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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Feb 22, 2016 14:05:20 GMT -5
- Batman since the begining, including, all specials and annuals. - Detective when it was drawn by Manapul - Batman: The Dark Knight when it was drawn by Maleev - Batgirl since it got batgirled - Wonder Woman when it was written by Azzarelo - Swamp Thing - Animal Man when i was written by Lemire - I, Vampire - Deadman, the mini series in DC Universe Presents - Prez - Action Comics by Morrison - Gotham Accademy - Green Arrow when it was written by Lemire - Section Eight - Batman Eternal - Arkham Manor - Batman and Robin by Tomasi - Batman, Incorporated - Batwoman by J. H. Williams III - Talon - Batman/Superman when it was drawn by Jae Lee - Superman Unchained - Men of War - Star-Spangled War Stories Featuring G.I. Zombie - Dial H - Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E. - Penguin: Pain and Prejudice - Multiversity - The Shade A title I'll eventualy get is Omega Men, and maybe Grayson.
I got some more (red Lantern, Stormwatch, some others at the very begining), but nothing that I'll be keeping. I still need to read Demon Knight a little more to make my mind.
Nowadays, I only get Batman, Batgirl and Vertigo, that's it.
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Post by Gene on Feb 22, 2016 15:23:19 GMT -5
The only DC books left for me are Batman, Superman, and Action Comics. I'm also reading Batman and Robin Eternal, but that wraps up soon.
Swamp Thing and Animal Man were two standouts in a strong group of launch titles. Both are due for another reading eventually.
As far as new books coming out of Rebirth, the only one that's a lock for me is Blue Beetle. I might check out Nightwing and Justice League depending on creative teams.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 15:35:11 GMT -5
Started the new 52 with Action, Superman, Superboy, Superman/Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Hawk and Dove, Legion of Super Heroes, Green Arrow, Batgirl, Justice League, Justice League International, Teen Titans, Jonah Hex (or whatever the comic was in which he appeared), Justice League Dark, and Aquaman.
Not reading any of those anymore. Only DC titles on my pull list are Grayson, Lois and Clark, and Titans Hunt.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 22, 2016 16:32:55 GMT -5
I totally bailed out. The last one standing was Jonah Hex and even that was much better during its previous incarnation
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 22, 2016 21:06:02 GMT -5
New 52 debut titles Sept 2011: 26/ 52 (50%) May 2016 regular DCU titles: 22/ 37 (59%) Rebirth regular titles: 24/32 (75%) weighted for the double shipping: 37/49 (76%)
DC dollars May 2016 (regular titles only and no discount): $82 DC dollars by Fall 2016: $111
Justice League, Superman, Action, Batman, Detective, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman and Batgirl went from start to finish. All ten will be there when Rebirth starts up the next phase of DC Comics. There were many others along the way from Batman/Superman and Superman/Wonder Woman to Vibe and Bat-Mite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 23:32:11 GMT -5
I was on a hiatus from comic from 2007-2012, so I didn't get any of the new52 at launch, but got back in the game around the time issue 4-5 of the new52 were hitting the racks and sampled about half of the line and was getting a good 15-20 titles regularly for a while. By the time Villain's month hit (Sept 2013) I was down to 1 new52 title and the interruption of Villain's month to the story that was in progress on that title led me to drop it too. I sampled an issue or 2 of Gotham by Midnight, Gotham Academy and Batgirl of Burnside and read a few things via trades from the library (Snyder's Batman, Grayson-the first volumes of Gotham Academy and Batgirl of Burnside), but haven't bought any other book or had a non-Vertigo DC book on my pull since then. I may check out Omega Men or Dr. Fate in trade, but the long wait for the trade release has caused my interest to wane on those too, so I will likely only check them out if the library gets them rather than buy them as I thought I would initially.
So what's left of the new52 for me-nothing. The few trades of it I bought are slotted to be traded in for credit-there's nothing there I want to revisit either. The only new52 era non-Vertigo DC books that will remain in my possession are James Robinson's Shade series, Marv Wolfman's Night Force, Joe Kubert Presents, the Chaykin drawn issues of G.I. Combat he signed for me when I met him, and a couple of the National Comics one shots (Madame X & Eternity), and none of those were really closely tied to the shared universe DC was peddling over those years.
As for Rebirth, I might buy the 80 page intro issue to see what's what and depending what I see might sample a few Rebirth one-shots at launch. If any series looks interesting, I'll trade wait on it (and if DC delays trade releases like they normally do I will likely lose interest before they are released, which is their loss).
I've lost all faith in the current administration to produce stories I want to read. I won't buy a title out of loyalty because giving them money for a title I am not enjoying is only rewarding them for giving me stuff I don't like, and they will only listen to the dollars not anything that I say or post anyways, so the only way to let them know I don't like it is to not buy it. A company has to earn my money with each new release. A creator may get the benefit of the doubt for me to try something new if they have a proven track record with me, but if I don't like it, I still won't buy it out of loyalty for the creator or a need for completeness. I don't want complete runs of things I don't like, I will only buy what I do like and a gap in a run bothers me much less than money missing from my wallet because I spent it on a poor quality comic.
