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Post by Farrar on Jan 7, 2016 12:23:30 GMT -5
Doom Patrol 104 ![](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120928015951/marvel_dc/images/thumb/d/d8/Doom_Patrol_Vol_1_104.jpg/500px-Doom_Patrol_Vol_1_104.jpg) Nice review, thanks. What a great cover--I especially love that glimpse of Robotman in formal attire at the bottom right I'd never read any Doom Patrol stories until a few years ago when I picked up the Showcase DP volumes that collected the Silver Age issues. Great stories! As has been often noted, the Silver Age Doom Patrol had a Marvelesque feel to it that personality was emphasized instead of cookie-cutter superhero actvities. Like the FF and other Marvel teams, the DP characters bickered. Elasti-Girl had the most physical strength, instead of the then-typical pose and point powers most superheroines had. And there was change and subplots that took place over several issues--Rita's involvement with and eventual marriage to Mento, for example. All in all, an interesting and absorbing series.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 7, 2016 12:41:53 GMT -5
Mostly been power reading through Cap's run in Tales Of Suspense and his own title, I'm up to #134 so far. Don't really have much to comment on, all of it's been fairly solid and enjoyable, though Cap's constant yearnings for Sharon have started becoming a bit grating to the point where he almost seems totally out of character I started reading the Captain America portions of Tales of Suspense last weekend in advance of starting a review thread in the very near future. I'd be interested in getting your input on the books and reviews as I get them posted.
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Post by MDG on Jan 7, 2016 12:48:35 GMT -5
I read a bit from my Creepy Presents Steve Ditko book last night. And the stories I read were quite great. I think most of the stories were written by Archie Goodwin, and of course all of them were illustrated by Ditko. Perfect team, imo, for those types of stories. Arguably Ditko's best work.
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Post by Spike-X on Jan 8, 2016 5:33:05 GMT -5
Mostly been power reading through Cap's run in Tales Of Suspense and his own title, I'm up to #134 so far. Don't really have much to comment on, all of it's been fairly solid and enjoyable, though Cap's constant yearnings for Sharon have started becoming a bit grating to the point where he almost seems totally out of character Is it as bad as his guilt over Bucky's death? I haven't read a TON of Cap, but my son is a HUGE Cap fan, and he always shows me the various and multiple places where Cap cries over Bucky. That would start to get annoying. From what I've seen of Captain America: White*, you might wanna give that one a miss. *not the most well thought-out title, especially given the current status quo in the Cap-verse
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Post by Spike-X on Jan 8, 2016 5:34:36 GMT -5
Doom Patrol 104 ![](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120928015951/marvel_dc/images/thumb/d/d8/Doom_Patrol_Vol_1_104.jpg/500px-Doom_Patrol_Vol_1_104.jpg) Thanks so much for this. That was hilarious. It sounds like vintage GO-GO CHECKS comic-bookery. Glad you enjoyed it. I probably had more fun writing the review than I had reading the comic.
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Post by Spike-X on Jan 8, 2016 5:36:30 GMT -5
I read a bit from my Creepy Presents Steve Ditko book last night. And the stories I read were quite great. I think most of the stories were written by Archie Goodwin, and of course all of them were illustrated by Ditko. Perfect team, imo, for those types of stories. Arguably Ditko's best work. I'm not gonna argue.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 8, 2016 21:52:12 GMT -5
I read a bit from my Creepy Presents Steve Ditko book last night. And the stories I read were quite great. I think most of the stories were written by Archie Goodwin, and of course all of them were illustrated by Ditko. Perfect team, imo, for those types of stories. I've read very little (if any) of Goodwin and Ditko's work together, but it certainly sounds like a dream team.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 7:35:46 GMT -5
I read a bit from my Creepy Presents Steve Ditko book last night. And the stories I read were quite great. I think most of the stories were written by Archie Goodwin, and of course all of them were illustrated by Ditko. Perfect team, imo, for those types of stories. Arguably Ditko's best work. It's just great. The stories are short but effective. I especially like "The Collector" (I think it's called that, I don't have my book in front of me). That, to me, is the perfect example of Steve Ditko's art telling the story better than the writer did. But I'm not far into the book yet. I worked so much yesterday, I did not have time to read.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 7:37:26 GMT -5
I read a bit from my Creepy Presents Steve Ditko book last night. And the stories I read were quite great. I think most of the stories were written by Archie Goodwin, and of course all of them were illustrated by Ditko. Perfect team, imo, for those types of stories. I've read very little (if any) of Goodwin and Ditko's work together, but it certainly sounds like a dream team. If you can find the book local to you, you really should pick it up (Creepy Presents Steve Ditko). I know that here, I purchased the book for $10. So, it's a hardcover book, with fantastic art and stories within, for surprisingly little amount of money. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Hoosier X on Jan 10, 2016 17:53:36 GMT -5
