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 4
- Rictor and Boom Boom being pursued by Magistrates are saved by Jubilee, Wolverine and Psylocke
- Dr. Moreau debates Moira MacTaggert on television
- Storm is recaptured and brainwashed.
- Wolverine and Psylocke attempt to rescue her only to be confronted by Havok and defeated by Cameron Hodge.
- New Mutants #96
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 5
- Moreau brainwashes Rahne
- Jean Grey, Cable, Forge, Gambit and Sunspot break into the Citadel but are captured
- X-Factor # 61
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 6
- The remaining X-Men infiltrate the Citadel but are also captured
- Havok regains his memories
- Uncanny X-Men #272
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 7
- The captured X-Men are put on trial
- New Mutants #97
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 8
- The X-men team up with the Genegineer against Cameron Hodge.
- Storm is restored to adulthood
- Dr. Moreau is killed
- X-Factor # 62
- X-Tinction Agenda Part 9
- The Magistrates turn against their President
- Cyclops and Havok defeat Cameron Hodge
- The X-Men hold a funeral for Warlock spreading his remains on Douglas Ramsey's grave.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 18:05:28 GMT -5
My first read of the month was a disappointment.
Transmetropolitan #1.
Within the first two panels or so I say "Oh, it's Hunter Thompson"
A bit heavy handed to me.
It also seemed they took the most superficial elements of Hunter (He's crazy, likes drugs and guns, writes about politics) and left out everything else. I think Doonesbury had a better Hunter homage.
And the art was annoying. I can read a comic with bad art, but this was the kind that reminded me of terrible 90's Malibu superhero comics. I don't think I like very many comics from people who come from a superhero pedigree even when they leave the superheroes behind. They bring too many of the tropes with them. The cape is gone, everything else is the same.
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