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Post by EdoBosnar on Oct 29, 2023 16:46:59 GMT -5
Giant-size Spider-man #1 (1974)story: Len Wein, art: Ross Andru & Don Heck I remembered that this story is included in a reprint book that I have and decided to give it a read, since it seemed appropriate to the season. The set-up for getting Spidey to meet Dracula is pretty complicated: Aunt May has come down with a new strain of flu that’s impervious to existing vaccines, and the doctor treating her informs Peter that her only hope may be an experimental vaccine being brought to the US by a certain eccentric Dr. Maxfield, who is traveling by ship due to a fear of flying. But the ship is still a few days out of NY, so Spidey convinces the Human Torch to loan him one of the FF’s high-speed self-piloting rocket craft. He flies out to the passenger ship and then sneaks aboard, initially in his street clothes as Peter Parker. However, Dracula has just arrived on the ship, out to kill that same Dr. Maxfield, because apparently this new vaccine will somehow threaten his plans – it’s never made clear how or why. And furthermore, there’s a group of maggia goons on the ship who want to kidnap the good doctor so that their apparently deported leader can blackmail the US authorities into letting him back into the country. Okay... This was honestly a pretty middling story, and Dracula and Spidey never even confront each other – their sole interaction is early on, when the count bumps into Peter Parker on deck... ( although I have to admit that ‘dolt’ is one of my favorite comic book insults). There’s also this odd sequence at the very start, in which Spidey interrupts a jewel store heist, but the mysterious burglar slips away from him. This was a set-up for Marvel Team-up #23 (which I looked up: Human Torch and Iceman fight that same mystery man who ends up being *spoiler altert* Equinox). However, I found the art quite interesting; I don’t think I’ve ever seen Andru inked by Heck.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 30, 2023 19:59:58 GMT -5
I’m glad I did my research last week.
On a whim, I bid on Hero for Hire #10. I like what little I’ve read of Hero for Hire but I’ve only got three or four issues from the early years of the title, And I figured I would be able to get this one pretty cheap. I think it was five dollars.
I looked it up and found out it was continued in the next issue. The same dealer had #11, and I ended up getting that for $4.25.
So they came in the mail today. And I’m reading #10 and enjoying it. And it gets to the end and Mr. Death has poor Luke trapped in the sewers as the water is pouring in!
If I hadn’t done my research, I would have to wait a week or even more for the conclusion!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 31, 2023 11:09:17 GMT -5
Giant-size Spider-man #1 (1974)story: Len Wein, art: Ross Andru & Don Heck The art looks nice; I really like Andru's Spider-man. But while I would have bought Peter's motivation back in the '70s I would definitely facepalm if I read that comic today. How is a vaccine going to help if May already has the flu? If Professor McGuffin is afraid of planes, why does he carry his experimental vaccine on his own? (FedEx is your friend, doc!) Since when do doctors use untested drugs on their patients? Why does May rate special treatment? Why doesn't Peter ask Mr. Fantastic for his medical help since he's going to the Baxter Building anyway? Why isn't the NIH all over this special strain of flu and declaring a pandemic alert? Aaaaargh! Agreed on the use of "dolt". Dr. Doom, Dracula and other blue-blooded villains should always use it!
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Post by dbutler69 on Oct 31, 2023 13:52:35 GMT -5
I’m glad I did my research last week. On a whim, I bid on Hero for Hire #10. I like what little I’ve read of Hero for Hire but I’ve only got three or four issues from the early years of the title, And I figured I would be able to get this one pretty cheap. I think it was five dollars. I looked it up and found out it was continued in the next issue. The same dealer had #11, and I ended up getting that for $4.25. So they came in the mail today. And I’m reading #10 and enjoying it. And it gets to the end and Mr. Death has poor Luke trapped in the sewers as the water is pouring in! If I hadn’t done my research, I would have to wait a week or even more for the conclusion! I love buying random Bronze Age issues, but when you buy an old Marvel, you definitely run the risk of the story being continued. I even somewhat recently used my phone while at the LCS to see if an inexpensive comic I wanted to buy had a to be continued story. Much less risk of this with Bronze Age DC unless it's one of those anthologies where the stories run about 8-10 pages.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 31, 2023 18:08:03 GMT -5
Surprisingly, this counts as classic now... Air by G. Willow Wilson. I got the 1st few of this at random to fill out a mycomicshop order, and liked it enough to get the rest... it's really good! Very creative premise.. it would fit in with Fables and Unwritten even though it features Amelia Earhart and not fictional characters (well I mean the characters are fictional, but not like Fables). Looking foward to getting the last trade!
