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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 29, 2017 12:50:46 GMT -5
NOW comics' "The Original Astro Boy" Really kind of an odd duck as it's a purely original work an not merely a reprint of the Tezuka manga. It follows the 60's American dub of the show fairly closely, but also comes up with it's own ideas (like Dr. Boyton creating Astor/Astro from funds provided by the military for a "weaponized prototype'). The art style is also kind of interesting as it's something of a blend of Tezuka with more American sensibilities thrown it. It's also kid friendly, which is nice. I don't think you could really do a "dark" interpretation of the property without it turning into something like Urasawa's "Pluto"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 14:08:44 GMT -5
I've decided to read The Clone Saga. A lot of the complaints seem to be centered around past events not making sense in light of developments in the story, so I'm curious how it'll seem to me since I've read an embarrassingly small amount of Spider-Man.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2017 14:26:19 GMT -5
JLA #140 and #149, both of which arrived today courtesy of ebay. I'm gradually building my collection of classic JLA; just 22 issues to go, including the first six (which I'll probably never get, but still).
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 31, 2017 14:29:40 GMT -5
JLA #140 and #149, both of which arrived today courtesy of ebay. I'm gradually building my collection of classic JLA; just 22 issues to go, including the first six (which I'll probably never get, but still). Wow, congratulations! That is an impressive achievement.
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Post by The Cheat on Jan 31, 2017 16:01:10 GMT -5
I've decided to read The Clone Saga. A lot of the complaints seem to be centered around past events not making sense in light of developments in the story, so I'm curious how it'll seem to me since I've read an embarrassingly small amount of Spider-Man. The original or the 90s version?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:45:50 GMT -5
90s
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Post by Confessor on Jan 31, 2017 21:08:34 GMT -5
I've decided to read The Clone Saga. A lot of the complaints seem to be centered around past events not making sense in light of developments in the story, so I'm curious how it'll seem to me since I've read an embarrassingly small amount of Spider-Man. I really like the original Clone Saga and the second one from the '90s is a guilty pleasure of mine. The latter is a huge, sprawling mess, mind you, but I like it all the same. I mean, I can see it's shortcomings and all, but...I dunno. I like it just the same.
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Post by bor on Feb 1, 2017 4:53:29 GMT -5
As someone who started reading Spider-man monthly at this point I have very good memories of this even if most of it was quite frankly terrible. There are some highlights but darn it there are some extreme low points to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 10:59:06 GMT -5
As someone who started reading Spider-man monthly at this point I have very good memories of this even if most of it was quite frankly terrible. There are some highlights but darn it there are some extreme low points to. I never read the mid-90's Spidey-Clone Saga... as someone who did read it - knowing that I was a Spider-Man fan - told me it would spoil my enjoyment of Spidey, and it was "f***ing awful". So I heeded their advice. There was also too many Spider-Man titles to keep up with at that time, amogst other things in life. So I never got around to reading it. However, I have never felt that I missed out on anything by not reading them!
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 1, 2017 11:32:25 GMT -5
The most notable comics I read in the last few days: Bloodstone #1 to #4 (2001-2002) - I picked up this series for $1 each when I got back into comics in 2011. Definitely a guilty pleasure. She's the daughter of Ulysses Bloodstone and her helper is Frankenstein's monster. It's quite extravagantly silly, but in a very fun comic book way. The Amazing Spider-Man #44 (1966) - I read this online. It's one of the few Silver Age Spider-Man issues I haven't read. It's pretty great! You get to see Mary Jane's first meeting with Gwen, Harry and Flash! She walks into the diner where everybody is hanging out and Flash and Harry are like "Hubba hubba!" And Peter says "Hi, Mary Jane" and they're like "Puny Parker knows that hot tamale!?" And you should see the look on Gwen's face when Peter runs off with MJ to go see a band instead of studying physics homework with Gwen. And also, the start of the second storyline with the Lizard. It's pretty awesome! The Brave and the Bold #65 (1966) - From back in the days when The Brave and the Bold featured random team-ups instead of just Batman and Guest Star, we get the Flash and the Doom Patrol. I've been a little curious about the Doom Patrol for decades, but I've never read very many of their appearances. The new Doom Patrol series (up to #4 now) has been fun, and I've ordered a few issues of Doom Patrol from eBay. But I was also reminded that years and years ago, I bought a really beat-up copy of B & B #65 and I hadn't read it in a while. So I pulled it out and it's so crazy! The Flash, Robotmman Cliff Steele. Negative Man, the Chief, Elastigirl! I love Cliff Steele and Rita Farr. I don't know why. I don't usually get so attached to characters I've only read in a few comics. And the villains! What a bunch of nuts! General Immortus, Monsieur Mallah, the Brain and Madame Rouge! The art is great. I ordered a few issues of Doom Patrol from the spectrum of their appearances, from a couple of Silver Age appearances, to the Showcase three-parter, to a few issues of the series from the late 1980s and early 1990s. I was bidding on some of them, and I kind of lost track on whether I ended up with any of the Grant Morrison issues. But those probably work better in TPBs anyway. I have a question for the hardcore Doom Patrol fans. Why isn't Rita Farr in any of the later incarnations of the Doom Patrol? (Or maybe she is, but I haven't seen her.) She has not been in any issue of the current series.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 1, 2017 12:55:29 GMT -5
