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Post by masterofquackfu on Jul 12, 2016 8:03:53 GMT -5
Well, even though I am not really a fan of Marvel these days(I think they've gotten too arrogant and aren't the same company they used to be), I guess I would consider myself as a "Marvel guy" because I grew up with their characters(and vice versa). As far as DC, I could never get into them. The only comic of theirs that I really liked back in the day was the All-Star Squadron. That has pretty much been it. I've probably read less than 50 books in my entire life(and I'm an older guy). Superman? Not interesting. Batman? Not really that interesting...a bit, but not really compelling enough. DC also had the "childish" theme attached to their books, so I found the stories a bit hokey and the characters a bit less developed than Marvel. Sometimes I wonder if I should have paid more attention to DC and given it a chance. I think the last DC comic I read was in 2005 when I bought a few issues when I was in Guam. The newer Marvel books at the time were dreck and I wanted some comics, so I bought Flash, Wonder Woman, etc. Decent reads, but never made much of an impact...never made me want to buy any more issues or titles. And, frankly, Marvel just has such a superior amount of material, that it is hard for me to find ONE good reason to give DC a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 8:25:14 GMT -5
When, I was younger I was more into DC Comics because of my fondness of both Justice League and the Justice Society of America because their Superheroes are more heroic than their Marvel Counterparts. When, I got around my teen age years - I learned the value of the Fantastic Four, X-Men, Daredevil, and others and Marvel made them more believable than the DC Comics counterparts.
Right Now, I'm not into DC and Marvel Comics and now I'm more into Dynamite Entertainment because they have more than I bargain for and I'm not a fan of DC Rebirth and Marvel Now ... both of them aren't my cup of tea.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 12, 2016 8:43:23 GMT -5
Growing up i was a Marvel fan as most of the circle-k and 7-11's carried more Marvel than DC on their stands. So that became the standard as to what i would go for over the years. Marvel always the 1st choice and DC 2nd until the 90's when they switched places with each other. These days i have moved into the independent realm as i rarely pick up any Marvel or DC on a regular basis as none of their comics appeal to me anymore in writing or characterization. At least i have my collection of what i consider to be the good stuff to read over and over.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 12, 2016 9:08:30 GMT -5
I don't particularly like what either are doing right now. A big part of the fun for me is strong stories + good continuity and respect for history. I don't see much of that anymore.
I've always been a Marvel guy, but I've always been a big fan of Batman and to a lesser extent Superman and Wonder Woman. Only recently have I become interested in Pre-Crisis DC. Still, the cohesiveness of Silver and Bronze age Marvel, in particular, is something that I enjoy far more than the Earth 1, 2, etc, stuff. That said, I think DC's Rebirth is headed in the right direction while Marvel is producing, for the most part, a mess of chaotic crap with no direction and no cohesiveness.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 12, 2016 9:20:12 GMT -5
I'm Robert the Unconquered's DC alternate. Substitute DC or DC term for Marvel or Marvel term. I grew up reading, and enjoying, both. Crisis moved me more towards DC and over the years I was mostly DC and less and less Marvel as continuity faded, characters were inconsistent, artists and writers (some) during the 90's were truly horrible, Marvel's stand on creator rights and returned artwork, Joe Quesada and Bill Jemas taking cheap shots at DC, and finally, the nail in the coffin, Disney buying and bloating the concept while jacking up the price and adding new character I care nothing about. Like Robert, I enjoy my back issues of Marvel. My DC purchases are still extremely strong, though I buy tons of indies, and I always have. masterofquackfu, DC has Vertigo, which itself is amazing. I highly recommend looking at that imprint if you haven't already. VERTIGO Post-Crisis on Infinite Earths, DC's quality pulled ahead of Marvel, for the most part, and had some real changers including Dark Knight, All Star Superman, Watchmen, Sandman, Preacher, the Authority, and others.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 12, 2016 9:43:33 GMT -5
I agree that DC pulled ahead of Marvel quality wise around 1987. Marvel, from 1977-1984, probably produced the most consistently great mainstream superhero material ever published: Miller's DD, Claremont/Byrne X-Men, Simonson's Thor, Byrne's FF, Stern's Avengers/Spider-Man/Cap etc.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 12, 2016 10:56:24 GMT -5
I've never found DC's superhero work to be particularly compelling. They have cool characters, but something usually feels lacking in the stories to me.
