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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 2, 2023 8:21:02 GMT -5
I have. It's a fairly good read despite Jack Kirby completely missing the point of Kubrick's film.
Cei-U!
I summon the paradox!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2023 8:33:09 GMT -5
I have. It's a fairly good read despite Jack Kirby completely missing the point of Kubrick's film. Cei-U! I summon the paradox! I’ve seen the film. What did Kirby miss? (You can tell me because I doubt I’ll ever read it) |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 2, 2023 9:22:39 GMT -5
I bought this series on the cheap but it's very interesting. Young people stumble upon a drug that gives them super speed. Human nature being what it is, they use it for personal gain.   Mark Millar can repulse the reader in some series but his books are never boring. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 2, 2023 10:01:34 GMT -5
I have. It's a fairly good read despite Jack Kirby completely missing the point of Kubrick's film. Cei-U! I summon the paradox! I’ve seen the film. What did Kirby miss? (You can tell me because I doubt I’ll ever read it) He ignored the deliberate ambiguity of the film and explained everything (and heavy-handedly to boot).
Cei-U! I summon the tonal deafness!
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Post by MDG on Apr 2, 2023 10:19:14 GMT -5
I’ve seen the film. What did Kirby miss? (You can tell me because I doubt I’ll ever read it) He ignored the deliberate ambiguity of the film and explained everything (and heavy-handedly to boot).
Cei-U! I summon the tonal deafness!
To be fair, I don't know that 70s comic fans would've accepted an ambiguous ending. Or Kirby felt not delivering a satisfactory ending wasn't doing his job. |
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Post by kirby101 on Apr 2, 2023 14:09:11 GMT -5
Alien, the Illustrated Story by Walt Simonson and Archie Goodwin. In the Original Art Edition. When published, it was one of the best movie adaptations, and a NY Times best seller. It still holds up for it's excellent script by Goodwin, and superb Simonson art and plotting. The paperback had great coloring from a trio of colorists. But at times it hid the Simonson'r line work. It was a joy to read it with the Simnonson art in full size.   |
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Post by kirby101 on Apr 2, 2023 14:23:28 GMT -5
2001 is my favorite movie. I agree with C-U, a good read with Kirby doing a masterful job of interpreting the film into comics without doing a more straightforward take like Al Williamson would do. But yes, it doesn't have the silent complexity of the movie.  He did a better job in the comic that came from this using it as a springboard for his imagination. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 3, 2023 8:49:09 GMT -5
So I've been doing a read through of my Shadowman comics (#11, #13-#15, #17, and #19), and it's not hard to see why I fell in love with this series so much (you know, aside from it mostly taking place in Naw'leans). I think the building of the plot towards what Jack has become and what Darque's endgame really is probably some of the strongest in comics. And it's funny too, because pre-Unity, the story was very much a slow burn, almost a Lovecraft level slow descent into madness
I think once I get my taxes taken care of, I'm going to buy some more Shadowman books. It's been fun collecting Valiant and the Malibu Ultraverse in the wild through $1 and Quarter bins, but I think I'm getting to a point where I'd much prefer entire runs instead of just an issue here or an issue there
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Post by arfetto on Apr 3, 2023 12:33:05 GMT -5
Shadowman is my favorite '90s Valiant Comic overall. The Bob Hall issues (I think he did over thirty of the issues, I've never counted) are the reason why.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 3, 2023 15:15:19 GMT -5
Over the past two weeks I re-read all the Maggie and Hopey stories in my bookshelf, thanks to the Locas and Locas II compendiums and the Love and Rockets vol. 4 issues. It is still insanely brilliant. Jaime Hernandez is a comic-book grand master.
The series is basically told in real time, although sometimes we lose a couple years in between two stories (sometimes between two panels, even). But that reflects real life to a T: some periods seem to have lasted longer than they actually did (our youth!) and other periods fly you by if you blink. Especially as we get older, and decades blend into one another the way individual years used to.
Jaime's clean, clean line work is amazing. He can seamlessly make near-photorealism coexist with Peanuts-like characters and with others that would be at home in an Archie comic, always imbuing them with subtle but genuine emotion. Few other cartoonists I can think of could manage to make a character's eyes reflect so many different and complex feelings, especially since the eyes he draws are usually two lines and a dot. To transpose so much emotion to the paper with so little ink is shows true mastery of our favourite art form.
