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Post by tingramretro on Apr 6, 2017 15:15:38 GMT -5
The Special Executive...or at least, some of them...first appeared in the second and third parts of the Star Death trilogy, an intermittent series of back-up strips about the early days of the Time Lords of Gallifrey in Doctor Who Monthly in 1981, created by Alan Moore and David Lloyd. Of the later group, only Wardog, Cobweb and Zeitgeist appear, Wardog debuting in DWM #51 (in which he loses his left arm) and the others in #57. They are identified as parahuman agents of the Time Lords. Later, in the Captain Britain series, Wardog mentions their having worked for time travellers. This, plus the fact that one of the forms that Merlin briefly adopts in A Rag, a Bone, a Hank of Hair is the form of the Merlin encountered twice by the Doctor in DWM seems to indicate that they exist in the same multiverse. When Alan Moore fell out with Marvel over the Marvelman situation and denied them the right to reprint his work, he also forbade them from using the three Special Executive characters he and Lloyd originally co-created, forcing Alan Davis and Jamie Delano to create the Technet instead, essentially the same group minus Wardog, Cobweb and Zeitgeist. Fascinating. I had no idea. It's kind of my specialist subject...
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Post by Confessor on Apr 6, 2017 16:41:43 GMT -5
Fascinating. I had no idea. It's kind of my specialist subject... And how lucky we are that folks here have such specialist knowledge to share with us all.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 7, 2017 8:23:02 GMT -5
I crushed 8 issues last night and finished Steve Englehart's Captain America run.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 7, 2017 8:26:14 GMT -5
It's kind of my specialist subject... And how lucky we are that folks here have such specialist knowledge to share with us all. Just for the sake of it, here's Wardog as drawn by David Lloyd in his first appearance... ...and a centrespread poster of the Special Executive from The Daredevils.
Marvel actually promoted the characters quite heavily for a few months, evidently hoping they'd take off in a big way (they reprinted the DWM stories in The Daredevils alongside their new appearances, and the group also appeared with Daredevil, Captain Britain and Night Raven on a promotional poster for the magazine) but they then rather shot themselves in the foot by alienating the Grand Wizard of Northampton...
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 7, 2017 9:41:49 GMT -5
I crushed 8 issues last night and finished Steve Englehart's Captain America run. Did you stand them on end to crush them? What did you crush them with...a rock...a brick? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 7, 2017 9:46:20 GMT -5
I crushed 8 issues last night and finished Steve Englehart's Captain America run. Did you stand them on end to crush them? What did you crush them with...a rock...a brick? Inquiring minds want to know. A large bowl of pudding and six bunches of bananas.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Apr 7, 2017 9:58:06 GMT -5
Did you stand them on end to crush them? What did you crush them with...a rock...a brick? Inquiring minds want to know. A large bowl of pudding and six bunches of bananas. I heard that. And I thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 22:38:58 GMT -5
Shado: Song of the DragonBy Mike Grell, Michael David Lawrence, and Grey Morrow I still need to read this. Somehow I missed buying these when I completed my Mike Grell Green Arrow run. Next time I place an online order I'm definitely getting these books. Beautiful art.
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Post by badwolf on Apr 8, 2017 17:08:21 GMT -5
In preparation for the movie, am reading the Wonder Woman omnibus by George Perez.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 8, 2017 19:33:26 GMT -5
Hoo boy, been reading more late silver/early bronze age Aquaman and geeze, here I thought that nothing could top "The Search For Mera". But then there was wonderfully bizarre Aquaman/Deadman crossover that seemed almost Doctor Strange like and what I'm up to now, the introduction of Thanatos. Story-wise, it's kind of all over the place, but still feels grounded (?). Also loved the little cameo of Hitchcock
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Post by urrutiap on Apr 8, 2017 22:33:36 GMT -5
Pretty much all night tonight I've been reading the Dark Pheonix stuff in original Uncanny X Men.
I'm still in the middle of issue 137 and they weren't lying about issue 137 being double sized
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Post by cellardweller on Apr 9, 2017 0:32:45 GMT -5
I've decided to give this run another read through, I'm up to issue #8.
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Post by String on Apr 9, 2017 19:55:31 GMT -5
I was re-reading over Bryne's early issues on his FF run and #233 always struck me as odd. A solo story focused on Johnny, he's approached by a priest who has a dying request from an old schoolmate- clear his name of the murder for which he is being executed. After some investigating (and crafty thinking by young Johnny), he learns the murder was orchestrated by Hammerhead of Maggia. After an intense fight, Hammerhead escapes but Johnny clears the guy of the murder which he hopes will appease the guy's mother, but it doesn't for she knew that her son was a criminal all along. First off, judging by the flashbacks, this guy was more along the lines of a bully or at least an annoyance for Johnny in high school. Second, even if he was a bully, Johnny barely flinches when the priest tells him that he was executed for murder. I guess Johnny is okay with the death penalty. Third, in his dialogue in the beginning as he is awaiting his time to die, the guy clearly states that while he didn't commit the murder for which he is being executed, he has murdered others. Wait, what?? Maybe I've watched too much Law & Order and Discovery ID. But the guy sees this as justice of some form for his actual crimes of which apparently he's never been tried and convicted. So why not confess then before it's too late? Offer closure to the families of the victims that you did apparently murder instead of puling over the one crime that you didn't. Fourth, the mother's reaction. The guy wanted his name cleared for her sake, that's whom Johnny wanted to help but instead, she knew full well that her son was good for nothing and so was not surprised to learn that he was connected to a murder even if he was framed for it. I don't know, it's just a sad strange Done-in-One story even if Johnny shined somewhat through his investigative thinking and use of powers.
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Apr 9, 2017 19:59:38 GMT -5
I'm continuing with my re-read of Frank Miller's Daredevil. The issue with Foggy Nelson pretending to be a tough gangster is a lot of fun. "Don't mess with Guts Nelson!"
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 9, 2017 20:21:55 GMT -5
I was re-reading over Bryne's early issues on his FF run and #233 always struck me as odd. A solo story focused on Johnny, he's approached by a priest who has a dying request from an old schoolmate- clear his name of the murder for which he is being executed. After some investigating (and crafty thinking by young Johnny), he learns the murder was orchestrated by Hammerhead of Maggia. After an intense fight, Hammerhead escapes but Johnny clears the guy of the murder which he hopes will appease the guy's mother, but it doesn't for she knew that her son was a criminal all along. First off, judging by the flashbacks, this guy was more along the lines of a bully or at least an annoyance for Johnny in high school. Second, even if he was a bully, Johnny barely flinches when the priest tells him that he was executed for murder. I guess Johnny is okay with the death penalty. Third, in his dialogue in the beginning as he is awaiting his time to die, the guy clearly states that while he didn't commit the murder for which he is being executed, he has murdered others. Wait, what?? Maybe I've watched too much Law & Order and Discovery ID. But the guy sees this as justice of some form for his actual crimes of which apparently he's never been tried and convicted. So why not confess then before it's too late? Offer closure to the families of the victims that you did apparently murder instead of puling over the one crime that you didn't. Fourth, the mother's reaction. The guy wanted his name cleared for her sake, that's whom Johnny wanted to help but instead, she knew full well that her son was good for nothing and so was not surprised to learn that he was connected to a murder even if he was framed for it. I don't know, it's just a sad strange Done-in-One story even if Johnny shined somewhat through his investigative thinking and use of powers. I always found that odd that Johnny Storm could figure ANYTHING out. He's always been written as an airhead.
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