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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 3, 2016 16:41:48 GMT -5
I left out Judgment Day because I thought it was terrible. I almost put Neonomicon. I haven't actually read it. My understanding is that Big Numbers was never finished. Am I incorrect? Or is the partial story just that good? The other two I have not read and will zealously track down. I'd be happy to get more short stories. I think that's my glaring lack in terms of Moore reading. I only read Pictopia recently because it was in some "Best comics of the 1980s" collection I got. Oops, sorry, I missed Boejeffries  I find Judgment Day to be spectacularly good if read in its entirety, including epilogues. It sure feature some dreadfull artwork, but Moore manages to make that part of the story itself. It's a great murder mistery that also tells a lot about the history of the comic book industry. It forecasts almos everything that the ABC line would be. Big Numbers indeed only had two issues published (plus scans of issue #3 published in a magazine), but those mere two issues are spectacular and are well worth inclusion, probably one of the top unfinished stories ever. It is a very eerie drama, and I believe quite in tone with what we know of his upcoming Jerusalem novel. It also features Bill Sienkiewicz in top form (think his Moby Dick adaptation!) and great design. Both featured 40 pages laid out in a rigid twelve-panel grid, a pattern with which Moore adresses concepts such as fractal geometry & chaos theory, showing "that patterns existing at the large scale (the effect of the town) would have existed at a micro scale (the effect on individual characters' lives)"I enjoyed Judgement day. The Liefeld art was terrible of course, but it also had Gil Kane and Jim Starlin chapters to save it. |
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Post by coke & comics on Mar 3, 2016 17:53:37 GMT -5
Rob Liefeld on Alan Moore's War Child proposal.
I always interpreted that to mean Alan's vision included people standing around with their feet flat on the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 20:32:34 GMT -5
I voted Watchmen. I remember this (& Dark Knight Returns coming out) & the buzz that these works generated at comic shops at that time. I also voted for Supreme. I thought Moore's Awesome stuff was pure fun.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 3, 2016 22:25:36 GMT -5
The fact that the five stories Moore wrote for Marvel's Star Wars series weren't included as a named choice (rather than "Other British work") is a disgrace. I shall be writing a strongly worded letter of complaint to Coke & Comics about the matter. May Brother Fivelines and the god of Ronyards rust his soul! You can only be mad at yourself : you should have given better grades to those stories in your Star Wars thread. How can you expect us to value those if the expert on Star wars rates those 5/10 or 6/10 ?  Ha! Well, to be fair, Moore's Star Wars work is pretty uneven, but the best of his stories ("The Pandora Effect" and "Rust Never Sleeps") got 8 and 8½ out of 10 ratings from me respectively. Those are some pretty good stories. But yeah, "uneven" is definitely the the word for his SW stories as a whole. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 3, 2016 22:27:32 GMT -5
You can only be mad at yourself : you should have given better grades to those stories in your Star Wars thread. How can you expect us to value those if the expert on Star wars rates those 5/10 or 6/10 ? Ha! Well, to be fair, Moore's Star Wars work is pretty uneven, but the best of his stories ("The Pandora Effect" and "Rust Never Sleeps") got 8 and 8½ out of 10 ratings from me respectively. Those are some pretty good stories. But yeah, "uneven" is definitely the the word for his SW stories as a whole. Wait! Moore wrote Star wars? Did Lei get raped? I kid. I kid.  |
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Post by Warmonger on Mar 3, 2016 22:47:13 GMT -5
Swamp Thing, hands down. Not only his greatest work, but the greatest comic run in history IMO. I like Moore's run on Swampy, but I really don't think it ranks anywhere near a lot of his earlier work. I still think most of his best stuff was created for the British market between 1982 and about 1984. I've admittedly only read maybe 5-6 issues of his Marvelman/Miracleman run (which was excellent, just judging by my limited exposure) and a very limited amount of his work on 2000 AD...but his work on Swamp Thing is absolutely MASTERFUL, IMO. I LOVE Watchmen, and even though his central premise for 'From Hell' was a tad bit goofy and far-fetched, I still enjoyed it immensely (still haven't read 'V for Vendetta'). But his Swamp Thing run just kicks it into a completely different gear for me. Almost like Shakespeare adapting a classical monster tale. And the Bissette/Totleben artwork is absolutely sublime. This is essentially the only extended run on a character that I revisit on an annual basis. Hell, sometimes I might go back and re-read it 2-3 times a year. The pinnacle for me when it comes to comics. |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Mar 3, 2016 23:19:12 GMT -5
Marvelman and Swamp-Thing for mine, though I love Watchmen and have an unholy adoration of DR and Quinch. My choices are 2 of the books that turned comics on their head for me the most, just light years ahead of most other creators at the time they came out. I haven't read the majority of his other work though, have little interest in the more indy stuff, and just wasn't around for the Americas Best runs. |
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 4, 2016 0:29:19 GMT -5
Why is life full of hard choices?
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 4, 2016 2:08:22 GMT -5
Why is life full of hard choices? To help build your moral character. |
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 4, 2016 2:50:37 GMT -5
Why is life full of hard choices? To help build your moral character. "Every time I've built character, I've regretted it." - Calvin & Hobbes
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Post by Confessor on Mar 4, 2016 6:19:22 GMT -5
Ha! Well, to be fair, Moore's Star Wars work is pretty uneven, but the best of his stories ("The Pandora Effect" and "Rust Never Sleeps") got 8 and 8½ out of 10 ratings from me respectively. Those are some pretty good stories. But yeah, "uneven" is definitely the the word for his SW stories as a whole. Wait! Moore wrote Star wars? Did Lei get raped? I kid. I kid. No, but Leia did get killed. That's right, killed. Dead. Not a dream. Pushin' up daises. Dead! It was in "Tilotny Throws a Shape" from Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Monthly #154 Of course, she gets resurrected at the story's end, but still. As a shameless piece of cross promotion, my reviews for the five Star Wars stories that Alan Moore wrote for Marvel UK in the early '80s can be found by clicking on the links below... • Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Monthly #151 (The Pandora Effect)• Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Monthly #154 (Tilotny Throws a Shape)• Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Monthly #155 (Dark Lord's Conscience)• Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Monthly #156 (Rust Never Sleeps)• Star Wars Monthly #159 (Blind Fury!) |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 4, 2016 7:55:59 GMT -5
Well played. You're the new Stan Lee. |
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Post by Confessor on Mar 4, 2016 9:21:31 GMT -5
Well played. You're the new Stan Lee. This really made me laugh. Face front and keep your lightsaber handy, true believer! |
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 4, 2016 10:23:28 GMT -5
Well played. You're the new Stan Lee. This really made me laugh. Face front and keep your lightsaber handy, true believer! Crass, shameless self promotion! You wouldn't catch me trying to push people towards my Doctor Who in Comics thread like that, even if I did cover some of Moore's more undeservedly obscure work in it. Too much class, you see!  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 4, 2016 10:25:10 GMT -5
Suddenly I feel like I'm in a shark tank. I guess shameless promotion works. |
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