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Post by dupersuper on Apr 5, 2016 21:12:58 GMT -5
Plus, if you like the New Gods, then I would also recommend the Green Lantern/New Gods: Godhead collection. Oooo, as some one who likes the New Gods, I wouldn't. Highfather's pretty much a super villain as of the first issue... |
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Apr 5, 2016 22:26:47 GMT -5
So I just finished Darkseid War Vol. 1 and thought it was really good. It's been a few years since I've read any modern JLA, I believe the last thing I read was Final Crisis and Blackest Night/Brightest Day. But since then I've read quite a bit of 80's JLA, and more importantly I am a fan of both Crisis and New Gods and this kind of reminded me of those good ol' days. First, the art like String said is fantastic, and makes me want to seek out more of Jason Fabok's work. It was great to see Mr. Miracle, Metron, Kalibak...even the Black Racer? That was a nice surprise. Had no idea Lex Luthor is a good guy now (reminded me of Magneto's good guy phase). Batman sitting on the Mobius Chair? Are you kidding me? Loved it. Solar Energy Superman? Loved it. It does take a while to set things up, but as a returning reader I felt I needed that setup. Thanks cliffhanger ending, now I'll have to wait until part two comes out in July.
Plus, if you like the New Gods, then I would also recommend the Green Lantern/New Gods: Godhead collection. Previously, Kyle Rayner the White Lantern breached the Source Wall to save the universe. He may have also inadvertently tapped into the Life Equation. Highfather believes that the Equation, which he could use against Darksied, is contained within the combined emotional spectrum and by the different Corps. So basically New Genesis declares war on the various Corps to surrender their power and rings. It's a solid fun cosmic/space opera story that crossed over all the various GL titles at the time. Yeah! I enjoyed that aspect and like to see my heroes shaken up from time to time. Like when Wonder Woman first encounters the Anti-Monitor and looks legit shook:  Great moment. I will have to check out Godhead at some point, and thanks for the recommendation! |
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Post by String on Apr 6, 2016 18:02:03 GMT -5
Oooo, as some one who likes the New Gods, I wouldn't. Highfather's pretty much a super villain as of the first issue... A fair point but I think that was part of the premise and appeal of this type of story. How far are you willing to go to destroy your enemy without becoming like your enemy? The fact that Highfather was willing to go to these lengths is telling (plus as someone who was willing to trade his own son in order to seal a pact, I can see such a move as this by him). |
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 9, 2016 14:04:04 GMT -5
Well, I was going to stop buying back issues for a few months and only keep up on the six or seven new comics I've decided to get. But I was in Barnes and Noble, flipping through this: And I came across the Gilbert Hernandez story and - quite suddenly! - this was a must-buy! |
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Post by Spike-X on Apr 9, 2016 17:27:26 GMT -5
I think my daughter might like this. Yeah, that's the ticket...
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Post by Action Ace on Apr 9, 2016 20:00:12 GMT -5
Well, I was going to stop buying back issues for a few months and only keep up on the six or seven new comics I've decided to get. But I was in Barnes and Noble, flipping through this: That was a digital first series it went 17 issues. Volume 3 is due out in May. Another one to be on the lookout for is Wonder Woman '77 based on the tv series. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 9, 2016 22:46:09 GMT -5
I have all the Sensation Comics print run.. like Legends of the Dark Knight, it's a little hit or miss, but more hit than miss... some really cool, unique stuff. besides that one, Noelle Stephenson(I think that's her name.. the woman that does Lumberjanes) did a story as well.
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 11, 2016 9:57:52 GMT -5
I was saving the Sensation Comics TPB for a moment when I have some free time and can really relax and just read it slowly and enjoy it. It hasn't happened yet but I broke down and read the Gilbert Hernandez story. So great! I would love to see a regular comic series by Beto with Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Mary Marvel doing nothing but fighting old JLA villains. Especially Queen Bee! Have Batgirl guest-star in that one for the best comic book ever!
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 11, 2016 10:13:58 GMT -5
I went to the comic book shop in Fullerton yesterday and picked up a few things. So far I've read Black Widow #2 (I love this series so much so far!) and Catwoman #50. Catwoman is one of the current comics I've been wanting to try out but somehow I keep missing the latest issue, so #50 is the first current issue I've bought since #18. It's pretty good. It's actually quite a bit better (I thought) than it was when I dropped it.
One quibble. Selina is in prison and Szasz, Firefly and Clayface are masquerading as prison guards and they go to her cell (she's in solitary) to mess her up. And that was kind of suspenseful. Selina could take out Firefly and Szasz in a believable manner but I was on the edge of my seat wondering how she was going to deal with Clayface.
And then ...
SPOILER WARNING!
Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy show up - also masquerading as prison guards - and somehow defeat the bad guys in a single panel in a very vague manner. I know that Ivy is quite formidable but I'd sure like to know a little more about how she beat Clayface in two seconds with one of her magic creeping vines! Overall, I liked this issue a lot, but scenes like this are the reason why I can quit comics very abruptly and not feel too concerned about missing something.
