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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 11, 2014 16:23:23 GMT -5
That's a legendary Legion story and Oliver Coipel is just getting into his style. DnA is a must buy for me. Even there not so hot stuff you can still see the good in it. The only thing of theirs that's just ok for me and not so hot is Resurrection Man. Ok, but I could live without it. I love Legion Lost so much. DnA and Coipel is a legendary team. Legion Lost is fantastic. To me, that was the last great Legion story. Nothing since then has been as good in my opinion, even the subsequent DnA run on the Legion.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 11, 2014 17:50:19 GMT -5
DnA in general are just awesome. I agree Legion Lost was a great story. The Waid Legion after is pretty decent, too, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 20:05:10 GMT -5
DnA in general are just awesome. I agree Legion Lost was a great story. The Waid Legion after is pretty decent, too, though. The Waid Legion was my introduction to the characters, I love his Brainiac 5
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 11, 2014 21:27:10 GMT -5
I love Legion Lost so much. DnA and Coipel is a legendary team. Legion Lost is fantastic. To me, that was the last great Legion story. Nothing since then has been as good in my opinion, even the subsequent DnA run on the Legion. I felt that the first nine or ten issues of the DnA Legion were better than Legion Lost. (The cut off issue would be the Timber Wolf/Phantom Girl issue with the baby, which was hilarious.) It was one of the last time I've actually been shocked by the developments in a comic book. Unforunately, the Robotica threat never really reached its potential, although the book was still good.
I liked a lot of Legion Worlds better than L Lost, too. Where else are you going to see Paul Rivoche and Enrique Breccia draw the Legion?
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Post by Confessor on Jul 14, 2014 5:49:17 GMT -5
I read Will Eisner's Dropsie Avenue for the first time a couple of days ago. I'd read A Contract with God and A Life Force a year or two ago, and I have to say that I thought this third installment of the so-called "Contract with God Trilogy" was the weakest. That said: it's still Will Eisner, so obviously the artwork was fantastic, the dialogue and characters beautifully observed, and the story simultaneously entertaining and quite moving. So, definitelty not a bad read by any stretch of the imagination, but I just felt that the previous two books in the series packed that little bit more of a punch.
I've also been loving Marvel's current republishing of Alan Moore's Miracleman. I'd never read it before and I'm blown away by how good it is. Every issue so far has had be saying out loud, "f**k me, this is great!" at some point while I'm reading it. Like Watchmen and V for Vendetta, it's truly something a bit special.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 10:18:25 GMT -5
It's at least a couple of years short of meeting the informal 10-year threshold, but god knows it's by no means a recent release, so I'll note here that I obtained & read 2/3rds of the 45th anniversary issue of the Fantastic Four, #543, a few days ago after being intrigued by references to it in my recently obtained copy of TwoMorrows' Modern Masters: Mike Allred. The truly ugly (because of the utterly repellent rendition of the Thing) cover, I suppose based on what must've been the then-current first FF movie, fortunately is more than offset by the first two stories, by Dwayne McDuffie/Mike McKone & Stan Lee/Nick Dragotta/Allred, which reminded me anew that straight superhero comics with tentpole characters can actually be charming when handled correctly.
The third story ... ugh. Couldn't read it. Couldn't read a word. I know Paul Pope has lots of fans, but I find his work so thoroughly revolting, not just here but everywhere I've ever encountered it, that I'm actually at a loss for words.
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Post by bashbash99 on Jul 18, 2014 11:46:07 GMT -5
1st by way of tying into the previous post, I would have to agree with Dan B that Paul Pope's art doesn't do much for me, tried a few issues of the 100% miniseries and never looked back. To each his own, though!
I finished up Legion Lost by DnA/Coipel. It was great!
While I was initially underwhelmed by Coipel's art, I warmed up to it significantly as the series went on. I also felt Pascal Alixe (whose name didn't ring any bells for me) did a nice job on artwork, filling in for Coipel.
I know this version of the league sort of has its own continuity going on (and will probably have to re-read Legion of Three Worlds to follow up on what happens to this group), but taking that as a given, I think DnA did a nice job on the characterizations of different league members and handled their interactions well. I really liked the way the plots of most of the earlier issues contributed to the finale. It helped that this volume could be read without needing to know a lot of prior material; I suppose it would help to know what the "blight" affecting a few characters was all about, I'm not sure what issues contain that storyline (haven't tried googling or anything though).
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At least a few of the plot twists caught me by surprise. Apparition being a mental construct of Saturn Girl caught me COMPLETELY off-guard. And I didn't suspect the Progenitor would turn out to be Element Lad until just a few pages before the actual reveal! Nicely done, DnA!
Element Lad's explanation of his villainous turn reminded me of Alan Moore's work, for some reason. I didn't expect Monstress to be completely disintegrated like that, I figured in the next issue it would be revealed that Element Lad would restore her into her pre-Monstress body. No dice, though!! Livewire's (presumed) sacrifice at the end was well-handled, although I'm sure writers could figure out a way to bring back both Monstress and Livewire if they felt like it.
