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Post by shaxper on Nov 30, 2020 9:54:34 GMT -5
Ah, I just remembered how it was called the Sega Genesis in North America. Not to be biased, but I thought Sega Mega Drive sounded better. No, you're totally right. I think it might have sold better in America with that name. Such a great system, but it never garnered the same level of attention as NES and later SNES. I spent nearly a year saving up to buy an NES just when they started packaging the system with Sonic, so I went with that instead, figuring it was the future of gaming. Nope. I was the only kid I knew with a Genesis. And that definitely diminished the fun. No one to talk to about the games I was playing; no one offering recommendations and no hype about new titles. It's probably why I'm not a gamer today. I LIKE the vintage systems, but I have no passion for any of it. Back when I was 12, I so wanted to have that passion. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Nov 30, 2020 10:21:33 GMT -5
Agreed Shaxper, anything after the PS2, XBOX, and Gamecube might as well be a foreign language to me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 10:35:45 GMT -5
What I don’t like about modern video games is the DLC. And the microtransactions. It seems that completing INJUSTICE 2 unlocks me one character: Brainiac. Cool, I like him. And there are so many other great characters. But if I wanted to play as Darkseid or Mister Freeze, I’d have to buy them. It seems more and more of what you want in a game is to be found in an online shop.
So when I have the cash, I might buy a retro console.
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Post by impulse on Nov 30, 2020 11:36:04 GMT -5
I didn't actually get to play much of the NES or SNES until I stumbled across emulation. I love the NES to pieces for the sheer variety of games it had. SNES, while a fine system in it's own right, really doesn't do it for me in the same way the Genesis/Mega Drive does because it has less of the types of games that I like So the next obvious question is.. what types of games do you like? Everyone is going to go bonkers over the PS5 this holiday season, but I can't remember the last time I wasn't that hyped for a major console release. I'm a PS guy, but the launch titles just seemed meh. Perhaps it's just me getting older, and also that I still have a boatload of PS4 games to start playing. But yeah, I'd definitely wait 6 months to maybe another year when more games with development teams used to the new system are announced, and also the initial storage space upgrading for the system is resolved. Spider Man Miles Morales is the only thing that seems interesting to me at the moment. I know there was a trailer for the next FF game, but I remember it being a blur. Oh, man, if not for 2020 and increased stress and workload, I can't remember the last console launch that was more exciting than PS5 since PS2. The technical leap over PS4 is drastic compared to the previous gen, and apparently that new SSD is game-changing. Near instantaneous loading and start up from cold. Saves so much time, and Demon Souls and Miles Morales look amazing.
Plus right out of the gate with PS Plus you get access to most of the best PS4 games and I believe most perform better on PS5. If I had free time and money I'd be pretty stoked about it, except I don't buy first release of new consoles because...
I have never ever been up on the new consoles, but it seems like we're hearing more early reports about technical issues with the PS5 than has happened for any previous system. Maybe that's just my anecdotal experience. ...technical issues! I like to wait for them to work out the kinks. That said, you might be misremembering XBOX 360 and the red ring of death debacle. They replaced and repaired countless consoles no-questions-asked for years, I think it was. I can't remember if I am on my 2nd or 3rd. But yeah, this is why I tend not to buy first pass new electronics. Ah, I just remembered how it was called the Sega Genesis in North America. Not to be biased, but I thought Sega Mega Drive sounded better. No, you're totally right. I think it might have sold better in America with that name. Such a great system, but it never garnered the same level of attention as NES and later SNES. I spent nearly a year saving up to buy an NES just when they started packaging the system with Sonic, so I went with that instead, figuring it was the future of gaming. Nope. I was the only kid I knew with a Genesis. And that definitely diminished the fun. No one to talk to about the games I was playing; no one offering recommendations and no hype about new titles. It's probably why I'm not a gamer today. I LIKE the vintage systems, but I have no passion for any of it. Back when I was 12, I so wanted to have that passion. Might have just been your area? The SNES/Genesis rivalry was massive around me, and my neighborhood was split, which was great because we got to play both systems' games. Agreed Shaxper, anything after the PS2, XBOX, and Gamecube might as well be a foreign language to me It's worth learning that language now, though. The quality of gaming has gotten fantastic since then! What I don’t like about modern video games is the DLC. And the microtransactions. It seems that completing INJUSTICE 2 unlocks me one character: Brainiac. Cool, I like him. And there are so many other great characters. But if I wanted to play as Darkseid or Mister Freeze, I’d have to buy them. It seems more and more of what you want in a game is to be found in an online shop. So when I have the cash, I might buy a retro console. There is definitely a lot of that, but there are also plenty of great standalone games with excellent campaigns out of the box, or if there is DLC, it's often quality and reasonably priced. You could also just always wait until the Game of the Year edition comes out a year or so later and wait for a sale.
There is plenty of crap out there, though.
Also no reason not to also get retro stuff!
