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Post by berkley on Jun 15, 2020 16:11:40 GMT -5
Why is Black Canary beating up Taskmaster?
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Post by The Captain on Jun 15, 2020 16:20:59 GMT -5
It's diversity simply for the sake of diversity...which I'm really getting sick of. It's just variety to goose interest. Have Rhodey be Iron Man for a while. Have Jane be Thor for a while. Have Falcon be Cap for a while. Have Wolverine be old for a while. Have Ororo be a kid for a while. Have Bruce Wayne not be Batman for a while. "Female version" is just another temporary scheme that can lead to a Grand Return for the other character, unless sales are so good as to justify making it permanent. How much spaghetti will stick to the wall? In the interest of humility, I have read the entire "Jane as Thor" run, and I was wrong. It was really good and made sense as a concept. |
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Post by rberman on Jun 15, 2020 18:27:25 GMT -5
Why is Black Canary beating up Taskmaster? They do look similar, don't they! This 1978 issue of JLA predates the Taskmaster's first appearance in Avengers #195 by two years. That in turn predated the first appearance of Deathstroke the Terminator in New Teen Titans #1 by six months. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 15, 2020 21:41:49 GMT -5
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Post by berkley on Jun 15, 2020 23:28:43 GMT -5
the hood + skull-mask is what made me think of the joke, though I see the DC character also has the cloak, gloves, and swash-buvkler boots. None of those features is uncommon in the superhero/villain world but the combination of three or four of them in one character slightly less so.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jun 17, 2020 12:20:54 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned the whole idea behind X-Factor? Nobody needed that mag, but it made sense to exploit the X-franchise. What does it matter if it required destroying the character of Scott Summers, negating all the emotional investment in Jean Grey's death, invalidating the very positive message that life goes on after the loss of a loved one, that the whole concept of mutant rescuers posing as mutant hunters is grotesque and that the book itself was pretty ordinary? Chris Claremont's careful work on the mutant titles was sabotaged right there, but I'd argue that the entire world of mainstream American comics was as well.
I agree. I thought the idea of bringing Jean back was terrible - the original X-Men were among Marvel's lower selling titles (that sold well enough to continue for a while at any rate). It was the New X-Men who had the fan base, not the original team. It was the beginning of the end of my dropping Marvel entirely.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jun 17, 2020 12:22:12 GMT -5
In Watchmen, Moore made a humorous comment about what you call editorial sabotage (and downright creation/plotting). There is one super-hero, member of the 1st squad, who was sponsored by corporations - a Dollar Bill. Moore made him utterly incompetent, pompous, over the top-costume, mentally meek, overall ridicules. The thing is, if you leave to editors, execs or accountants to initiate, write or influence the story you default to what is a comic-book equivalent of Joel Schumacher's Batman & Robin (or a Dollar Bill LOL). That's a norm. When they put a spandex on Jonah Hex (the laser gun in his hand, futuristic vehicle instead of the horse), after previously altering the character - a classic case.
I don't feel like we read the same book. Dollar Bill only appears in the background, but the series portrays him as a good, conscientious guy, who was killed because of the corporation's insistence in his wearing a cape.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jun 17, 2020 12:23:14 GMT -5
It's just variety to goose interest. Have Rhodey be Iron Man for a while. Have Jane be Thor for a while. Have Falcon be Cap for a while. Have Wolverine be old for a while. Have Ororo be a kid for a while. Have Bruce Wayne not be Batman for a while. "Female version" is just another temporary scheme that can lead to a Grand Return for the other character, unless sales are so good as to justify making it permanent. How much spaghetti will stick to the wall? In the interest of humility, I have read the entire "Jane as Thor" run, and I was wrong. It was really good and made sense as a concept.
My resistance was based solely on the fact that Thor is a name, not a title - but when I thought about it, we already had a whole Thor Corps, so why not have one of them be female?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 17, 2020 12:32:38 GMT -5
It's just variety to goose interest. Have Rhodey be Iron Man for a while. Have Jane be Thor for a while. Have Falcon be Cap for a while. Have Wolverine be old for a while. Have Ororo be a kid for a while. Have Bruce Wayne not be Batman for a while. "Female version" is just another temporary scheme that can lead to a Grand Return for the other character, unless sales are so good as to justify making it permanent. How much spaghetti will stick to the wall? In the interest of humility, I have read the entire "Jane as Thor" run, and I was wrong. It was really good and made sense as a concept. Nobody is thor about it. I'll see myself out. |
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Post by brutalis on Jun 17, 2020 13:20:00 GMT -5
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jun 22, 2020 11:27:08 GMT -5
Not as bad as Gaiman's "YOU'RE Thor? I'm so thore I can hardly PITH!"
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 22, 2020 13:21:01 GMT -5
Not as bad as Gaiman's "YOU'RE Thor? I'm so thore I can hardly PITH!" It's easier if you have a pith helmet. |
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Post by brutalis on Jun 22, 2020 16:20:41 GMT -5
Not as bad as Gaiman's "YOU'RE Thor? I'm so thore I can hardly PITH!" It's easier if you have a pith helmet. Better to be pithed off than pithed on eh? Or in the case of a pith helmet it might be the reverse? |
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