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Post by String on Apr 21, 2016 9:54:00 GMT -5
I'm not at all up to date on all the current or 'fad' TV shows but could you provide any examples of shows that the creators you've mentioned having worked on or for? The only prominent creator that I can think of immediately that made a successful jump to TV is Brian K Vaughn. Video game design may be a possibility. The best example that comes to mind is Joe Mad(ureira). He's made quite the impact (and money) from the Darksiders' growing franchise. I subscribe to both Warren Ellis's weekly newsletter (Orbital Operations) and the Fraction/DeConnick newsletter (Milkfed Criminal Masterminds) where they all talk about their upcoming projects in television, that they cannot name yet because the studios haven't okayed the publicity. Brubaker talks about television panels in the letters pages of his books, intros of trades and in Image panels form cons that are on youtube links if you want to subscribe to newsletters... Orbital OperationsMilkfed Criminal Mastermindsand more successful in TV than BKV is of course Robert Kirkman... oh and Hunters which just premiered on SyFy is something Warren Ellis helped develop/worked on... -M Oh, okay thanks for the heads-up and links. Yeah, I would say Kirkman has been the most successful. I keep overlooking/forgetting him though because I have zero interest in zombies.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 21, 2016 13:28:17 GMT -5
His work on Invincible and Tech Jacket have seemed to rub a lot of people the right way who really don't care much for Zombies (though, to be totally honest, I still think that his work on Marvel Zombies was pretty damned admirable), but this isn't to say that they're necessarily for everyone
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 15:07:06 GMT -5
His work on Invincible and Tech Jacket have seemed to rub a lot of people the right way who really don't care much for Zombies (though, to be totally honest, I still think that his work on Marvel Zombies was pretty damned admirable), but this isn't to say that they're necessarily for everyone The only thing from Kirkman I have liked is Outcast, which is also headed to television. I had enough of Walking Dead after reading the first omnibus, and pretty much felt the Adlard art (and the Moore art before it) was the the only thing it really had going for it. Of course I also think the Azaceta art is the best thing Outcast has going for it as well. -M
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Post by urrutiap on Apr 28, 2016 18:40:40 GMT -5
Yes theres going to be a major crash in the comic book industry maybe in 2017 or 2018.
Reasons why
Comics just arent as fun as they used to be back in the 1980s and 1990s
Sony, Fox, Disney and Marvel. They're all in a piss war contest whatever concerning Inhumans being the new thing, X Men comics being all screwy now, and Fantastic Four no more or whatever is going on.
Plus theres been way too much of new trade paperbacks that have less content such as only 6 issues in just one frikkin trade paperback. Not even worth wasting money on if a newer trade paperback has only 6 issues
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 19:13:02 GMT -5
Yes theres going to be a major crash in the comic book industry maybe in 2017 or 2018. Reasons why Comics just arent as fun as they used to be back in the 1980s and 1990s Sony, Fox, Disney and Marvel. They're all in a piss war contest whatever concerning Inhumans being the new thing, X Men comics being all screwy now, and Fantastic Four no more or whatever is going on. Plus theres been way too much of new trade paperbacks that have less content such as only 6 issues in just one frikkin trade paperback. Not even worth wasting money on if a newer trade paperback has only 6 issues Yet in the 80s and 90s when trades were first becoming part of the landscape of comics, many only collected 4 issues. Most were collections of mini series of story arcs which average 4 issues at the time. Longer trades were the result of more decompression and taking more issues to tell 1 story and the 6 issue arc became the norm and the average length of trades. And its still the norm. Longer trades are usually deluxe editions combining the content of 2 or more trades and double dipping form the audience or collections of long out of print material that has a smaller audience so offers larger batches of content at higher prices to get economy of scale to work somewhat in their favor to make them profitable. -M
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 28, 2016 19:18:14 GMT -5
Yes theres going to be a major crash in the comic book industry maybe in 2017 or 2018. Reasons why Comics just arent as fun as they used to be back in the 1980s and 1990s Eh, I think Cursed Pirate Girl, Polly and the Pirates, Chew, Squirrel Girl, the Goon, Lumberjanes, and Silver Surfer are more fun than Images Comic's DeathDeathBloodGrimDeath. ' Or anything published by Marvel in the '90s, for that matter.