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Post by Batflunkie on Nov 2, 2023 13:12:53 GMT -5
Amazing Spider-Man #72 Picking back up on Spidey after going over some other comic book related stuff. So Spidey got a bit tired of Jameson constantly being an ass towards him and threatened him, sending him into a shock. Well Robbie Robertson, the city editor, took over and started giving Spidey proper praise and with J.J. still in the hospital, this happens
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 3, 2023 16:34:26 GMT -5
Started a re-read of Age of Bronze. What a beautiful and fulfilling book. It's too bad that the market is such that Shanower hasn't been able to finish the project. As best I can tell the last issue was #34 back in 2019. Sigh. Why can't we have nice things?
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Post by commond on Nov 3, 2023 17:20:14 GMT -5
Started a re-read of Age of Bronze. What a beautiful and fulfilling book. It's too bad that the market is such that Shanower hasn't been able to finish the project. As best I can tell the last issue was #34 back in 2019. Sigh. Why can't we have nice things? He's been focused on coloring it. I'm happy with it in black and white.
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Post by james on Nov 4, 2023 18:28:49 GMT -5
In addition to still reading FF MASTERWORK vol 2 I dug through my collection and grabbed Astro City vol 3. It’s been so long since I’ve read this, it’s going to feel like reading for the first time . I don’t remember anything about this run if A.C.
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Post by spoon on Nov 4, 2023 22:34:10 GMT -5
Returning to the Five Years Later period, I read Legion of Super-Heroes (1989) #18-24. The series dumps you in the middle of things after a five year gap, but I thought after I got further into the run the whole history would become clearer. Unfortunately, that's not really the case. There's a degree of opaqueness the writing. The series tends to avoid explanatory exposition that some readers, but I find helpful. The script avoids captions for narration of thought bubbles and mostly stick to word balloons with actual dialogue.
It can be confusing at times. Characters come up that I'm not familiar with. I don't know if they're established characters from some past era of the Legion mythos or whether their familiarity with the main cast is due to contact I should happened during the five year gap. LOSH #18 concerns a showdown with the Dark Circle. I know that's an existing group from the past, but I don't think I've read any of their stories. Here, they're portrayed as a sort of cult. It's creepy and there's intimidation involved. As of now, it seems to be a one-off story.
LOSH #19-20 features the destruction of the moon and its aftermath. These issues have what I like and dislike about the writing of the series wrapped up together. Because LOSH takes place in the far future, the Bierbaums and Keith Giffen. Why can't they just blow up the moon? There's bleakness, but there's an absurdity to it. The Dominators (an alien race) have been secretly controlling Earth Gov (the planetary government of Earth). They have a secret plan to blow up the moon if necessary if circumstances arise that require an extreme tactic to quell a rebellion. Except that's not what happens. Somehow someone accidentally triggers the device that blows up the moon. Evil masterminds harming people through a tragic screw-up feels like absurdly realistic. On the other hand, there's a lack of realism to the "why doesn't Superman singlehandedly end WWII" problem. We don't get any scenes of the team trying to stop the impending doom. We haven't even really gotten any significant reaction from the members of the reassembled team, just a bit of reaction to former members (Invisible Kid, Bouncing Boy) that seem unrealistically muted. On the first point, I'd think there'd be plenty of time for the folks to realize that rocky debris was coming from the Moon to Earth. Then again, maybe comic book physics cause the rock to travel at light speed or something. But why are most members of the team going about their business like they didn't even read #19.