But their non-superhero stuff is excellent. Romance, War, Western, Horror, Fantasy, the whole Vertigo line, lots of really good stuff on the fringes from DC.
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 12, 2016 11:47:58 GMT -5
I don't particularly like what either are doing right now. A big part of the fun for me is strong stories + good continuity and respect for history. I don't see much of that anymore. I've always been a Marvel guy, but I've always been a big fan of Batman and to a lesser extent Superman and Wonder Woman. Only recently have I become interested in Pre-Crisis DC. Still, the cohesiveness of Silver and Bronze age Marvel, in particular, is something that I enjoy far more than the Earth 1, 2, etc, stuff. That said, I think DC's Rebirth is headed in the right direction while Marvel is producing, for the most part, a mess of chaotic crap with no direction and no cohesiveness. I couldn't agree more! It was Marvel's near seamless continuity and sense of a shared universe that made me a fan in the 70s, and DC's lengthy history, particularly with the Golden Age characters, that later drew me to them, albeit in a smaller way. Nowadays, nobody at either company seems to really care much about what was published last week, let alone years ago, so I find it very difficult to get invested in the stories a lot of the time. I gave up on DC compltely for almost five years after the 2011 reboot, and while I'm hoping Rebirth will correct some of the damage, I'm not hugely optimistic.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 12, 2016 12:36:28 GMT -5
I read both. Probably more DC because I generally preferred their characters and they had by far the better non-superhero books.
I really never understood reading one company to the exclusion of the other, though. Good books are good books. I don't read Simon & Shuster to the exclusion of Random House.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 15:11:29 GMT -5
I read both. Probably more DC because I generally preferred their characters and they had by far the better non-superhero books. I really never understood reading one company to the exclusion of the other, though. Good books are good books. I don't read Simon & Shuster to the exclusion of Random House. I totally agree with this post. I feel the same way.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 12, 2016 15:19:32 GMT -5
I think the reason I am in a similar boat is because of the rogues gallery that Marvel has amassed. Hands down, best villains around. This keeps the stories compelling and it seems that 90% of their villains are at the least, visually appealing. To me, you cannot compare Lex Luthor to Kingpin, Joker to Green Goblin or Darkseid to Thanos. Marvel has the best! There are periods of DC heroes I enjoy (like Adams era and 80's Batman and some Green Arrow) but on the flip side, I have zero interest in Superman, JLA, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman and Flash. Why? Their rogues suck IMO. When your best villain is a carbon copy of you with "evil" powers, that lack creativity in my opinion.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 12, 2016 15:21:47 GMT -5
I dont actively try to avoid DC. I just find that the time period I like (60s-80s), I am more drawn to Marvel books. Artistically I feel they are stronger. I am not a huge Swan or Infantino fan (I appreciate what they did respectively but there is a simplicity to their artwork at times that I just cannot fall in love with). Same goes for many other artist who worked on DC through these ages.
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 12, 2016 15:39:30 GMT -5
Oh, come on! Surely everybody loves the Reverse Flash, don't they? I mean, he's like the Flash, but reversed!
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 12, 2016 16:20:44 GMT -5
Oh, come on! Surely everybody loves the Reverse Flash, don't they? I mean, he's like the Flash, but reversed!Just like everyone loved The Red Hulk cuz he was ....um... red And don't you just loved the Ultimate clones because, besides being Ultimate. they were left handed instead of right handed. Genius, pure genius!!!
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Post by foxley on Jul 12, 2016 17:47:22 GMT -5
I've always been more a DC fan. Especially growing up, I found their characters more engaging and a hell of a lot less whiny. I wanted to read about heroes being heroic, not telling me how tough it is to have superpowers and live in a mansion and hang out with your fellow mutants most of whom look like supermodels. And then Marvel's most popular character became a the completely unlikable Wolverine, who's major shtick is that he kills people. No thanks, I prefer more heroism in my heroes.
DC's characters just always engaged my imagination a lot more.
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