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Post by urrutiap on Apr 28, 2016 19:23:12 GMT -5
Sorry but Squirrel Girl is whats ruining Marvel comics.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 28, 2016 19:45:13 GMT -5
Sorry but Squirrel Girl is whats ruining Marvel comics. You grew up in the Rob Leifeld era, huh? I am sorry about that. I grant you it's not a blood drenched, clenched sphincter attempt to be "badass" with an eighty pound woman carrying a 100 pound gun... But it's a quitely very smart comic that emphasizes positivity and fun.... And stresses the value of consensus building over senseless violence. If not catering to low iq adolescents is what's killing comics, than please stick a fork in 'em. It's really the only mainstream comic I've ever read (and I have read several comics) that deals with problem solving in a way that has actual real world applications... It's trying to be GOOD for the audience, not just brain dead entertainment. And it seems to be actively trying to get (GASP! SHOCK! HORROR!) w-o-m-e-n (and girls!) to read it. Compare that to the '80s and '90s when the female characters were idotic Jim Lee "legs are 80% of the body" anatomical impossibilities. And it's doing stuff with formal storytelling that I've never seen done in comics before. While most mainstream comics (from any era) follow a set, simple formula, the latest Squirrel Girl is a choose-your-own adventure. Plus it's funny as hell, and often very, very smart, cheerfully dissecting and commenting on the absurdity of superheroes. This is the first mainstream comic to do nerdy science jokes since Julie Schwartz. Plus it has Swarm in the latest issue. If you can not get behind a comic with a Nazi made of bees in it, I am sorry. You are a failure at life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 19:51:16 GMT -5
Plus it has Swarm in the latest issue. If you can not get behind a comic with a Nazi made of bees in it, I am sorry. You are a failure at life. That quote right there is signature material! -M
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 28, 2016 19:55:22 GMT -5
Comics just arent as fun as they used to be back in the 1980s and 1990s Look, I'm not going to lie, I was barely aware of the comic book industry in the 1990's and I certainly wasn't alive in the 1980's to see the direct market boom. But let's face facts here, comics in the 90's weren't so much about "fun" as they were about oversaturation and profiteering that almost led to the industry collapsing in on itself. It was an era of "style over substance" and "embodying the absolute extreme machismo" where story didn't matter so much as an "in your face" attitude and "dynamic" action & panel structure. So please save us all your "rose tinted nostalgia appeal" because it's not working on anyone else but you Sorry but Squirrel Girl is whats ruining Marvel comics If there's anything ruining the industry, it's the constant insistence of hiring mediocre talent off of tumblr and letting them draw what can be loosely described as "art" for five dollar monthly books
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 28, 2016 20:07:32 GMT -5
Sorry but Squirrel Girl is whats ruining Marvel comics If there's anything ruining the industry, it's the constant insistence of hiring mediocre talent off of tumblr and letting them draw what can be loosely described as "art" for five dollar monthly books. Is there really anyone in the industry doing more than two monthly books anymore? Hats off to them!
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 28, 2016 20:24:21 GMT -5
Yes theres going to be a major crash in the comic book industry maybe in 2017 or 2018. Reasons why Comics just arent as fun as they used to be back in the 1980s and 1990s You may be projecting...
Also, remember you posted this when we hit 2019.
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 28, 2016 20:24:39 GMT -5
Sorry but Squirrel Girl is whats ruining Marvel comics. .....Come again?
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Post by urrutiap on Apr 28, 2016 20:28:15 GMT -5
No I didnt grow up in the Rob Liefield days.
I grew up in the early 1980s where I was a little kid that was hooked on the cool stuff such as Power Pack, Groo, Alpha Flight, Uncanny X-Men, Elfquest.
the 1990s I was still into Uncanny X-Men and bits and pieces of Amazing SpiderMan and Sensational Spider-Man and Wolverine series Volume 2.
By the way, Swarm was introduced in Sensational Spider-Man long before Swarm showed up in stupid Squirrel Girl comic
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 20:38:53 GMT -5
No I didnt grow up in the Rob Liefield days. I grew up in the early 1980s where I was a little kid that was hooked on the cool stuff such as Power Pack, Groo, Alpha Flight, Uncanny X-Men, Elfquest. the 1990s I was still into Uncanny X-Men and bits and pieces of Amazing SpiderMan and Sensational Spider-Man and Wolverine series Volume 2. By the way, Swarm was introduced in Sensational Spider-Man long before Swarm showed up in stupid Squirrel Girl comic No Swarm was introduced in the Champions back in the 70s long before he showed up in Sensational Spider-Man. -M
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