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Post by String on Apr 11, 2016 16:28:18 GMT -5
I was saving the Sensation Comics TPB for a moment when I have some free time and can really relax and just read it slowly and enjoy it. It hasn't happened yet but I broke down and read the Gilbert Hernandez story. So great! I would love to see a regular comic series by Beto with Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Mary Marvel doing nothing but fighting old JLA villains. Especially Queen Bee! Have Batgirl guest-star in that one for the best comic book ever! I'd buy it.  I didn't know he created this story, art looks great as usual. It brings to mind Jamie Hernadez's recent story, Ti-Girls Adventures, where he finally does a full-on crazy superhero EPIC!  |
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Post by Spike-X on Apr 11, 2016 17:13:10 GMT -5
Ooh! I think I need to get that!
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Post by berkley on Apr 12, 2016 2:40:06 GMT -5
I was saving the Sensation Comics TPB for a moment when I have some free time and can really relax and just read it slowly and enjoy it. It hasn't happened yet but I broke down and read the Gilbert Hernandez story. So great! I would love to see a regular comic series by Beto with Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Mary Marvel doing nothing but fighting old JLA villains. Especially Queen Bee! Have Batgirl guest-star in that one for the best comic book ever! I'd buy it. I didn't know he created this story, art looks great as usual. It brings to mind Jamie Hernadez's recent story, Ti-Girls Adventures, where he finally does a full-on crazy superhero EPIC! I just finished the latest Love & Rockets New Stories and Jaime's stuff really shone, so I might read God and Science myself pretty soon since I'm now in the mood for more of his work. I read the original when it came out in L&RNS but haven't yet looked at the expanded version. |
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Post by berkley on Apr 12, 2016 2:56:56 GMT -5
Oooo, as some one who likes the New Gods, I wouldn't. Highfather's pretty much a super villain as of the first issue... A fair point but I think that was part of the premise and appeal of this type of story. How far are you willing to go to destroy your enemy without becoming like your enemy? The fact that Highfather was willing to go to these lengths is telling (plus as someone who was willing to trade his own son in order to seal a pact, I can see such a move as this by him). For me, the problem with that scenario is that Highfather already went through that crisis of conscience - or rather Izaya did. That's how Izaya became Highfather in the first place : he realised that he personally and New Genesis as a whole were starting to turn into something not unlike the Apokoliptan enemy they were fighting and he chose or found or tried to find another way. That was the point of the story titled "The Pact". So the whole idea doesn't make any sense and demonstrates once again that all too often the writers who tackle the New Gods either don't have the least understanding of the basic concept or just don't give a shit. In either case, why, as an admirer of Kirby's original, would I want to bother reading their stuff? |
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 12, 2016 9:45:31 GMT -5
A fair point but I think that was part of the premise and appeal of this type of story. How far are you willing to go to destroy your enemy without becoming like your enemy? The fact that Highfather was willing to go to these lengths is telling (plus as someone who was willing to trade his own son in order to seal a pact, I can see such a move as this by him). For me, the problem with that scenario is that Highfather already went through that crisis of conscience - or rather Izaya did. That's how Izaya became Highfather in the first place : he realised that he personally and New Genesis as a whole were starting to turn into something not unlike the Apokoliptan enemy they were fighting and he chose or found or tried to find another way. That was the point of the story titled "The Pact". So the whole idea doesn't make any sense and demonstrates once again that all too often the writers who tackle the New Gods either don't have the least understanding of the basic concept or just don't give a shit. In either case, why, as an admirer of Kirby's original, would I want to bother reading their stuff? When I started reading comics in the mid-1970s, it was several years after Kirby had quit doing the New Gods, so to me, they just seemed like any other second-tier characters bouncing around the DC Universe and appearing ever once in a while. (That's probably a big part of why I think "The Great Darkness Saga" is more than a little over-rated.) But my library got one volume of The Fourth World Omnibus series (Volume Three, I think) and I read it last year and I've completely turned around on the Fourth World characters (except for Big Barda; I've thought she was great for a long time). Now, I realize how special the Fourth World characters were. And I sort of roll my eyes whenever I come across them, even in comics I've read before that I used to not think about too much. (One big exception is the way they were used in the first few issues of the Secret Society of Super-Villains in the 1970s. I think that still works very well. Plus, there's the nostalgia factor, so I'm rationalizing a lot of stuff. I do that A LOT when I re-read SSOSV.) I have mixed feelings about the way the Fourth World was used in Wonder Woman during Azzarello's run. For one thing, Orion was just so badly written much of the time. |
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 12, 2016 20:51:03 GMT -5
For me, the problem with that scenario is that Highfather already went through that crisis of conscience - or rather Izaya did. That's how Izaya became Highfather in the first place : he realised that he personally and New Genesis as a whole were starting to turn into something not unlike the Apokoliptan enemy they were fighting and he chose or found or tried to find another way. That was the point of the story titled "The Pact". So the whole idea doesn't make any sense and demonstrates once again that all too often the writers who tackle the New Gods either don't have the least understanding of the basic concept or just don't give a shit. In either case, why, as an admirer of Kirby's original, would I want to bother reading their stuff? I've completely turned around on the Fourth World characters (except for Big Barda; I've thought she was great for a long time). You watched her porno, didn't you? |
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