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Post by MDG on Apr 13, 2016 7:52:00 GMT -5
That reminds me - I thought DC used its own fictional DCU cities like Gotham and Metropolis rather than NYC. Was this GL story explicitly set in NYC or did they just leave it unsaid? DC has used real cities as settings from time to time, dating all the way back to the original Manhattan-based Hawkman. The New Teen Titans and Firestorm were set in NYC; so was Wonder Woman in between long runs set in Washington DC. Post-Crisis, Mike Grell set Green Arrow in Seattle and George Perez set WW in Boston. So yeah, lots of precedents. Cei-U! I summon Rand-McNally! Though the geography between Metropolis, Gotham, and NYC always seemed shaky to me. In one 80s WF story, Gotham and Metropolis were connected by a bridge; in the Gibbons/Rude series, I think they were a two-hour train ride apart. Either way, I'm not sure where they were supposed to fit on the east coast relative to NYC. Denny O'Neil once said that Metropolis is Manhattan above 23rd street and Gotham is Manhattan below 23rd. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 13, 2016 9:00:06 GMT -5
DC has used real cities as settings from time to time, dating all the way back to the original Manhattan-based Hawkman. The New Teen Titans and Firestorm were set in NYC; so was Wonder Woman in between long runs set in Washington DC. Post-Crisis, Mike Grell set Green Arrow in Seattle and George Perez set WW in Boston. So yeah, lots of precedents. Cei-U! I summon Rand-McNally! Though the geography between Metropolis, Gotham, and NYC always seemed shaky to me. In one 80s WF story, Gotham and Metropolis were connected by a bridge; in the Gibbons/Rude series, I think they were a two-hour train ride apart. Either way, I'm not sure where they were supposed to fit on the east coast relative to NYC. Denny O'Neil once said that Metropolis is Manhattan above 23rd street and Gotham is Manhattan below 23rd. At one point, they established that Gotham was at the southern tip of New Jersey and Metropolis at the northern tip of Delaware. You could see one city from the waterfront of the other but unless you went by boat, you had to drive the long way around, Can't recall where this was established. Might've been an issue of The Amazing World of DC Comics in the mid-70s, might've been the DC tabletop game in the early '80s. Cei-U! Both, maybe? |
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 13, 2016 10:44:54 GMT -5
Though the geography between Metropolis, Gotham, and NYC always seemed shaky to me. In one 80s WF story, Gotham and Metropolis were connected by a bridge; in the Gibbons/Rude series, I think they were a two-hour train ride apart. Either way, I'm not sure where they were supposed to fit on the east coast relative to NYC. Denny O'Neil once said that Metropolis is Manhattan above 23rd street and Gotham is Manhattan below 23rd. At one point, they established that Gotham was at the southern tip of New Jersey and Metropolis at the northern tip of Delaware. You could see one city from the waterfront of the other but unless you went by boat, you had to drive the long way around, Can't recall where this was established. Might've been an issue of The Amazing World of DC Comics in the mid-70s, might've been the DC tabletop game in the early '80s. Cei-U! Both, maybe? I think you're right, Kurt; they located fictitious cities in actual states in both of those. Ivy Town was in Connecticut, (like Yale University) and Star City was in Massachusetts, IIRC. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 13, 2016 12:15:07 GMT -5
I guess Kyle Rayner lived in Greenwich Village. That reminds me - I thought DC used its own fictional DCU cities like Gotham and Metropolis rather than NYC. Was this GL story explicitly set in NYC or did they just leave it unsaid? It was specifically NYC.. Kyle moved east form LA after Alex got fridged. The Doctor Strange reference, I assume, was because they were using the same neighborhood.... didn't Marz write Strange at some point? As far as locations go... I think it's fairly well established that Metropolis is near Washington DC (though I know some have argued for it to be in the midwest) and Gotham is in New Jersey... in another thread not long ago someone posted a map pic with them being just across the bay from each other (as Cei-U said). Then there's Bludhaven... also in New Jersey. I definitely agree with Ivy town=Yale, but I'm not sure that was ever in the comic itself. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 13, 2016 15:38:00 GMT -5
Someone else probably remembers this better than I do, but Dave Sim wrote an early issue of Spawn and I remember it being just one long extended jab at Marvel.
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Post by tolworthy on Apr 13, 2016 17:47:03 GMT -5
Jack probably viewed Roy as a sycophant but the reality was that Roy worked for Stan. I wondered where Jack got the term "house Roy". I just watched a video by Malcolm X and I wonder if this is relevant? It's harsh, but I suppose satire always is. It's probably very relevant to the video that Thomas had to be in the office, but Kirby was freelance and barely came in. Freelancers get a very skewed view. Reminds me of a quote by Christopher Priest: Sorry to derail the thread again, it just seemed relevant to the previous derail |
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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 13, 2016 17:55:18 GMT -5
I wondered where Jack got the term "house Roy". I figured it was based on the somewhat archaic word "houseboy", meaning "a male domestic worker or personal assistant". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houseboy |
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Post by tolworthy on Apr 13, 2016 18:47:30 GMT -5
Yep, that makes more sense. Thanks.
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 13, 2016 19:56:05 GMT -5
Someone else probably remembers this better than I do, but Dave Sim wrote an early issue of Spawn and I remember it being just one long extended jab at Marvel. More of a jab at company owned super heroes in general...
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 13, 2016 20:44:38 GMT -5
God, I own that issue somewhere. I thought Dave Sim (who is a comics genius, in an incredibly strange way) writing superheroes could be cool.... but that doesn't look very good at all.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 13, 2016 22:03:12 GMT -5
I think that issue was written by either Dave Sim or Alan Moore.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 22:24:15 GMT -5
I think that issue was written by either Dave Sim or Alan Moore. What issue # is this? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2016 5:18:54 GMT -5
It was issue #10 written by Dave Sim.
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Post by Farrar on Apr 14, 2016 18:11:51 GMT -5
From Lois Lane #56, 1965. Written by Jerry Siegel ***   ***As Joe Carter he'd written a couple of Torch stories for Marvel in 1963  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 14, 2016 20:48:49 GMT -5
It was issue #10 written by Dave Sim. The only Image comic I ever bought (and that as a back issue!) until the 21st century. |
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