END OF SPOILERS
I would say that I enjoyed the Great Darkness Saga more than this volume, but Legion Lost is a great LSH story. While I like some of Geoff John's work on LSH as well, this was better IMO. I haven't tried Waid's run, it seems to have a mixed reception so I'll see if I can get the 1st trade from the library before purchasing anything. I also plan to pick up the TPB of Levitz/Giffen's "The Curse" when it is released later this year!
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 18, 2014 12:17:27 GMT -5
I've also been loving Marvel's current republishing of Alan Moore's Miracleman. I'd never read it before and I'm blown away by how good it is. Every issue so far has had be saying out loud, "f**k me, this is great!" at some point while I'm reading it. Like Watchmen and V for Vendetta, it's truly something a bit special. And the new coloring is spectacular. Marvel really did a great job overall with this.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 18, 2014 12:26:48 GMT -5
I've been reading Vol.1 of Fantagraphics Prince Valiant collection. I haven't enjoyed reading comics as much as this in a very long time. I have of course read numerous Valiant strips over the years in the Sunday paper's, mostly as a kid, but getting to read it in chronological order, in such a gorgeous reproduction (from Foster's own engraver's proofs)is beyond a treat. I'm also surprised at how tight the plotting is and how it flows so beautifully from one episode to the next. Everyone knows that Foster was a brilliant illustrator, but I'm finding that he was also a great storyteller.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 18, 2014 12:31:19 GMT -5
Well, it's been a while since I read Transmet, but I definitely have fonder memories of it than that. It's quite clear AF! was an inspiration, certainly... the similarities are quite obvious. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying AF! was bad, it just... wasn't the best thing ever. I find that's often the case when reading 'classics'... in a lot of cases, things that come after it are able to build on and improve ground breaking ideas.... when you read the later ones first, the classics can pale in comparison. Fair enough, but even keeping that in mind I find Chaykin's writing much more mature, amusing and iconoclastic than Ellis's. Perhaps it's the age thing: the references to the soviet union and socialism in general strike a chord in me. I also read Transmet first... or at least I started. I lost interest pretty fast. I read the first two trades of American Flagg! not long ago. The first trade was fantastic, but there was surprising dip in quality after the first story arc in my eyes.
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Post by Jasoomian on Jul 18, 2014 18:08:40 GMT -5
Turok, Son of Stone #119(1978/79) In the first 11pp story, Turok and his buddy happen upon an old woman who is walking to her death because she feels she is too old and a burden for her tribe. turok eventually talks her and her tribe into the idea that maybe she should live a bit longer since she seems heatlhy and is capable of long walks after all. In the second 11pp story , Turok and his pal see a caveman tribe throw a trussed-up caveboy into the river for some minor infarction. Turok and his sidekick take theboy under their wing and teach him stuff like how to make fire. But the caveboy was actually the caveman chief's son on an undercover mission to find out stuff like how to make fire. But Turok had already figured this out, so he let the boy steal some stones that didn't work like flint to bring home. Turok laughs at the cavemen's stupidity, but at least he didn't violater the prime directive by helping them learn anything.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 19, 2014 5:43:44 GMT -5
And the new coloring is spectacular. Marvel really did a great job overall with this. I'm not familiar with the older colouring, being that this is the first time I've read the series. That said, I've often thought how good the colouring is in this book as I've read it. Sometimes colouring makes no impression on me at all, so the fact that I've noticed it -- in a postive way -- means it must be good. I agree that Marvel have doen a great job on this so far.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 19, 2014 6:18:26 GMT -5
And the new coloring is spectacular. Marvel really did a great job overall with this. I'm not familiar with the older colouring, being that this is the first time I've read the series. That said, I've often thought how good the colouring is in this book as I've read it. Sometimes colouring makes no impression on me at all, so the fact that I've noticed it -- in a postive way -- means it must be good. I agree that Marvel have doen a great job on this so far. The older coloring by Eclipse was actually pretty good by '80s standards, but Marvel's new coloring is probably the best recoloring I've seen since it became a practice. It truly adds to the feel of the story.
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 19, 2014 9:58:20 GMT -5
It's not really classic, but I finally read Legion of Three Worlds. It was a really fun story, and I think the reason it is so enjoyable is because it builds so well on years of continuity. I like that Johns referenced various versions of the Legion from the post Zero Hour team to the current team. I do wonder though why the original Legion doesn't show up until the final battle. You would think Brainiac 5 would try to transport them before any other incarnation of the team
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Post by Jasoomian on Jul 20, 2014 22:49:40 GMT -5
Espionage #1 (1964) This was a pretty good comic. Apparently it adapts three episodes from an anthology TV series of the same name. The first story, "The Chameleon", is about a nightclub-act impersonator who goes undercover as a top Gestapo officer in Paris. But won't the Germans notice if The Chameleon disappears from the nightclub circuit? Read the story and find out! The second story is about a Japanese-American soldier in WW2 who must "make the Nips think I'm one of them," as he thought-balloons, in order to find the Japanese ammunition depot in the middle of island warfare. The third story has two OSS agents wash up on the beaches of North Africa where they're soon kidnapped by an arab tribe of five British MI6 guys weating turbans. The small band run around blowing stuff up, confusing jerry and giving him conniption fits. Decent art, kind of a cross b/w the EC and Dell house styles, mostly with Dell's persistent lack of backgrounds.
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