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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 10, 2017 1:56:11 GMT -5
I read this for the first time in 20 years: I got it in VG/F for like three dollars in the late 1970s. (And I had #5 in VG for eight dollars!) I'd forgotten how great #14 is! Awesome!
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Post by String on Apr 10, 2017 16:26:58 GMT -5
I read this for the first time in 20 years: I got it in VG/F for like three dollars in the late 1970s. (And I had #5 in VG for eight dollars!) I'd forgotten how great #14 is! Awesome! Writer Beau Smith used to have a column in CBG and in one instance, he extolled on the fun of Sgt. Fury #48:
His review and memories of the issue were so exciting, it convinced me to seek it out to read for myself. (One of the few Howling Commandos issues that I do own). And he was right, sheer cover-to-cover booming action and fun.
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Post by String on Apr 10, 2017 16:47:30 GMT -5
I was re-reading over Bryne's early issues on his FF run and #233 always struck me as odd. A solo story focused on Johnny, he's approached by a priest who has a dying request from an old schoolmate- clear his name of the murder for which he is being executed. After some investigating (and crafty thinking by young Johnny), he learns the murder was orchestrated by Hammerhead of Maggia. After an intense fight, Hammerhead escapes but Johnny clears the guy of the murder which he hopes will appease the guy's mother, but it doesn't for she knew that her son was a criminal all along. First off, judging by the flashbacks, this guy was more along the lines of a bully or at least an annoyance for Johnny in high school. Second, even if he was a bully, Johnny barely flinches when the priest tells him that he was executed for murder. I guess Johnny is okay with the death penalty. Third, in his dialogue in the beginning as he is awaiting his time to die, the guy clearly states that while he didn't commit the murder for which he is being executed, he has murdered others. Wait, what?? Maybe I've watched too much Law & Order and Discovery ID. But the guy sees this as justice of some form for his actual crimes of which apparently he's never been tried and convicted. So why not confess then before it's too late? Offer closure to the families of the victims that you did apparently murder instead of puling over the one crime that you didn't. Fourth, the mother's reaction. The guy wanted his name cleared for her sake, that's whom Johnny wanted to help but instead, she knew full well that her son was good for nothing and so was not surprised to learn that he was connected to a murder even if he was framed for it. I don't know, it's just a sad strange Done-in-One story even if Johnny shined somewhat through his investigative thinking and use of powers. I always found that odd that Johnny Storm could figure ANYTHING out. He's always been written as an airhead. Well maybe it's an act he just keeps up in front of his sister and her oh-so-smart husband. Here, he did rather well on his own and was sneaky in his own right. But what's even weirder, the following issue: Ego the Living Planet is searching for Galactus and in his quest, he comes to Earth. Ego's scanning of Earth (involving gravity waves or something) wreaks havoc on the planet, causing major devastation to NYC, Moscow, and Paris in particular. Having discovered the source is from space, Reed leads the FF into the great beyond to confront this new threat. Meanwhile, 'Skip' Collins, a mild-mannered blue-collar worker, is in NYC on a business trip and ends up trailing Reed and Sue before this chaos when he spots them on the street. It also turns out that 'Skip' is a highly powerful individual, able to affect reality and matter on a large scale based on his simple whims. (A power gained in *some* fashion by his being part of atomic tests while in the Army years ago, I dunno, it's kinda iffy). Anyway, when he sees the FF blast off for space, he's distraught over the destruction and wishes it never happened. As such, his power kicks in and restores the damage across the world, perfectly fixing NYC, Moscow, and Paris. This apparently also exhausted his power, never to use again. So I don't know if that means 'Skip' was a latent mutant or what. Maybe he should've been glad that the gov't was only testing atomic bombs and not gamma bombs. My bigger question, after facing Ego in #235, next comes the 20th anniversary issue #236 and their abduction by Doom. So it's basically two weeks later in #237 when we see the FF back in NYC. And no one, not even Reed, questions or offers some comments on how NYC was restored so well or so quickly. Don't loopholes drive you loopy too? Hahaha
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 10, 2017 17:44:10 GMT -5
I always found that odd that Johnny Storm could figure ANYTHING out. He's always been written as an airhead. Well maybe it's an act he just keeps up in front of his sister and her oh-so-smart husband. Here, he did rather well on his own and was sneaky in his own right. But what's even weirder, the following issue: Ego the Living Planet is searching for Galactus and in his quest, he comes to Earth. Ego's scanning of Earth (involving gravity waves or something) wreaks havoc on the planet, causing major devastation to NYC, Moscow, and Paris in particular. Having discovered the source is from space, Reed leads the FF into the great beyond to confront this new threat. Meanwhile, 'Skip' Collins, a mild-mannered blue-collar worker, is in NYC on a business trip and ends up trailing Reed and Sue before this chaos when he spots them on the street. It also turns out that 'Skip' is a highly powerful individual, able to affect reality and matter on a large scale based on his simple whims. (A power gained in *some* fashion by his being part of atomic tests while in the Army years ago, I dunno, it's kinda iffy). Anyway, when he sees the FF blast off for space, he's distraught over the destruction and wishes it never happened. As such, his power kicks in and restores the damage across the world, perfectly fixing NYC, Moscow, and Paris. This apparently also exhausted his power, never to use again. So I don't know if that means 'Skip' was a latent mutant or what. Maybe he should've been glad that the gov't was only testing atomic bombs and not gamma bombs. My bigger question, after facing Ego in #235, next comes the 20th anniversary issue #236 and their abduction by Doom. So it's basically two weeks later in #237 when we see the FF back in NYC. And no one, not even Reed, questions or offers some comments on how NYC was restored so well or so quickly. Don't loopholes drive you loopy too? Hahaha I remember reading that Byrne considered the story as not his best effort because readers were confused and thought that Skip had caused the damage to the world.
