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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 16:13:34 GMT -5
So, as the forum's resident aficionado of all things Whovian, what are your thoughts on the Doctor becoming a female? And, how is it going down with Who fandom generally, as far as you can see? I hated the idea at first, but now that it's happening I can't help thinking it might open up some interesting new avenues for the show. We'll see. As for the rest of fandom, I think "massively divided" sums it up best. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, most of the older fans on the more militant sites seem to be absolutely livid and threatening to boycott the show, but then, they've mostly been absolutely livid since at least 2010, sometimes 2005, and in a few cases 1981, so... And based on some comments I've seen across the 'net, there also seems to be people who will now either start watching the show or return to watching it, now that the Doctor is female. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 16, 2017 17:00:01 GMT -5
Well, I just showed the reveal to my daughter Emma, and she is massively excited, not just because it's a woman but because this will be the first Doctor she sees from the start (she started watching Capaldi halfway through his run, and has gone back and watched all of Smith and part of Tennant). As for the choice of it being a woman,my take on it is if they can tell good stories, the Doctor can be a potted plant for all I care. The folks who insist the Doctor has to be a man and who are going to boycott because of this may be missing great TV because of their small-mindedness, and that is too bad for them and for the industry overall. I myself am looking forward to this, as well as Moffat leaving, because while I loved Tennant and Smith, Capaldi left me a little cold to the series. I'm looking forward to Moffat leaving too, he started out alright when he came on but he was pretty stale these last few years and I think that ruined Capaldi's run which is a shame as I thought he was fantastic in the episodes where he had good writers. As for the new Doctor I have to say I'm pretty optimistic, it's a bold move and I hope it opens up the show for a new generation. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 16, 2017 17:36:28 GMT -5
And...as usual...the announcement brings out the absolute worst in both sides of the "issue."
I think I'll die of not surprise.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 16, 2017 18:01:09 GMT -5
I've never , ever watched a Dr. Who episode. Maybe now I will.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 16, 2017 18:13:09 GMT -5
I've never , ever watched a Dr. Who episode. Maybe now I will. When it's good, it's very, very good and when it's not it's usually "just okay" for just about any other show. As long as you get the premise( The Doctor is a time traveling alien) you can jump in where ever. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 16, 2017 19:42:08 GMT -5
Well, I just showed the reveal to my daughter Emma, and she is massively excited, not just because it's a woman but because this will be the first Doctor she sees from the start (she started watching Capaldi halfway through his run, and has gone back and watched all of Smith and part of Tennant). As for the choice of it being a woman,my take on it is if they can tell good stories, the Doctor can be a potted plant for all I care. The folks who insist the Doctor has to be a man and who are going to boycott because of this may be missing great TV because of their small-mindedness, and that is too bad for them and for the industry overall. I myself am looking forward to this, as well as Moffat leaving, because while I loved Tennant and Smith, Capaldi left me a little cold to the series. I'm looking forward to Moffat leaving too, he started out alright when he came on but he was pretty stale these last few years and I think that ruined Capaldi's run which is a shame as I thought he was fantastic in the episodes where he had good writers. As for the new Doctor I have to say I'm pretty optimistic, it's a bold move and I hope it opens up the show for a new generation. I thought Capaldi's second and third seasons were fantastic, personally, the best the show has been in decades. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 16, 2017 19:53:42 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to Moffat leaving too, he started out alright when he came on but he was pretty stale these last few years and I think that ruined Capaldi's run which is a shame as I thought he was fantastic in the episodes where he had good writers. As for the new Doctor I have to say I'm pretty optimistic, it's a bold move and I hope it opens up the show for a new generation. I thought Capaldi's second and third seasons were fantastic, personally, the best the show has been in decades. There were certainly some really great episodes but by and large I felt the over-arching stories weren't that satisfying which bogged them down in my mind. |
