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Post by DubipR on Jul 29, 2014 8:30:20 GMT -5
I liked Zero Hour's tie ins and the Armagededdon 2001 Annuals. Millennium and Genesis would be the two I least want to read again. Has anyone mentioned Countdown yet? Or am I the only person in the forum that will admit to reading it. I mentioned it in passing when I referred to Adam Beechen as a writer. For a series that Didio had announced as "52 done right", it could hardly have missed more opportunities or been have more ill conceived. Adam Beechen was a horrid writer. His run on Robin was aweful, as was Bill Willingham. Even though people loved the idea as Stephanie Brown as Robin (I didn't mind), the execution of his arcs were so stupid. Also Damon Scott's graphitti-like artwork didn't sell the book that much better. There's also this:  Holy Terror would've work better with Batman, as planned.
*crickets*
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 29, 2014 8:32:24 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed the Uber-arc with Hope as the Mutant Messiah, and the X-Men on Utopia.
I thought Hope was an intriguing character (still do) that the writers just don't know what to do with.. I think the main problem is they STILL haven't really defined her powers, so no one knows how to use her. I really liked the Cable series that featured him Raising Hope through the dark Future Bishop created, as well as Remender's X-Force.
House of M itself was OK... most elseworlds-type stories has some redeeming qualities, and some clunkers... House of M was no exception.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 29, 2014 8:34:35 GMT -5
Bill Willingham wrote something that wasn't good? I can't imagine that. I've never really read any Robin solo stuff, that makes me want to check it out just to see if I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 9:02:02 GMT -5
You never know what might happen, I guess, when highly thought of creators step outside their comfort zones. I haven't read it, but Willingham's Robin was indeed pretty widely panned, IIRC. From most accounts, Terry Moore's take on Runaways (which again I haven't read, though I do own it) was remarkably poor. Etc.
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 29, 2014 11:15:59 GMT -5
You never know what might happen, I guess, when highly thought of creators step outside their comfort zones. I haven't read it, but Willingham's Robin was indeed pretty widely panned, IIRC. From most accounts, Terry Moore's take on Runaways (which again I haven't read, though I do own it) was remarkably poor. Etc. Willingham's run on Robin was pretty terrible, though I think it may have had to do with with editorial mandates like the War Games arc. |
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Post by the4thpip on Jul 29, 2014 13:34:08 GMT -5
I found Willingham pretty average on Justice Society and Shadowpact.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 13:57:15 GMT -5
No mentions of Amazons Attack? I presume that's because everybody had better sense (me included) than to read it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 14:11:22 GMT -5
My pick? McFarlane Spidey was crawling my blood in the 90s but the only thing worse was the clone wars debacle in that decade. I began to drop all Spidey titles in the early to latter 90s and retire to the safety of the John Romita and Ross Andru years...which also had a Spidey clone in ish #149 but at least it was easier to follow
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 29, 2014 14:46:26 GMT -5
Glad to see you back, Jez!
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Post by paulie on Jul 29, 2014 16:28:27 GMT -5
My pick? McFarlane Spidey was crawling my blood in the 90s but the only thing worse was the clone wars debacle in that decade. I began to drop all Spidey titles in the early to latter 90s and retire to the safety of the John Romita and Ross Andru years...which also had a Spidey clone in ish #149 but at least it was easier to follow I remember all the hype about the McFarlane Spidey series. And then the scripts and the plots barely made sense. I was soon reading DC exclusively for the first time in my life with the Triangle Supes, Ostrander Hawkworld, Morrison Doom Patrol, the 5 Years Later Legion and the Wolfman/Grummett Titans all proving quite enjoyable.
I guess I can thank Todd for that?
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Post by Action Ace on Jul 29, 2014 17:16:27 GMT -5
I mentioned it in passing when I referred to Adam Beechen as a writer. For a series that Didio had announced as "52 done right", it could hardly have missed more opportunities or been have more ill conceived. Adam Beechen was a horrid writer. His run on Robin was aweful, as was Bill Willingham. Even though people loved the idea as Stephanie Brown as Robin (I didn't mind), the execution of his arcs were so stupid. Also Damon Scott's graphitti-like artwork didn't sell the book that much better.
I liked Adam Beechen on Robin. He was my second favorite writer on the title after Chuck Dixon. I also liked him on Justice League Adventures. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jul 29, 2014 17:19:53 GMT -5
No mentions of Amazons Attack? I presume that's because everybody had better sense (me included) than to read it. Horrible story, but Pete Woods made it very nice to look at. It also had this...  |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 29, 2014 19:03:09 GMT -5
No mentions of Amazons Attack? I presume that's because everybody had better sense (me included) than to read it. Horrible story, but Pete Woods made it very nice to look at. It also had this... As someone who is deadly allergic to bee stings, I completely sympathize with Batman's terror in that panel. |
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Post by coveredinbees on Jul 30, 2014 0:24:07 GMT -5
I love that panel. Amazons Attack wasn't even funny. It was confusing.
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Post by foxley on Aug 15, 2014 22:31:35 GMT -5
Minor thread necromancy.
I've never read this storyline, so perhaps someone who has could confirm if it as bad as the summaries that I have read online make it out to be. Did Reginald Hudlin do a storyline in Black Panther where it is revealed that Wakanda has had a cure for cancer for centuries but refuses to share it with the rest of the world because it would be used to save white people from dying?
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