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Post by kirby101 on Apr 12, 2017 21:53:45 GMT -5
Silver Surfer #1 by Buscema and Lee. Kirby hated making him a man turned into a super being. Wanted him to be a unique character. As a kid I loved the hippie angst of it all. And Buscema out did himself. I was surprised at how early this issue came out. Giving the wonderful art, I always thought this was a little ore mature Buscema, post Vision. But it was around Avengers #43, making Big Johns work all the more impressive.
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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 13, 2017 8:19:59 GMT -5
FF #233 & 234 (along with #232) were probably the weakest of the whole Byrne run. Maybe he just needed a few issues to get going.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 14, 2017 16:45:03 GMT -5
FF# 234 had remarkably detailed artwork, though. I remembered being amazed that Byrne had time to draw all of that, especially since he was inking his own pencils. (But perhaps he went straight to ink for a lot of stuff).
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2017 19:37:12 GMT -5
FF# 234 had remarkably detailed artwork, though. I remembered being amazed that Byrne had time to draw all of that, especially since he was inking his own pencils. (But perhaps he went straight to ink for a lot of stuff). It looked like he inked it after minimal breakdowns.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2017 19:38:25 GMT -5
Silver Surfer #1 by Buscema and Lee. Kirby hated making him a man turned into a super being. Wanted him to be a unique character. As a kid I loved the hippie angst of it all. And Buscema out did himself. I was surprised at how early this issue came out. Giving the wonderful art, I always thought this was a little ore mature Buscema, post Vision. But it was around Avengers #43, making Big Johns work all the more impressive. I know John didn't think much of him , but I like Sinnotts inks on his pencils best.
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Post by kirby101 on Apr 14, 2017 21:01:43 GMT -5
Silver Surfer #1 by Buscema and Lee. Kirby hated making him a man turned into a super being. Wanted him to be a unique character. As a kid I loved the hippie angst of it all. And Buscema out did himself. I was surprised at how early this issue came out. Giving the wonderful art, I always thought this was a little ore mature Buscema, post Vision. But it was around Avengers #43, making Big Johns work all the more impressive. I know John didn't think much of him , but I like Sinnotts inks on his pencils best. Sinnott made everyone look great (especially Kirby). His inks on J B on the FF couldn't be beat. Buscema didn't like anyone's inks but his own. He tolerated his brother Sal's.
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Post by cellardweller on Apr 15, 2017 0:10:05 GMT -5
I'm reading New Teen Titans, but it's confusing. First there was The New Teen Titans, and another volume of The New Teen Titans, and Tales of the Teen Titans, and then (I think) The Titans.
I seem to be reading them in order.....lol
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Post by MDG on Apr 15, 2017 8:54:26 GMT -5
I know John didn't think much of him , but I like Sinnotts inks on his pencils best. Sinnott made everyone look great (especially Kirby). His inks on J B on the FF couldn't be beat. Buscema didn't like anyone's inks but his own. He tolerated his brother Sal's. I think Stan liked using Sinnott to maintain a "house look," especially on flagship titles. And he was able to "slickify" Kirby without losing what made Kirby unique. Buscema seems to have liked a "rougher" style, maybe to maintain spontaneity. A lot of people love Alacala's inks on JB, but that was probably antithetical to what he really wanted. Too fussy.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 15, 2017 9:13:28 GMT -5
I know John didn't think much of him , but I like Sinnotts inks on his pencils best. Sinnott made everyone look great (especially Kirby). His inks on J B on the FF couldn't be beat. Buscema didn't like anyone's inks but his own. He tolerated his brother Sal's. He also said he liked Tom Palmer's inking, even if as far as I'm concerned Tom didn't ink like John at all!
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 15, 2017 10:08:24 GMT -5
Sinnott made everyone look great (especially Kirby). His inks on J B on the FF couldn't be beat. Buscema didn't like anyone's inks but his own. He tolerated his brother Sal's. He also said he liked Tom Palmer's inking, even if as far as I'm concerned Tom didn't ink like John at all! Is that true? Palmer didn't like J Buscema ?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 15, 2017 10:32:08 GMT -5
He also said he liked Tom Palmer's inking, even if as far as I'm concerned Tom didn't ink like John at all! Is that true? Palmer didn't like J Buscema ? Palmer did not ink John's pencils like John did. (I would assume he did like John's pencils, though).
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