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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 9, 2016 11:40:26 GMT -5
I dropped JL after the beginning because I didn't like the Bwah ha stuff and I dropped Swamp Thing after Moore left. I admit , I hung onto All Star S and Infinity Inc to see how they would resolve it. Losing the big three didn't HAVE to cripple those series. Superman and Batman, in particular, were not particularly relevant to either series, and the effect of losing Wonder Woman on Infinity Inc.'s Fury was quickly dealt with. I don't think being relocated to the same Earth as everyone elses really affected anything in those books to any significant degree. Roy Thomas did feel the Crisis hurt his books. I assume he was referring to having to dismiss the big three and having to rewrite origins. And I have to admit to not feeling the same juice for the revised book. Before the Crisis, they had Superman square off against Captain Marvel and after, I assume that it never happened. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 9, 2016 11:45:07 GMT -5
What kind of paper was the original series printed on? I might look for those if the collection messed around with the colouring, as they often do. It was a standard format comic, so newsprint, but be aware if you go for the originals, issue #7 and 8 can be a little pricey in high grade because of character deaths in those issues. -M I want to remember that they were using a new printing process on that book and that in several places the printing and particularly the coloring suffered. But I could be misremembering, it's been at least 20 years since I last read it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 11:53:20 GMT -5
Before the Crisis, they had Superman square off against Captain Marvel and after, I assume that it never happened. I still find it hard to like Shazam/Captain Marvel since I vividly remember reading All-Star Squadron #36 and #37 over and over as a small child. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 9, 2016 11:59:09 GMT -5
Before the Crisis, they had Superman square off against Captain Marvel and after, I assume that it never happened. I still find it hard to like Shazam/Captain Marvel since I vividly remember reading All-Star Squadron #36 and #37 over and over as a small child. I was never a CM fan either. Too goofy. |
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 9, 2016 13:11:42 GMT -5
And I don't think it did cripple them. Superman and Batman, in particular, were not particularly relevant to either series, and the effect of losing Wonder Woman on Infinity Inc.'s Fury was quickly dealt with. I don't think being relocated to the same Earth as everyone elses really affected anything in those books to any significant degree. Roy Thomas did feel the Crisis hurt his books. I assume he was referring to having to dismiss the big three and having to rewrite origins. And I have to admit to not feeling the same juice for the revised book. Before the Crisis, they had Superman square off against Captain Marvel and after, I assume that it never happened. Thing is, I never cared about that kind of stuff (the big fights, I mean), or about the likes of Superman or Captain Marvel. I've always been more interested in the 'smaller' characters. I was reading that book for characters like Johnny Quick, Robotman and the rest, who weren't really affected. The only time I really liked Superman was in the Mr. & Mrs. Superman series in Superman Family. |
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 9, 2016 13:12:55 GMT -5
I still find it hard to like Shazam/Captain Marvel since I vividly remember reading All-Star Squadron #36 and #37 over and over as a small child. I was never a CM fan either. Too goofy. He really was. He never seemed like a remotely believable character, pre-Crisis. |
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Post by realjla on Apr 9, 2016 14:04:34 GMT -5
The 'Billy Batson, boy newscaster' thing was even more ridiculous(even for the 1930s, never mind later, when child labor laws were actually a thing) than any of the superheroic/talking tiger/talking worm/'Captain Marvel'Jr. can't even say his own name stuff.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 9, 2016 14:09:07 GMT -5
It must have been a comic for a specific era. It never worked( IMHO) when he was purchased by DC in 1973. I know someone will bring up the Power Of Shazam mini in the 90's but that's just a speed bump in his DC comic career.
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Post by MDG on Apr 9, 2016 15:19:03 GMT -5
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Post by Trevor on Apr 9, 2016 15:37:27 GMT -5
I didn't mind it, and thought it improved things overall. DC continuity was never and never will be logical, but I just enjoy each story individually and don't sweat the details.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 9, 2016 15:38:48 GMT -5
It must have been a comic for a specific era. It never worked( IMHO) when he was purchased by DC in 1973. I know someone will bring up the Power Of Shazam mini in the 90's but that's just a speed bump in his DC comic career. was an ongoing. 47 issues, 1995-1999. The only time the character has ever been interesting. |
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Post by spoon on Apr 9, 2016 18:36:49 GMT -5
It was a standard format comic, so newsprint, but be aware if you go for the originals, issue #7 and 8 can be a little pricey in high grade because of character deaths in those issues. -M I want to remember that they were using a new printing process on that book and that in several places the printing and particularly the coloring suffered. But I could be misremembering, it's been at least 20 years since I last read it. I think the issue was the Monitor Tapes. Those were a strip of small panels on some pages that represented video depicted on the Monitor's video screens. I believe I read that those panels were done with pencils only (no inks) to give them a grainy look of a video screen. Apparently, it didn't show up as well in practice as it was supposed to go in theory. I heard that a Crisis TPB did something or other with that to help the art show up better. |
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Post by realjla on Apr 9, 2016 18:52:35 GMT -5
The first issue was printed using that 'Flexographic' process that DC touted for about 5 minutes during the mid-80s. There are some panels that look a little bit 'off', but the remainder of the series looked OK. 'The Monitor Tapes' was an oddly formatted backup story, which could have been more easily included in a few extra full pages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 19:24:37 GMT -5
I didn't care for what it did to Wonder Woman (replaced by BC in the JLA???)
but I HATED what it did to Legion (no Superboy???).
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Post by Action Ace on Apr 9, 2016 20:05:11 GMT -5
It was a standard format comic, so newsprint, but be aware if you go for the originals, issue #7 and 8 can be a little pricey in high grade because of character deaths in those issues. -M It's crazy for those 2 issues to be pricey because they're both back. And have their own tv series that crossed over and are on different networks |
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