I've decided to read The Clone Saga. A lot of the complaints seem to be centered around past events not making sense in light of developments in the story, so I'm curious how it'll seem to me since I've read an embarrassingly small amount of Spider-Man. I really like the original Clone Saga and the second one from the '90s is a guilty pleasure of mine. The latter is a huge, sprawling mess, mind you, but I like it all the same. I mean, I can see it's shortcomings and all, but...I dunno. I like it just the same. This would be my memories of the Clone Saga as well. Unlike Age of Apocalypse, at the same time, it didn't seem to have a plan. From the start AoA was seven X-titles for the length of four issues (well two for X-Men Unlimited) and a few one shots, so you kind of knew what you were getting into. Granted you might not know which titles were the most pertinent, but at least knew the extent of the story line. Whereas the Clone Saga never seemed to end, and just kept stringing you along, with story arc after story arc. I gave up after Exiled, but I was even spotty with buying issues before that. I ended up trading all but a handful of the titles. But once and a while I get nostalgic to read it again. But only, if I might get a TPB on lone or from the library. Hell, even the Omnibus which covers it extensively is $125 MSRP or the two TPB with less content $30 each. I took the time to look at Lone Star a bit on these, and the Web of Spiderman issues are selling for high. Not sure what Lone Star might be giving for trade/cash. And of course Amazing Spiderman #400, which was one of the few issues I did keep. That's a good issue even if the rest of the Clone Saga was meh. Maybe if I hit the jackpot finding some in dollar bins, I might invest more into getting them back. But the nostalgia part of it wouldn't be satisfied with reprints, so I know I'd want to get the single issues back. Thankfully, I am sure there is no shortage of issues, so I've got plenty of time to scratch my itch, if I want to do so. And Scarlet Spider's costume was awesome. Soooo 90's, but still cool as hell. :-)
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Post by dbutler69 on Feb 1, 2017 14:55:48 GMT -5
The Brave and the Bold #65 (1966) - From back in the days when The Brave and the Bold featured random team-ups instead of just Batman and Guest Star, we get the Flash and the Doom Patrol. I've been a little curious about the Doom Patrol for decades, but I've never read very many of their appearances. The new Doom Patrol series (up to #4 now) has been fun, and I've ordered a few issues of Doom Patrol from eBay. But I was also reminded that years and years ago, I bought a really beat-up copy of B & B #65 and I hadn't read it in a while. So I pulled it out and it's so crazy! The Flash, Robotmman Cliff Steele. Negative Man, the Chief, Elastigirl! I love Cliff Steele and Rita Farr. I don't know why. I don't usually get so attached to characters I've only read in a few comics. And the villains! What a bunch of nuts! General Immortus, Monsieur Mallah, the Brain and Madame Rouge! The art is great. I ordered a few issues of Doom Patrol from the spectrum of their appearances, from a couple of Silver Age appearances, to the Showcase three-parter, to a few issues of the series from the late 1980s and early 1990s. I was bidding on some of them, and I kind of lost track on whether I ended up with any of the Grant Morrison issues. But those probably work better in TPBs anyway. I have a question for the hardcore Doom Patrol fans. Why isn't Rita Farr in any of the later incarnations of the Doom Patrol? (Or maybe she is, but I haven't seen her.) She has not been in any issue of the current series. Hey, I've always been curious about the Doom Patrol too! I get the impression it's one of the better DC Silver Age comics out there, but most of what I know is from the New Teen Titans storyline in the early 80's.
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Post by The Cheat on Feb 1, 2017 16:10:30 GMT -5
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Post by Confessor on Feb 1, 2017 17:43:51 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a great site if you're interested in the '90s Clone Saga. I once read it all the way through a good few years back.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 1, 2017 18:31:06 GMT -5
Ash #4-6, Zero
As with the first three I read earlier, this is probably the first time since I bought these off the shelves, that I have read them. Continuing from #3, Ash starts finding more about these powers and this thing that is controlling him. Most of the issues, actually deal with Ash in his private life, with #5 introducing a new player. However all three issues center around Ash, and the angel Gabriel that we got a cameo at the end of #3.
Overall, I am less impressed with Quesada's art as I was when I bought these. And much of the reason I did after seeing Batman Sword of Azrael when reading Knightsend around the same time. Which I still contend is Quesada's best artistic endevour. But overall they really scream the 90's. And the story of Ash and the other players in this story, I think took too long to be explained (which are in Ash Zero which was published after) and I'm starting to loose interest in going on with the rest of what was published. In hindsight, it's like watching the Star Wars prequels and realizing Lucas really didn't have $hit in mind when he made the first movie, as far as anything outside that first movie. After reading Zero, none of the previous stuff really seems to have lead to the big reveal. I mean on the surface it's fine, and it's just a comic. But it's superficial and seems like a last minute idea to tack on to keep the title going.
That said, I really liked Zero even if it were just some stand alone story someone wrote. Or the first issue of some title that never made it past that like Atlas' titles. Quesada seemed better on his game with the story, and this should have been #0 as in printed before #1 and the following issues play of it. But that wasn't the case.
Still I have three mini series and two one-shots left of what was published of Ash, so as of now, I think I will continue on out of curiosity more than anything. To see if Zero's events start playing out more in the following issues. And since I have hardly any recollection, maybe Quesada started coming into his own with the next two titles. He wrote the crossover with DC's Azrael and then one other mini. Then Mark Waid did one and James Robinson if I remember right. So, who knows, maybe I'll be more impressed with those.
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