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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jun 8, 2016 10:59:57 GMT -5
Should we call Deadpool a genre now? So you may have heard about this new Gwenpool comic that came out recently. Gwen Stacy in a pink Deadpool outfit, with no powers and no idea what she's doing, fighting crime. I saw the first issue at my LCS and flipped through it. Lots of cutesy Gurihiru art. Great artist, it's just not for me. I talked to the owner of my LCS about this comic, and he told me that not only is the issue hot, but issue #2 already sold out. He tells me it's not only hot with his regular subscribers, but with young women as well. In fact, he's never seen so many girls into comics lately (not just this comic), which I think is GREAT. So, while I don't exactly understand the appeal of Gwenpool (my God, I must be getting old aren't I), I'm very happy to hear that there seems to be a new generation of comic lovers out there. Also, before you buy this for your daughters...it is violent, (lots of cute squid thingys die and M.O.D.O.K. does something very bad) so I would say maybe 16+ would be a good target age for this just be forewarned.  |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 8, 2016 11:06:00 GMT -5
Is it more violent then an episode of Ren and Stimpy?
My take on whatever deadpool : if the issue is written by a writer I look forward, I'll buy it. If the artist is a fan favorite of mine, it might also do the trick, other than that, as with any current Marvel books, I have zero interest in it. But I'm sure that if I had nothing else to casualy read, I'd find that Gwenpool comic far more enjoyable then any avengers or X-Men current book.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jun 8, 2016 11:18:25 GMT -5
Is it more violent then an episode of Ren and Stimpy? I'd say so. If I go into detail I'd be spoiling the comic, so I'll just mention one example: Gwenpool taking a selfie with a decapitated squid head with a sword stuck in it. I know it's a just a squidman, but it does make me wonder if the comic plans to go all out, ala Merc With A Mouth. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 8, 2016 11:48:11 GMT -5
Is it more violent then an episode of Ren and Stimpy? I'd say so. If I go into detail I'd be spoiling the comic, so I'll just mention one example: Gwenpool taking a selfie with a decapitated squid head with a sword stuck in it. I know it's a just a squidman, but it does make me wonder if the comic plans to go all out, ala Merc With A Mouth. Oh come on, so it was kind of cutsey, even in an absurd way. Ren and Stimpy was muc more violent and disturbing then that and was the number one cartoon with kids in usa for at least a good 3years. I mean, some violenceploitation goes with the territory of comics. Why would girls be excluded from it? My little stistar had her room filed with a mixture of girly pictures and Conan/Die Hard/Nick Cage posters before she was 11, and her favorite anime was Fist of The North Star. Woman may even be able to handle violence better then men : hell, they are subjected to it much more then us. I get your point though, I'm just thinking let's not be oversensitive : there's this other thread (SMH) where males discuss what level of on-woman violence is intolerable amongst other thing. How about we let them decide the level that is tolerable as well?  |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 8, 2016 11:48:48 GMT -5
Especially since it seem extremly cartoony and not taking itself seriously at all.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jun 8, 2016 12:22:49 GMT -5
I'd say so. If I go into detail I'd be spoiling the comic, so I'll just mention one example: Gwenpool taking a selfie with a decapitated squid head with a sword stuck in it. I know it's a just a squidman, but it does make me wonder if the comic plans to go all out, ala Merc With A Mouth. I'm just thinking let's not be oversensitive : there's this other thread (SMH) where males discuss what level of on-woman violence is intolerable amongst other thing. How about we let them decide the level that is tolerable as well? I don't think I'm being oversensitive by putting out a recommended age level, c'mon seriously? My daughters are 8 and 5, and before I glanced through it I considered getting this for them. I didn't feel it was appropriate for their age yet. That's all. But that's just me, if you want to give it to an 11-year old go for it. I know there are several members here that have young daughters just as I do, so I thought it was worth mentioning. The cutesy violence thing really plays second fiddle to the fact of the matter. But if it's something you guys feel is worth discussing, by all means have at it. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 8, 2016 12:30:45 GMT -5