Many of these issues are like split books, with a different subplot separated out in the latter pages, rather than integrating in into one story. In #19, after the impact, the story switches over to a time displaced Jo Nah (Ultraboy). He runs into Dr. Fate in the distant past (probably because Giffen was also working in the distant past. It's interesting because it's sort of weird, but then Jo is sent back to the future and it seems like there was no point. I assume that when Jo was time displaced it would build to something pivotal to the larger plot. But it just meanders until Jo learns a lesson about finally mourning the seemingly dead Tinya Wazzo (Phantom Girl), and that lesson feels tacked-on.
LOSH #21-24 includes the Quiet Darkness story arc, described as a spiritual sequel to the Great Darkness Saga. In a George-singing-lead-vocals twist, inker Al Gordon writes the story. While I like George Harrison, Gordon's writing is more confusing than a typical issue. Darkseid is involved in some scientific plot to combine two twins into one person to fulfill a prophecy. I'm not sure what the point is. It takes a while to halfway explain who the characters are. The scripting is opaque. Halfway through the story, someone seems to have pointed out to Gordon that the male name is usually spelled Francis instead of Frances, so this scientist's name changes mid-arc. At the end, Jo asks Brainiac 5 to explain what just happens. I feel you, Jo. We also get Lobo, or maybe not Lobo, in a guest appearance. The best parts of the story are scenes with Furball, the non-verbal monster Timber Wolf has turned into sometime during the gap. I've never been a big Timber Wolf fan, but Giffen & Gordon evoke a lot of pathos just with their art.
The back pages of #21-24 have a sub-plot regarding the mysterious Batch SW6. They are subjects in an experiment run by the Dominators that were freed by the damage done by moon fragment impacts. We get hints here and there about tissue samples from Legionnaires until the final pages of #24 that reveal the SW6 to be some folks (clones?) who look like the Silver Age in old costumes and including decent members like Karate Kid, Ferro Lad, and the first Invisible Kid.
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Post by Chris on Nov 5, 2023 2:51:28 GMT -5
LOSH #19-20 features the destruction of the moon and its aftermath. These issues have what I like and dislike about the writing of the series wrapped up together. Because LOSH takes place in the far future, the Bierbaums and Keith Giffen. Why can't they just blow up the moon? There's bleakness, but there's an absurdity to it. The Dominators (an alien race) have been secretly controlling Earth Gov (the planetary government of Earth). They have a secret plan to blow up the moon if necessary if circumstances arise that require an extreme tactic to quell a rebellion. Except that's not what happens. Somehow someone accidentally triggers the device that blows up the moon. Evil masterminds harming people through a tragic screw-up feels like absurdly realistic.... We don't get any scenes of the team trying to stop the impending doom.It wasn't accidental. Several members of the Legion DID try to stop it. And there is a one panel, blink-and-you'll-miss-it image of Superman in the story. However, none of this is apparent to someone who read the issues of Legion but did not read the "Time & Time Again" storyline/crossover that was published concurrently in the Superman line of books, where all this was explained. The actual event happened in Adventures of Superman #478, I believe. The Legion book does mention that the destruction of the moon "was not triggered by the Dominion representatives on Earth, at least not intentionally." The Dominators did not trigger it, someone else did, and it was completely and wholly intentional. Many of these issues are like split books, with a different subplot separated out in the latter pages, rather than integrating in into one story. In #19, after the impact, the story switches over to a time displaced Jo Nah (Ultraboy). He runs into Dr. Fate in the distant past (probably because Giffen was also working in the distant past. It's interesting because it's sort of weird, but then Jo is sent back to the future and it seems like there was no point. I assume that when Jo was time displaced it would build to something pivotal to the larger plot. But it just meanders until Jo learns a lesson about finally mourning the seemingly dead Tinya Wazzo (Phantom Girl), and that lesson feels tacked-on. This was another type of crossover, albeit a miniature one. It had to do with Phantom Girl being transported to the 20th century where she started appearing in the L.E.G.I.O.N. series (the one that always had a year after the title). If I had to guess, I would say this was pushed on Giffen and the Bierbaums and they had to work with it. But that's just a guess. The Bierbaums discuss numerous problems they faced at DC on their blog.