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Post by shaxper on Nov 30, 2020 12:02:43 GMT -5
Agreed Shaxper, anything after the PS2, XBOX, and Gamecube might as well be a foreign language to me Gaming just went in a very different direction:- high quality story-intensive single player games. For me, video games were a bunch of friends sitting around one tv and sharing the experience. I didn't care how sophisticated they looked. So I was excited for the N64 and the Wii because those both favored shared experience over sophistication. My soon to be step son has a Switch, and we have fun on that as well, mostly playing Minecraft. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Nov 30, 2020 12:33:35 GMT -5
I didn't actually get to play much of the NES or SNES until I stumbled across emulation. I love the NES to pieces for the sheer variety of games it had. SNES, while a fine system in it's own right, really doesn't do it for me in the same way the Genesis/Mega Drive does because it has less of the types of games that I like So the next obvious question is.. what types of games do you like? I tend to like arcade style games, beat em ups, and action games, along with the occasional shmup and platformer |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 30, 2020 13:53:58 GMT -5
On the subject of video games, unlike in other entertainment, I think they just keep getting better. I have no plans to buy the PS5 or Xbox's new console for myslef. Digital Extremes is still supporting Warframe on the Xbox1. Mostly, unlike because of glitches (I went through 3 Xbox 360 RRD and Microsoft replaced them all until the third one died, not RRD and I bought a Slim in 2010 and it's still working), but because of cash and the lack of use it would get from me. My oldest is 17 and going to college next year after he graduates, I told him if he can't concentrate on school and a job to earn money, that I'd buy it for him at least before he heads of to college so he can take it with him.
On the subject of games and tech, outside of VR, which I have no interest in I will probably stop with modern gaming. I am still playing Warframe but plan to take a break once my affinity booster runs out in my game. I'll get more into Bloodstained which I recently bought and plan to go back and play some more BotW on the Wii U. I feel like I am finding less interest in video games, and am more into the video games I already know I like. So I've kind of gotten to that age where even modern video games, like comics and music, etc don't appeal to me. Or at least they don't to the point that I want wade through a lot of stuff just to find a few gems. It doesn't seem to be worth my time and money. I figure I'll just find out through word of mouth (like I did with Bloodstained) about the quality of new games and consoles as whether to make a purchase.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 30, 2020 14:06:56 GMT -5
What I don’t like about modern video games is the DLC. And the microtransactions. It seems that completing INJUSTICE 2 unlocks me one character: Brainiac. Cool, I like him. And there are so many other great characters. But if I wanted to play as Darkseid or Mister Freeze, I’d have to buy them. It seems more and more of what you want in a game is to be found in an online shop. So when I have the cash, I might buy a retro console. Even though Warframe is the first and only, so far, free to play game I've participated in, the one thing that I do like about F2P is the game is set up to be straight up with you, for the most part, about the content of the game. Everything in Warframe, the entirety of it, can be played 100% free. Do most players get everything for free? I would imagine there's a large number of people, including my self, that have spent real world money, on in game content or items because we didn't want to do the work in game for it. For instance, over 3 years, I've probably put $100 into Warframe. Well worth my entertainment when games that don't have near the content of Warframe are $60 each. And then as you mentioned there's DLC and microtransactions. Believe me I bought lots of DLC between the life of the 360 and PS3. And while I didn't mind doing it and it was mostly on about a handful of games I spent the most on, I do get that it is a bit selfish that things as simple as skins, weapons, or additional missions can't just be put in the game in the first place. However we are dealing for profit companies, I am just a bit apathetic about it all. But for the popularity of F2P games like Warframe, Fortnight, Apex, Team Fortress 2, etc that F2P games are making their impact on gaming. And honestly I think it's a good thing. F2P forces developers to take responsibility for their game by keeping it fresh and new with content. Something that Digital Extremes has done great with in the 8 years it's been on either PC or consoles. Whereas Fortnight as popular as it peaked, my sons stopped playing it with their friends because they said it got boring because the developers never added any new content and just seemed to be riding the wave of it's popularity. I think the future for gaming with really take of in terms of quality entertainment for gamers with the rise of F2P. |
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Post by impulse on Nov 30, 2020 14:29:25 GMT -5
My interest in gaming and games has ebbed and flowed over the years. Sometimes it's good to step away and spend your time elsewhere for a while instead of forcing yourself to go back to a "leisure" activity you just aren't feeling. Eventually something might grab your attention and rekindle your interest, or you just might be ready for it again.
As someone who's been weathering baby and toddler years, sometimes I am too tired to play video games because that requires mental energy when I'd rather just watch something. There's always a chance something else will suck you back in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 16:51:44 GMT -5
Worst thing about games are unskippable cutscenes. I get that people worked on that cutscene so that I can see the sun glistening off the water while my viking's hair blows in the wind. But I bought the game so I could press X to chop some priest's head off and loot his monestary.
