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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 26, 2016 23:49:18 GMT -5
@ Reptisaurus - Namor and Red Skull do interact.. it's in the issue that Red Skull has captured Doom's castle (while Doom was helping Namor)... Namor is shocked to see him, and the Skull offers him to be partners with him. Namor says something like 'but you're a Nazi...'. then thinks about it before Doom gets back in the fray.
Yes, that story here Doom just casually mentions he has completely taken over the world off panel... bizarre.
I definitely want that Astonishing Tales story... I'm going to have to grab the "Rarities' MMW or something.
I'm reading this in a 'complete collection' trade... which seems to be what they do for titles that aren't epic enough to be in the epic series.. the format is almost identical though. Or maybe it a 'stories Roy Thomas came up with in trade form' series... Invaders is a similar format (though 2 volumes).
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 27, 2016 0:47:47 GMT -5
wildfire, the Dr. Doom stories from Astonishing Tales, as well as the Doom story from Marvel Super-Heroes #20, are included in the Essential Super-Villain Team-Up volume.
Cei-U! I summon the Latverian lout!
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Post by realjla on Jan 27, 2016 3:18:59 GMT -5
Please don't flash your Giant-Size Man-Thing in public. "Hulk SMASH Giant-Size Carrot-Nose! Huh?...Carrot-Nose is not carrot OR nose? Bah! Too many hyphens make Hulk's head hurt!"
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 27, 2016 16:44:39 GMT -5
@ Reptisaurus - Namor and Red Skull do interact.. it's in the issue that Red Skull has captured Doom's castle (while Doom was helping Namor)... Namor is shocked to see him, and the Skull offers him to be partners with him. Namor says something like 'but you're a Nazi...'. then thinks about it before Doom gets back in the fray. Oh, okay, I'd forgotten that. I don't think there was really any continuity between Namor's Golden Age and Silver/Bronze age appearances outside of Roy Thomas' stuff. Like every relationship was new, even if the characters had technically interacted in 1942.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 27, 2016 17:10:47 GMT -5
The Library had the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans vol. 2. So I am reading that.
It's the age of total earnest-ness in superhero comics. It's enough after Stan Lee's post-modern writer-as-a-character take and before Alan Moore's more literary style, and everything is completely straightforward with no subtext or depth, and the story isn't about anything.
I dunno.. Not my thing but I'm slowly getting into it. There's a big fight between the Amazons of Paradise Island and the (Greek) Mythic titans, which is approproately epic. I've complained about George Perez before and the same stuff still applies. He's a good storyteller but there's so much extraneous detail that I can't scan the page and figure out what's going on, and he doesn't really use different panel sizes to show the big! important! events. So you have to closely read each tiny little panel. That bugs me.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 27, 2016 20:53:47 GMT -5
wildfire, the Dr. Doom stories from Astonishing Tales, as well as the Doom story from Marvel Super-Heroes #20, are included in the Essential Super-Villain Team-Up volume. Cei-U! I summon the Latverian lout! Ahh.. that's not a bad back up... I'm going to see if I can get the actual comics.. they don't seem too expensive (less so that MMW Marvel Rarities, which seems to bottom out at about $50). Good to know!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 27, 2016 20:55:13 GMT -5
The Library had the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans vol. 2. So I am reading that. It's the age of total earnest-ness in superhero comics. It's enough after Stan Lee's post-modern writer-as-a-character take and before Alan Moore's more literary style, and everything is completely straightforward with no subtext or depth, and the story isn't about anything. I dunno.. Not my thing but I'm slowly getting into it. There's a big fight between the Amazons of Paradise Island and the (Greek) Mythic titans, which is approproately epic. I've complained about George Perez before and the same stuff still applies. He's a good storyteller but there's so much extraneous detail that I can't scan the page and figure out what's going on, and he doesn't really use different panel sizes to show the big! important! events. So you have to closely read each tiny little panel. That bugs me. I still think the Judas Contract is one of the best superhero stories ever... I think that should be in there. If you don't like George Perez, though, you probably won't necessarily agree.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 27, 2016 22:23:42 GMT -5
The Library had the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans vol. 2. So I am reading that. It's the age of total earnest-ness in superhero comics. It's enough after Stan Lee's post-modern writer-as-a-character take and before Alan Moore's more literary style, and everything is completely straightforward with no subtext or depth, and the story isn't about anything. I dunno.. Not my thing but I'm slowly getting into it. There's a big fight between the Amazons of Paradise Island and the (Greek) Mythic titans, which is approproately epic. I've complained about George Perez before and the same stuff still applies. He's a good storyteller but there's so much extraneous detail that I can't scan the page and figure out what's going on, and he doesn't really use different panel sizes to show the big! important! events. So you have to closely read each tiny little panel. That bugs me. I still think the Judas Contract is one of the best superhero stories ever... I think that should be in there. If you don't like George Perez, though, you probably won't necessarily agree. I really, really liked the Judas Contract last time I read it/last time it came out in trade. I was meaning to buy a new copy but couldn't find one for cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 4:30:00 GMT -5
wildfire, the Dr. Doom stories from Astonishing Tales, as well as the Doom story from Marvel Super-Heroes #20, are included in the Essential Super-Villain Team-Up volume. Cei-U! I summon the Latverian lout! Ahh.. that's not a bad back up... I'm going to see if I can get the actual comics.. they don't seem too expensive (less so that MMW Marvel Rarities, which seems to bottom out at about $50). Good to know! I picked up 6 of the 8 issues of Astonishing Tales that featured Doom (I had the other 2 already) in midgrade for about $2 each at a con at the end of 2013, so they are out there inexpensively if you look in the right places. -M
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 30, 2016 16:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 30, 2016 18:11:12 GMT -5
Loving the whimsical fantasy element of Excalibur. Kind of a shame how I can't get into the other X-Books aside from X-Factor and Alpha Flight (though I'm not entirely sure if the latter counts)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 21:15:08 GMT -5
Loving the whimsical fantasy element of Excalibur. Kind of a shame how I can't get into the other X-Books aside from X-Factor and Alpha Flight (though I'm not entirely sure if the latter counts) Alpha Flight is not an x-book and never was. But X-Men was the first outside team AF encountered. AF was a beautiful series when Byrne was on it.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 30, 2016 22:45:59 GMT -5
Alpha Flight is not an x-book and never was. But X-Men was the first outside team AF encountered. AF was a beautiful series when Byrne was on it. Still though, it's kind of weird that it isn't, considering that Logan/Wolverine was a apart of it and the fact that Northstar & Aurora are mutants
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 31, 2016 16:58:24 GMT -5
Also, getting back to Excalibur, I honestly can't understand why they changed Captain Britain's costume to just a full body Union Jack when the original was simple, yet eye-catching
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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 31, 2016 18:24:21 GMT -5
Also, getting back to Excalibur, I honestly can't understand why they changed Captain Britain's costume to just a full body Union Jack when the original was simple, yet eye-catching I'm a big fan of this costume. But I think it was changed because it didn't really make much sense for Captain Britain, given that the lion symbol here is the crest of England specifically and not Britain at large. "Britain" is a bit vague, as it could be referring to either the United Kingdom or Great Britain, but either way, it should also include both Scotland and Wales as well as England, and possibly Northern Ireland and the rest of the extended British Empire. The Union Jack costume isn't nearly as interesting in my opinion, but it makes more sense if the character is supposed to be Captain Britain and not Captain England.
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