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Jul 16, 2017 19:53:57 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the new series. I started watching when the 12th Doctor began (I've also seen parts of the series with the 9th, 10th, and 11th Doctors), and I liked that version of the character, but I eventually stopped watching because of poor writing. But Broadchurch is an excellent show, so I'm very excited that one of the creators will be taking over Doctor Who.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 16, 2017 22:37:38 GMT -5
Well, I just showed the reveal to my daughter Emma, and she is massively excited, not just because it's a woman but because this will be the first Doctor she sees from the start (she started watching Capaldi halfway through his run, and has gone back and watched all of Smith and part of Tennant). As for the choice of it being a woman,my take on it is if they can tell good stories, the Doctor can be a potted plant for all I care. The folks who insist the Doctor has to be a man and who are going to boycott because of this may be missing great TV because of their small-mindedness, and that is too bad for them and for the industry overall. I myself am looking forward to this, as well as Moffat leaving, because while I loved Tennant and Smith, Capaldi left me a little cold to the series. This is about my opinion too... as summed up best by this comment I found: When talking about who ruined Doctor Who, "women" is the weirdest way of spelling "Stephen Moffat" I've ever seen. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 16, 2017 23:52:38 GMT -5
And...as usual...the announcement brings out the absolute worst in both sides of the "issue." I think I'll die of not surprise. No, it brings out 'the absolute worst in both sides of the "issue."' by knee jerk w_a_k-tastic sjws and easily-aggravated fap-boys. The bulk of the Whovian demographic is 10 times wider than either of those and will always be more important. Whinging sjw's and fap-boys are equally useless sides of the same Janus Coin. If, as the Show is always capable of doing, the SCI FI aspect of the doctor being a female this time around is the focus, vs the garbage 'flippity-flappity-handed-faux-twink-fappage-twappage' of the Matt Smith Era, which was merely enacted to suck up to pseudo sjw whinging, then this new Incarnation will be GRANDE, welcomed, well-written, necessary, and a credit to all Who-Verse material from its onset/inception. If it's just philospophical sjw-fappage, it'll be GARBAGE. It'll be the nauseating Whovian equivalent of Lost Girl, vs Penny Dreadful. If the show embraces all the 'gedner is nothing to an evolving species which is multi-millions-of-years-old, and the mind is all that matters', (and sjw sewage is mindless), then it'll be one of the brightest jewels in the DW crown. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 17, 2017 0:23:34 GMT -5
Well, I just showed the reveal to my daughter Emma, and she is massively excited, not just because it's a woman but because this will be the first Doctor she sees from the start (she started watching Capaldi halfway through his run, and has gone back and watched all of Smith and part of Tennant). As for the choice of it being a woman,my take on it is if they can tell good stories, the Doctor can be a potted plant for all I care. The folks who insist the Doctor has to be a man and who are going to boycott because of this may be missing great TV because of their small-mindedness, and that is too bad for them and for the industry overall. I myself am looking forward to this, as well as Moffat leaving, because while I loved Tennant and Smith, Capaldi left me a little cold to the series. This is about my opinion too... as summed up best by this comment I found: When talking about who ruined Doctor Who, "women" is the weirdest way of spelling "Stephen Moffat" I've ever seen. Steven Moffat didn't ruin Doctor Who, he rescued it from the drivel it had become under Russell T Davies. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 17, 2017 2:00:17 GMT -5
This is about my opinion too... as summed up best by this comment I found: When talking about who ruined Doctor Who, "women" is the weirdest way of spelling "Stephen Moffat" I've ever seen. Steven Moffat didn't ruin Doctor Who, he rescued it from the drivel it had become under Russell T Davies. both Moffat and Davies equally excelled at progressing and helped the series, and both dragged it down via catering to sjw garbage, on occasion. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 17, 2017 2:26:42 GMT -5
Steven Moffat didn't ruin Doctor Who, he rescued it from the drivel it had become under Russell T Davies. both Moffat and Davies equally excelled at progressing and helped the series, and both dragged it down via catering to sjw garbage, on occasion. I'm still not sure what that even means... |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 17, 2017 7:05:03 GMT -5
Much like Sherlock, Moffat was good for a while, but clearly ran out of ideas.. he should have left 2 seasons ago, IMO... the few episodes I've watched in the Capaldi era were either boring or downright bad.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 17, 2017 7:44:56 GMT -5
(...) 'flippity-flappity-handed-faux-twink-fappage-twappage' I can always count on you to make me burst out laughing with your colourful expressions, loatheswareluvskane. On a Monday morning it is much appreciated. |
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