I'm just thinking let's not be oversensitive : there's this other thread (SMH) where males discuss what level of on-woman violence is intolerable amongst other thing. How about we let them decide the level that is tolerable as well? I don't think I'm being oversensitive by putting out a recommended age level, c'mon seriously? My daughters are 8 and 5, and before I glanced through it I considered getting this for them. I didn't feel it was appropriate for their age yet. That's all. But that's just me, if you want to give it to an 11-year old go for it. I know there are several members here that have young daughters just as I do, so I thought it was worth mentioning. The cutesy violence thing really plays second fiddle to the fact of the matter. But if it's something you guys feel is worth discussing, by all means have at it. I only mean that I doubt most of us reading comics when we were 8 would have shyed away from that kind of violence, quite the opposite actually. That is why I find that argument a little over-sensitive. But hey, you're right! : you're the dad, it's good you get involved in this. Just wanted to say all kids need some transgression, and to find it in comic books is the best way I know  And I simply find cartoonish violence with those clean pastel colors far from disturbing. I find lots of stuff happening in Adventure Time more disturbing then that. But it's all good as long as there's no sadism or overly grim stuff. Most mature reader comics of the 90ies were the only ones worth a dime. What is the official definition of Mature readures age level wise? |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 8, 2016 15:11:14 GMT -5
I haven't read it, nor do I plan to. I'm not a fan of the current incarnation of Deadpool, so it has that as strike one against it in my book, and this just smacks as a way to create what is essentially Marvel's version of Harley Quinn, another character I have absolutely no use for.
As for the violence, my older daughter (currently 10 1/2) read the entire Harry Potter series before she was done with second grade and currently reads as much Silver and Bronze Age Marvel as she can get her hands on, so she's accustomed to more mature themes in her literature. I'd let her read it if she wanted to, but luckily for me, she has better taste than a Deadpool/Harley Quinn mash-up.
As for my 8 year-old, she's still reading My Little Pony, so I'll think we'll be sticking with that a while longer.
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Post by Warmonger on Jun 8, 2016 15:23:35 GMT -5
Not something I'm interested in, but like Brian said, I think it's cool that it's getting more kids and especially young girls into comic books.
Also, I know Deadpool is frowned upon by many comics enthusiasts, but I still consider the Joe Kelly run from the mid-late 90's to be one of the better comic runs of that era. Just the right amount of slapstick and over the top violence, before he was essentially turned into a Bugs Bunny from hell.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 8, 2016 15:53:52 GMT -5
Bugs Bunny from hell... I guess Elmer already felt like that was the case, aint it so? I would gladly read that book though.
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Post by Gene on Jun 8, 2016 16:51:06 GMT -5
It's not for me, but I don't think every comic needs to be. If it's getting those always mysterious "new readers" into the hobby, then that's great. If those newbies fall out of the regular demographic for a superhero comic, then that's even better.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 21:28:10 GMT -5
I heard through my Comic Book Store it is a rage for young girls ages 9 to 13 and they are selling like crazy!
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Post by Spike-X on Jun 9, 2016 5:17:07 GMT -5
It's a bit o' fun, innit?
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Post by String on Jun 9, 2016 9:21:08 GMT -5
That's great if it's bringing in new and/or younger readers, sometimes I think that's a demographic that the Big Two have overlooked quite a bit recently in their mad rush to produce the next BIGGEST event.
While the idea of Deadpool becoming a genre unto himself worries me (hate the character), I'm more puzzled by all this recent hype/interest/portrayals of Gwen Stacy. Spider-Gwen, Gwenpool, she's made a major comeback for someone who's dead. (Although if you go by possible spoilers for the upcoming 'Dead No More' event in the Spider-titles, this may change as well)
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Post by Dizzy D on Jun 10, 2016 5:15:38 GMT -5
Note for people reading this thread: Gwenpool (as in the character that appears in these comics) is not Gwen Stacy. The first sketches were for Gwen Stacy as Deadpool (there was a line of images with Gwen Stacy as different characters), but the character in the series is a different girl.
Haven't been reading it really, but if people like it more power to them.
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