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Post by Dizzy D on Mar 11, 2016 11:21:56 GMT -5
It looks slightly better in this HD picture: It looks slightly better here, but overall it still feels a little off, especially in comparison to the costumes of Captain America and Thor. I mean, it's true to the look of the comics, there's no denying that, but it looks more like a cosplayer would wear than something an actual hero would wear. Pictures! Pictures of Spider-Man!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 11, 2016 11:23:15 GMT -5
It looks slightly better in this HD picture: It looks slightly better here, but overall it still feels a little off, especially in comparison to the costumes of Captain America and Thor. I mean, it's true to the look of the comics, there's no denying that, but it looks more like a cosplayer would wear than something an actual hero would wear. Agreed. And I hate the CGI eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 12:06:34 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with the CGeyes (ho ho), and like that they're able to give him expression in the same way the comics have done for decades, but his costume did look very, very brightly coloured next to all the other characters, almost cartoony. Remains to be seen how it works in context, but I found it pretty jarring in the trailer.
Still, In Marvel We Trust!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 11, 2016 13:21:27 GMT -5
I wonder if this Spider-man will be the Raimi one, the Webb one, an altogether different one, or one who is generic enough to be either of the three depending on how we choose to interpret things (kind of how the Hulk in Avengers might be the same as in Ang Lee's film).
I mean that if Spidey's origin isn't told again and if neither Gwen nor MJ are named as his first love, the rest of what's commonly known about him (photographer, brilliant student, nephew of widowed Aunt May) is consistent enough for Marvel not to go through all the motions again.
(I admit it would be very cool if it was Miles under the mask, but I'm not holding my breath).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 14:10:18 GMT -5
It's definitely not Miles, and it's definitely not the others - this Spidey is a school-kid, circa 15 or 16 years old.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 11, 2016 15:02:24 GMT -5
It's definitely not Miles, and it's definitely not the others - this Spidey is a school-kid, circa 15 or 16 years old. That works for me as well. Easier to just start fresh. But how responsible is it for Tony to drag a child unto a battlefield? Shame on you, Tony Stark. Shame on you.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 11, 2016 15:18:47 GMT -5
It's definitely not Miles, and it's definitely not the others - this Spidey is a school-kid, circa 15 or 16 years old. That works for me as well. Easier to just start fresh. But how responsible is it for Tony to drag a child unto a battlefield? Shame on you, Tony Stark. Shame on you. And thus the higher voice...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 11, 2016 16:57:05 GMT -5
That works for me as well. Easier to just start fresh. But how responsible is it for Tony to drag a child unto a battlefield? Shame on you, Tony Stark. Shame on you. And thus the higher voice... The costume is too tight around the crotch, as we learned in an earlier movie!
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Post by Action Ace on Mar 11, 2016 18:35:12 GMT -5
I love the animated eyes and this is a very good live action costume.
This five second stretch also moves this live action version of Spider-Man above the one from the 1970s tv series.
"I can do this all day" was my favorite part of the trailer though. I hope there's enough Captain America in the film and I still have a bad feeling about the ending.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 11, 2016 22:42:49 GMT -5
How can Marvel make a lousy, overblown comic plot look like a great movie while DC takes the most iconic story they have and makes it look like crap.. really amazing. Super psyched for this to come out though I'm afraid Tony's gonna lose
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 22:58:14 GMT -5
How can Marvel make a lousy, overblown comic plot look like a great movie while DC takes the most iconic story they have and makes it look like crap.. really amazing. Super psyched for this to come out though I'm afraid Tony's gonna lose My feeling on Civil War was always that it was a good idea poorly executed by Millar who also badly mishandled the characterizations in the series. Feige and crew seem to be taking the kernel of a good idea that was there in Civil War staying true to the characters as they have developed them in the MCU and executing it well. We won't know for sure until we see the final cut of the picture, but everything looks good. DC/WB however, gives their iconic properties to creative types who are embarrassed to be doing super-hero movies and have no respect for the source material or characters and want to put their own stamp/vision on them to show they are better than that source material, so Nolan, Goyer and Snyder and their cronies can take anything and filter out anything good about it, leaving their dystopic self-loathing version of super-heroes in its place, hence the crap we get for DC movies and the truly insulting and banal comments we get from folks like Goyer when they are talking about the material Whom for all the embarrassment and loathing of comics he talks about pretty much owes his entire fricking career to them). -M
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Post by Mormel on Mar 12, 2016 0:46:40 GMT -5
While I'm not a fan of the original crossover event, I'm also not sold on this story translating well to the MCU. This is mostly because the MCU hasn't had much in the way of proper vigilantes (or secret identities) to begin with, which is what the SHRA was designed to control. In the MCU, most known superheroes were immediately drafted by S.H.I.E.L.D. after their very first superhero activities, whereas in the comics the Avengers came together by their own consent and operated with consiserable freedom while still with the gov't's blessing.