Seeing all of Jaime's characters grow old page after page is both beautiful and heart-wrenching, because it's easy to see our own life (and diminishing number of remaining days) reflected in theirs. The cultural reality Jaime describes is one that's fairly alien to me; I was never into punk rock (or any other style of music for that matter), I never had an alcohol-fueled rebel youth, and my family was the opposite of dysfunctional. Still, since deep down we're pretty much built the same way, I can fully emphasize with the little dramas that the cast goes through year after year. A broken heart is a broken heart no matter where you're from or where you are right now.
Jaime's approach, not firmly realistic, lends itself to forays into magical realism (though perhaps less so than what is seen in the work of his brother Gilbert). The death of Speedy Ortiz and the black dog storylines were both amazing and very spooky; they could serve as guides to anyone who wants to tell a proper ghost story.
I now find myself in a sad state of withdrawal, since Love & Rockets abandoned the big annual publication model returned to the standard comic format (and I don't have a LCS around). I look forward to future collections.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 5, 2023 11:27:49 GMT -5
I did a re-read of Deadman: Love After Death by Mike Baron and Kelley Jones from very early 1990. This was the first of two Deadman mini-series' the duo would do. I bought this when it came out, and I've probably re-read it once since then, but it's still been easily over 20 years since I've cracked the books. Deadman goes looking for the ghost of an aerialist in rural Wisconsin to ease his loneliness and while he finds her, he also finds a haunted circus. Supernatural shenanigans ensue. This is very much a horror book, not a super-hero book. And if you don't like Jones' art, this one is not for you. This is the skeletal emaciated Deadman turned up to 11, rather than the lithe Neal Adams Deadman. It's a decent book. It certainly feels outside the mainstream continuity of the time, which is fine by me, but may be off-putting for others. It's a perfectly fine book that I now probably don't need to read again for another 20 years.  |
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 5, 2023 14:25:01 GMT -5
I did a re-read of Deadman: Love After Death by Mike Baron and Kelley Jones from very early 1990. This was the first of two Deadman mini-series' the duo would do. I bought this when it came out, and I've probably re-read it once since then, but it's still been easily over 20 years since I've cracked the books. Deadman goes looking for the ghost of an aerialist in rural Wisconsin to ease his loneliness and while he finds her, he also finds a haunted circus. Supernatural shenanigans ensue. This is very much a horror book, not a super-hero book. And if you don't like Jones' art, this one is not for you. This is the skeletal emaciated Deadman turned up to 11, rather than the lithe Neal Adams Deadman. It's a decent book. It certainly feels outside the mainstream continuity of the time, which is fine by me, but may be off-putting for others. It's a perfectly fine book that I now probably don't need to read again for another 20 years. Being outside mainstream continuity bothers me not a whit, but the art makes this a hard pass.
Cei-U! I summon the "blechh"!
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Post by MDG on Apr 5, 2023 15:01:05 GMT -5
I did a re-read of Deadman: Love After Death by Mike Baron and Kelley Jones from very early 1990. This was the first of two Deadman mini-series' the duo would do. I bought this when it came out, and I've probably re-read it once since then, but it's still been easily over 20 years since I've cracked the books. Deadman goes looking for the ghost of an aerialist in rural Wisconsin to ease his loneliness and while he finds her, he also finds a haunted circus. Supernatural shenanigans ensue. This is very much a horror book, not a super-hero book. And if you don't like Jones' art, this one is not for you. This is the skeletal emaciated Deadman turned up to 11, rather than the lithe Neal Adams Deadman. It's a decent book. It certainly feels outside the mainstream continuity of the time, which is fine by me, but may be off-putting for others. It's a perfectly fine book that I now probably don't need to read again for another 20 years. Being outside mainstream continuity bothers me not a whit, but the art makes this a hard pass.
Cei-U! I summon the "blechh"!
Yeah, I think I still have these (though maybe in a for-sale box). And the art is very good, but I couldn't get past this depiction of Deadman.
I even prefer this version...
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 5, 2023 15:14:45 GMT -5
That NatLamp version is one of their most spot-on parodies, right up there with Sgt.Nick Penis and His Brassball Battalion.
Cei-U!
I summon the Golden Age of Satire!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 6, 2023 20:09:00 GMT -5
I think Cinebook is well and truly gone from Hoopla now. Last time, the listing and what I had borrowed were still there, just not available. Now they are totally gone.
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