So what the new52 has left for me is a bad taste in my mouth and a distrust of the current regime at DC. For a long time DC was a company that had earned a lot of benefit of the doubt and goodwill from me (beginning about 1986 w/the DC Renaissance) as an innovator and producer of quality products; they started pissing that away long before the new52 (the decisions and product of both Marvel & DC over the years 2005-2007 destroyed most of the benefit of the doubt and goodwill I had for either and is what led to my 5 year hiatus I mentioned at the outset). All the new52 showed me was that DC was the same as it was when I started my hiatus and that's ok, there's plenty of other comics I do want to read out there, so I'm not their target customer and they are not my go to brand. This current regime at DC has been talking the talk for well over a decade now, and in all that time they have yet to walk the walk to back it up, so as far as I am concerned, until I see otherwise, Rebirth is just more talk and will result in more of the same old same old. The new52 basically put a stamp on the fact that Didio, Johns, Lee and crew can put a new coat of paint on it, but they are still serving the same turds that have characterized their time at DC.
-M
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 23, 2016 0:19:40 GMT -5
I bought every # 1 in the New 52 except for Justice League International and Batgirl.
Stayed with most of them to about # 8.
DC was my favorite publisher for years and years, but eventually in the last 2 or 3 years I pretty much stopped buying DC, except for good sales on Comixology.
Vertigo is a shadow of what it was as well (sorry Shelly Bond).
Most of what's taken the place of where my $$ are going are Image, Dark Horse, Valiant, a little Archie and some IDW. Also, some super-small indies and then always awesome Fantagraphics.
Some of what's come out of the New52 has been great, some of it not so much, but to me the biggest misfire that really killed DC was the missed chance to really expand the DCU with the myriad of other concepts and characters.
I have next to no faith anymore in Didio and Lee. Morrison was great and I still love Johns. The rest is hit and miss, but I'm giving Rebirth a chance at least.
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 23, 2016 3:27:18 GMT -5
I'd need a list of solicits from back in the day, otherwise I'm sure I'd forget a book or 2 from my pull list of 6 years ago.
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Post by batlaw on Feb 23, 2016 3:37:54 GMT -5
Nothing. Not a damn thing. I'm reading jl, jla and batman beyond, but not because I love em or think they're great or anything. Just reading them out of curiosity and mild interest. Only started jl because darkseid war and the jla story (?) intrigued me, but they haven't really kept my interest so I don't care. Only reading batman beyond because it was the last /only dc book I was reading and liking. But then they nu52'd it too and now Its also just ok and I continue reading just out of curiously and love for the character.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Feb 23, 2016 15:50:50 GMT -5
My main issue has mostly been that I guess it's increasingly difficult to get my attention with superhero stories. I mean, how many years have we been reading those stories? I'm not sure those are much worse than what we've had before, because let's be honest, how many times can we enjoy remakes of the same stories, with the added flaw of far too common decompressed storytelling within 20 pages stories?! Good writers manage to get the audience' attention much faster then before, so the real good ones have no use for extended work for the big too if any. Brubaker should never look back. I'd be very happy to read Deathstroke or Aquaman, but solely due to his writing of it. A lot of my New 52 consumtion probably had a little to do with this loyalty MRP mentioned, that ine that isn't that easy to shake. But now that I'm done with that, I'm really strugging to see any title of the next DC that would grab my imagination. I'll try out Snyder's Detective and maybe some Batman if King turns out to be the breakout talent we might hope he is, but, other then that, Image, Mignolaverse, Alien comics, the current Bachalo marvel comic, and some other indies are more then enough to fill my weekly picks. So I guess that the new 52 was my last "Hurrah" with mainstream US superhero comics. But I don't regret anything
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 23, 2016 17:21:00 GMT -5
Just DC's use of the term Super-Man has me extremely interested in that title already.
Like mrp stated earlier, continuity be damned. Vote with your dollars. Buying a product you don't enjoy, for whatever reason, only encourages the publisher to continue with their dreck.
Many of us growing up would see a title, or character, through the rougher times, but they probably only had 1 or 2 titles they were in, and, thank God, decompressed didn't exist back then.
That's one of the biggest reasons why comics are no longer the value entertainment, not to mention satisfying entertainment, they used to be.
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Post by String on Feb 23, 2016 17:49:24 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm having trouble remembering what I first bought in the New52.
The Superman titles looked interesting, with a classic creator such as Perez on Superman and Morrison's plans on Action. Yet the original 5 year gap between the two books cost them chances for true potential (I still can't fathom how you force someone like Perez into quitting your title)
Justice League Dark was a good title, the team roster held an interesting dynamic and it was cool to see Tim Hunter again. But the cancellation of Vertigo's Hellblazer that lead to the changes to Constantine in the Nu52 kinda killed that vibe for me.
While I didn't read it from the onset, I caught up on Johns on Justice League and found it be better than I originally thought. Johns is still a very talented writer and this series showcased it.