I think it can work out okay in the movie (hey, I was skeptical about DoFP and that ended up being my fav X-men movie by FAR), but still kind of odd to see such a conflict come about in a world where S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty much 'superhero employer #1'. Especially coming on top of two 'who watches the watchmen' type stories in 'Winter Soldier' and 'Age of Ultron' both of which feature a system of law enforcement becoming corrupted (S.H.I.E.L.D. taken over by Hydra and Stark/Banner's "Superjarvis" turning into Ultron).
Whoops, tangent. ON TOPIC, I was real excited to see Spidey in the trailer. I wonder how much they're gonna use him, if we'll see at least a glimpse of Peter's civilian life, etc. I like the look, the little stripe of blue where it transitions into the red of his gloves/boots, the eyes work for me.
I'm kinda hoping his introduction here in the thick of the action means that we can skip an origin story in his next solo movie, or at least reduce it to flashback. By now everyone knows how Peter becomes Spider-man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 0:54:27 GMT -5
While I'm not a fan of the original crossover event, I'm also not sold on this story translating well to the MCU. This is mostly because the MCU hasn't had much in the way of proper vigilantes (or secret identities) to begin with, which is what the SHRA was designed to control. In the MCU, most known superheroes were immediately drafted by S.H.I.E.L.D. after their very first superhero activities, whereas in the comics the Avengers came together by their own consent and operated with consiserable freedom while still with the gov't's blessing. I think it can work out okay in the movie (hey, I was skeptical about DoFP and that ended up being my fav X-men movie by FAR), but still kind of odd to see such a conflict come about in a world where S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty much 'superhero employer #1'. Especially coming on top of two 'who watches the watchmen' type stories in 'Winter Soldier' and 'Age of Ultron' both of which feature a system of law enforcement becoming corrupted (S.H.I.E.L.D. taken over by Hydra and Stark/Banner's "Superjarvis" turning into Ultron). Whoops, tangent. ON TOPIC, I was real excited to see Spidey in the trailer. I wonder how much they're gonna use him, if we'll see at least a glimpse of Peter's civilian life, etc. I like the look, the little stripe of blue where it transitions into the red of his gloves/boots, the eyes work for me. I'm kinda hoping his introduction here in the thick of the action means that we can skip an origin story in his next solo movie, or at least reduce it to flashback. By now everyone knows how Peter becomes Spider-man. Tangent: For origins like Spidey's that most people know, I'd prefer they be retold as an opening credit montage's (much like the intro box Marvel had on top of the splash page in the Bronze Age) to recap it if someone is unfamiliar with it and set the mood for the character, but not the be the story for the film (again and again and again and...) -M
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Post by String on Mar 15, 2016 20:21:07 GMT -5
It looks slightly better in this HD picture: It looks slightly better here, but overall it still feels a little off, especially in comparison to the costumes of Captain America and Thor. I mean, it's true to the look of the comics, there's no denying that, but it looks more like a cosplayer would wear than something an actual hero would wear. In that picture with those eyes, I'm reminded of an updated version of Nicholas Hammond:
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Post by Gene on Mar 15, 2016 21:42:18 GMT -5
It looks slightly better in this HD picture: It looks slightly better here, but overall it still feels a little off, especially in comparison to the costumes of Captain America and Thor. I mean, it's true to the look of the comics, there's no denying that, but it looks more like a cosplayer would wear than something an actual hero would wear. In that picture with those eyes, I'm reminded of an updated version of Nicholas Hammond: The Nicholas Hammond Spider-Man is always going to be a guilty pleasure of mine.
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