![action296](http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/47/d3/02/47d3022e0a3c38a7cc5a9db0e580a513.jpg) I read Action Comics #296 a few days ago. The cover is awesome. The story inside would probably be a little more satisfying if you weren't expecting the scene on the cover. It doesn't happen. Yes, Superman does have an ant head for a while. Plotwise, I'm guessing one of the writers saw a double feature of Them! and The Day the Earth Stood Still a few days before a story conference with Weisinger. When Mort didn't like any of his ideas, he yelled at the writer and said they were even worse than something that Jerry Siegel would write. The writer stuttered and stammered and came up with a plot combining the two movies from the double feature he had seen a few days ago. Mort didn't like that either. So he suggested a story idea that Jerry Siegel had given him the day before, just before Mort had yelled at him and called him stupid. The first writer's original ideas were given to Jerry Siegel. The real highlight of this issue is the Supergirl story. It features Lena Thorul! I don't know if she ever appeared often enough to be considered a supporting character but I've seen a few of her stories here and there. Lena Thorul is Lex Luthor's little sister! But she doesn't know it! She was very very young when Lex began his crime career and the family changed the last name. (And when you want to disassociate yourself from your old name, you always use an anagram of the old name so no one will ever suspect.) Also, Lena is psychic. And also, she apparently looks exactly like Supergirl! There's a costume party and Linda Danvers (Supergirl) goes as Pocahontas. And Lena Thorul goes as Supergirl! And everybody notices that she looks exactly like Supergirl! After an incredible string of coincidences, Dick Malverne (the male Lana Lang) thinks that Lena is Supergirl. And every time he comes up with a scheme to prove it, another string of incredible coincidence strengthens his suspicions. Finally he pesters Lena until she says "Yes, I'm Supergirl" just to make him shut his fat stupid face. Linda is several miles away listening with her super-hearing. So even though she's eavesdropping, she thinks Lena has a lot of nerve to say she's Supergirl. Geez Louise, Linda! Get off your high horse! And it ends there. I'm not sure if the editors totally forgot this story or if it was an ongoing storyline for a few issues. I love Silver Age Supergirl so much! That Jim Mooney art! And I want to see somebody punch Dick Malverne in his fat stupid face. You're too good for him, Linda! (No wonder she had a crush on the Super-Horse.)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 11, 2016 21:39:03 GMT -5
So... changing the channel a bit.
I was reading some Bomber Jacket Avengers this week...I just finished the Gatherers story. Did someone change their mind about something at the last minute? The letter Columns in the last couple bascially said the entire roster was going to change... then two issues later, they said it wasn't.... but it really does, as Black Knight and Sersi go on siesta.
Then there's the Giant Man mini series that (AFAIK) never happens... I'm not sure if those backups were it, or a part, or what.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 23:08:37 GMT -5
So... changing the channel a bit. I was reading some Bomber Jacket Avengers this week...I just finished the Gatherers story. Did someone change their mind about something at the last minute? The letter Columns in the last couple bascially said the entire roster was going to change... then two issues later, they said it wasn't.... but it really does, as Black Knight and Sersi go on siesta. Then there's the Giant Man mini series that (AFAIK) never happens... I'm not sure if those backups were it, or a part, or what. It was meant to be a standalone book at one point but then it got shifted to the backside of the flipbooks for 4 issues of Avengers. You could buy those issues of Avengers without the flipbook too, but not the Giant Man stories without the Avengers book. -M
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Post by realjla on Jan 11, 2016 23:51:36 GMT -5
I re-visited the second (1981) Superman/Spider-Man team-up.Written by Jim Shooter, art by John Buscema and Joe Sinnott, with about a million people pitching in on inks. I found it slightly above-average compared to a lot of 'Big Two' fare of that era, but it's definitely inferior to the original.(I can't even call it the 'Superman II' of company crossovers, since that movie was the better 'sequel' that cane out in '81.) The plot is so-so, mostly because Shooter was the last-ditch choice to write the story, and he shows he doesn't have much a feel for either character. This might fit the 'office politics/changed storylines' thread. Supposedly, Marv Wolfman was the original choice, but when he moved to DC, Marvel kept things 'in house'. Shooter plays up the 'Peter Parker is a loser' angle that persisted through the first quarter-century of Spider-Man, but seems to think that ESU student Pete is still a high-schooler. Down in the dumps because Jonah and some random college girl never seen before or since were mean to him, Peter(assigned by JJJ to photograph the Hulk in Metropolis) has better luck at the Daily Planet, and stays a while. Clark, meanwhile, takes a 'leave of absence' and moves his base of operations to New York and the Bugle. In Shooter's New York, half the people are stereotypically blase about a 'not one of their own' crimefighter, while the rest act like they never heard of him. Basically, Shooter emasculates the two biggest names in comics, perhaps as an egotistical/control freak move. At least the art was the saving grace.
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Post by JKCarrier on Jan 12, 2016 0:59:48 GMT -5
Basically, Shooter emasculates the two biggest names in comics, perhaps as an egotistical/control freak move. At least the art was the saving grace. On the other hand, Superman barely breaks a sweat fighting the Hulk. And Wonder Woman can't lay a hand on Spidey (that one was a little harder to swallow). And Shooter writes a really good Dr. Doom, so those parts of the book are fun.
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Post by realjla on Jan 12, 2016 1:50:03 GMT -5
Well, Superman DID get knocked 'across the river'(Gotham City? Jersey City?) before he learned how to take a punch. Still, it's more plausible than "Batman knocks the wind out of the Hulk". And "Stupid Cape-Man!" is among Greenskin's better 'simplified' names for the 'super puny humans' who keep bothering him.
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