Is it fair to say that the Wildstorm characters are officially 'dead' now? Their only title I tried was Stormwatch but only stayed with it for a couple of issues.
Demon Knights held some potential.
I was thankful that for once, a reboot didn't affect the Legion of Superheroes. The title started off decently, but Levitz soon declined with an ending that was quite sad (despite some amazing art by Giffen).
The only title I stuck with was Flash by Manapul. His design layouts were fantastic and the stories engaging.
In fact, the only Nu52 titles I currently read are Flash and the two GL books.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 26, 2016 22:58:36 GMT -5
I bought quite a bit to try at first (Ironically, the New 52 is what got me back to a monthly pull after several years of not having one). Right now I'm getting Batgirl, Starfire, Gotham Academy... I think that's about it. I'll grab Midnighter and/or Grayson if it looks good. I was getting Titans Hunt and Teen Titans, but I'm done with those. Jury's still out on Lois and Clark. My box today was very light on DC
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Post by batlaw on Feb 27, 2016 0:52:37 GMT -5
When nu52 launched, I continued getting all batman related books and started on whatever new batman related I don't remember what. I also kept getting all green lantern books. I started up again on some old favorites like Titans and action, and tried out some new stuff and titles I hadn't read in ages like flash. I dropped the new stuff either within first couple issues or at the end of the first arc. Pretty soon soon I started dropping the ancillary books and before I knew it I was down to just the flagship titles then quickly down to just batman and detective. I continued getting those two out of pure habit and stubbornness against admitting "defeat". It was bad and hard enough accepting I didn't want so many of the other books I loved and had enjoyed for so long. After 2 years? I finally came to my senses and dropped those two as well. The only book I continued reading was batman beyond. I eventually dipped back in with some of the event minis but nothing's really turned me on or brought me back.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 27, 2016 17:40:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I bought all the # 1s and dropped everything. I did a big catch up reread of "everything the library has, almost" a couple months ago. - Batman since the begining, including, all specials and annuals. - Quite like this. I'm actively reading it through the library. As I said before, I didn't expect much from Capullo but am impressed every time every issue. - Detective when it was drawn by Manapul - I'm not that far along. Chew is my favorite factory system comic right now so I read the John Layman issues, but they didn't do much for me. I liked Manapul's Flash. (And I'm much more into the Flash as a character than Batman) - Batman: The Dark Knight when it was drawn by Maleev - I didn't even know that happened 'till I did a big 'ol everything-in-the-library-almost-52-reread. I figured that would be promoted as a huge deal! - Batgirl since it got batgirled - I quite liked this. I liked it even before it got Batgirled. - Wonder Woman when it was written by Azzarelo - REALLLY enjoyed the first few issues but felt it was crawling up it's navel like 100 Bullets did. I'll get caught up eventually. - Swamp Thing - The library has volumes 4, 5, and 6 only for some reason. Pretty enjoyable. - Animal Man when i was written by Lemire - Loved, loved, loved, this book while Foreman was drawing it, top 1% of mainstream comics. Then it got caught up in crossover nonsense and I couldn't bring myself to care. - I, Vampire - I really like Sorrentino's work, but gothy/twilighty vampires aren't my thing. - Deadman, the mini series in DC Universe Presents - Library didn't get it. - Prez - Library didn't get it, but I might get the trade. - Action Comics by Morrison - Generally quite liked it. I'm a big 'ol Morrison fan. - Gotham Accademy - A little hard to follow, but good art and character work. - Green Arrow when it was written by Lemire - Library had the first volume. LOVED the art. The story was the same as every "Let's undo all the stuff the last creative team did" story I've ever read, which I dislike. - Section Eight - Library will probably get it at some point. - Batman Eternal - Really pretty enjoyable all the way through. - Arkham Manor - Don't know what this is. - Batman and Robin by Tomasi - 1,000 % better than anything else Tomasi did with corporate characters. A solid B. - Batman, Incorporated - Loved the concept Did Not Like the ending. - Batwoman by J. H. Williams III - The first JHIII Batwoman run was one of my favorite superhero books of the decade. This... wasn't, so much. I haven't even read everything the library had. - Talon - Library didn't get. - Batman/Superman when it was drawn by Jae Lee - I think I liked this ok. Hard to remember. - Superman Unchained - Surprisingly enjoyable. I like pretty much everything Snyder does. - Men of War - Library didn't get it. - Star-Spangled War Stories Featuring G.I. Zombie - Library didn't get it. - Dial H - Did nothing for me. I know a lot of people liked it! - Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E. - Library didn't get it. - Penguin: Pain and Prejudice - Read the first issue. I care deeply about the Penguin and I did not think they understood the Penguin. I care so much! - Multiversity - Ehhhhhhh..... A bunch of first issues that end without resolving any subplots is basically playing to Morrison's worst impulses as a writer. I was REALLY EXCITED about this, and it just wasn't any good. Oddly, I liked the Jim Lee Earth X issue best. - The Shade - Was this a spin-off of Starman? The '90s Starman is basically my least favorite mainstream comic book ever. But I kind of liked the Shade. I might get it if the library does.
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