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Post by spoon on Nov 5, 2023 9:53:12 GMT -5
LOSH #19-20 features the destruction of the moon and its aftermath. These issues have what I like and dislike about the writing of the series wrapped up together. Because LOSH takes place in the far future, the Bierbaums and Keith Giffen. Why can't they just blow up the moon? There's bleakness, but there's an absurdity to it. The Dominators (an alien race) have been secretly controlling Earth Gov (the planetary government of Earth). They have a secret plan to blow up the moon if necessary if circumstances arise that require an extreme tactic to quell a rebellion. Except that's not what happens. Somehow someone accidentally triggers the device that blows up the moon. Evil masterminds harming people through a tragic screw-up feels like absurdly realistic.... We don't get any scenes of the team trying to stop the impending doom.It wasn't accidental. Several members of the Legion DID try to stop it. And there is a one panel, blink-and-you'll-miss-it image of Superman in the story. However, none of this is apparent to someone who read the issues of Legion but did not read the "Time & Time Again" storyline/crossover that was published concurrently in the Superman line of books, where all this was explained. The actual event happened in Adventures of Superman #478, I believe. The Legion book does mention that the destruction of the moon "was not triggered by the Dominion representatives on Earth, at least not intentionally." The Dominators did not trigger it, someone else did, and it was completely and wholly intentional. Many of these issues are like split books, with a different subplot separated out in the latter pages, rather than integrating in into one story. In #19, after the impact, the story switches over to a time displaced Jo Nah (Ultraboy). He runs into Dr. Fate in the distant past (probably because Giffen was also working in the distant past. It's interesting because it's sort of weird, but then Jo is sent back to the future and it seems like there was no point. I assume that when Jo was time displaced it would build to something pivotal to the larger plot. But it just meanders until Jo learns a lesson about finally mourning the seemingly dead Tinya Wazzo (Phantom Girl), and that lesson feels tacked-on. This was another type of crossover, albeit a miniature one. It had to do with Phantom Girl being transported to the 20th century where she started appearing in the L.E.G.I.O.N. series (the one that always had a year after the title). If I had to guess, I would say this was pushed on Giffen and the Bierbaums and they had to work with it. But that's just a guess. The Bierbaums discuss numerous problems they faced at DC on their blog. I did notice Superman's emblem in that one panel and the Superman tie-ins are mentioned a bit in the letter pages. I didn't realize members of the Legion were involved in trying to stop the explosion, because those efforts go basically unmentioned as far as I noticed. It's very odd to have such a muted reaction to such a major event. I'll have to read those Superman comics sometime together with a re-read of LOSH #19-20. I was aware of Tinya being displaced to the 20th century to become Phase in L.E.G.I.O.N., hence my phrasing of "seemingly dead." I've only read about 2 or 3 issues of L.E.G.I.O.N. in my life, but I think one was the first or second issue after Tinya shows up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 10:12:30 GMT -5
I love the Legion, but they got the moon destruction wrong. Everyone knows the Comet Empire destroyed it much earlier in 2201:
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 8, 2023 8:01:07 GMT -5
read Micronauts #1 today (turns out it was the recent Fascimile edition, which makes alot more sense).. I didn't realize how Star Wars it is... feels very much like someone wanting to write a space opera in that style. That would make sense to me if Marvel wasn't ALSO producing a Star Wars comic.
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Post by Confessor on Nov 8, 2023 8:33:48 GMT -5
read Micronauts #1 today (turns out it was the recent Fascimile edition, which makes alot more sense).. I didn't realize how Star Wars it is... feels very much like someone wanting to write a space opera in that style. That would make sense to me if Marvel wasn't ALSO producing a Star Wars comic. Micronauts was the back-up strip in Marvel UK's Star Wars Weekly comic for a number of years in the late 70s and very early 80s. So, I guess Marvel knew how similar in vibe they were and assumed the two strips would compliment each other nicely in the British SW comic. Which I agree they did.
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