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 11, 2020 10:39:11 GMT -5
Found a copy of Marvel Ultimate Alliance for the PS2 at work have been playing that. It's enjoyable for what it is, though I must confess that my love for it was amplified once I found out that you can get rid of your other party members and just solo it. I did just that with Cap. Loved the Fin Fang Foom battle!
I also like the fact that each of the selectable characters level up as you do when they're not in your party, so you don't have to level grind to get them up to snuff
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 9:26:51 GMT -5
I love the Marvel Alliance games so much. I wish they weren't so on-the-rails, but other than that I thought they were pretty great.
I finally re-started Fallout 4 last month, after starting and stopping a few times in the past, as I discovered it has an easy platinum (I love trophies). I recall this game being pretty divisive, and it certainly has its share of bugs and glitches, but I must say I am loving it. The world feels big (but not too overwhelming) and open in a way few games have. And I feel like they really nailed the scarcity of resources aspect, without making it feel like "they gave me a gun but no ammo for it". The leveling and skills are also handled really well. I'm much better at lockpicking and hacking now, but it feels earned, because I hacked so many terminals and picked so many locks over the course of my game. But maybe the thing I like most is no mission feels unnaturally blocked off. I can do what I want, and I may end up doing something that costs me the ability to complete other missions, but there hasn't been that sense of "I have to do this in order to do what I'd rather be doing" I get in a lot of games.
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Post by impulse on Dec 13, 2020 15:10:19 GMT -5
I love the Marvel Alliance games so much. I wish they weren't so on-the-rails, but other than that I thought they were pretty great. I finally re-started Fallout 4 last month, after starting and stopping a few times in the past, as I discovered it has an easy platinum (I love trophies). I recall this game being pretty divisive, and it certainly has its share of bugs and glitches, but I must say I am loving it. The world feels big (but not too overwhelming) and open in a way few games have. And I feel like they really nailed the scarcity of resources aspect, without making it feel like "they gave me a gun but no ammo for it". The leveling and skills are also handled really well. I'm much better at lockpicking and hacking now, but it feels earned, because I hacked so many terminals and picked so many locks over the course of my game. But maybe the thing I like most is no mission feels unnaturally blocked off. I can do what I want, and I may end up doing something that costs me the ability to complete other missions, but there hasn't been that sense of "I have to do this in order to do what I'd rather be doing" I get in a lot of games. Yeah, it's a good game taken on its own. Most of the complaints are from how good it is as being a Fallout game as opposed to a video game. As a stand-alone post-apocalyptic shooter with RPG elements, it's pretty darn good, and I enjoyed it a lot. The shooting mechanics at least were easily the best of all of the 3D Fallout games (at the time, at least. Not sure if FO76 improved on it). Most general critiques of it as a game I've seen were that the procedurally generated mission were too repetitive and the crafting and basebuilding components could have been executed a lot better. A lot of Fallout purists criticized it for having the largest departure from Fallout's roleplaying game roots. People complcomplained that the voiced protagonist took a lot of personalization and roleplaying ability away, as did simplifying the choices available with dialogue. They said it feel a lot more linear and pre-defined than an open game with choices compared to the past. Oh, also they apparently drastically simplified the perks and leveling mechanics. Basically, the fewer RPG elements, the more the purists complain. Considering I started with FO3, I've only played the 3D ones. The actual shooting run and gun gameplay easily felt best in FO4, but I enjoyed FO3 and FO NV more overall. |
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Post by impulse on Dec 13, 2020 15:18:19 GMT -5
I just started a game in the last week that I think A LOT of you guys would enjoy. Evoland and Evoland 2. It's basically a playable adventure gaming history lesson, and the game changes graphics and playstyles as you go.
For example, you start off playing in a grayscale Gameboy type resolution, but then you unlock color! It goes all the way up and down from there to 3D stuff, and is pastiche of the major classic adventure and RPG games, borrowing lovingly and liberally from the likes of Zelda, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Secret of Mana / Crono whatever. It is very meta and breaks the fourth wall, and it's all done respectfully.
I have the legendary edition which bundles 1 and 2. 1 is VERY short (4-5 hours). Two is longer, and I am a few hours into 2. So far, I liked 1 more, but it was basically a quick tour through the best-of on those game styles. 2 seems to be more a long play game that also incorporates the same sense of history.
Anyway, I think a lot of us old-heads would like it because it both feels retro and familiar but also new and smooth and convenient and nice at the same time.
But don't take my word for it. Watch a short trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 17:28:36 GMT -5
I played a few hours of Fallout 3 and couldn't get into it. The simplified skillpoint mechanic is great, in my opinion, but I do wish you could respec. The building is really cool, but it is kinda annoying that you can't scrap everything. I get the need to limit scrapping to settlements, but it's dumb that I can completely tear down one house, but not the one next to it, or that I can't scrap a car because it stradles the scrap barrier. The dialogue options don't bother me, even though I get the complaint. It has started crashing on me, though, which is annoying.
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