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Post by tingramretro on Aug 2, 2016 2:36:06 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed most of the New Universe stuff at the time and have revisited it more than once and enjoyed it every time. Yes, there were a couple of duds in there-Kickers Inc and Spitfire in particular never really worked for me-but DP7, Starbrand and Psi-Force I all thought were very good books, and the others weren't bad, either. I think the problems came when they just lost their sense of direction. Towards the end, most of the characters that fans had become fond of had been inexplicably sidelined and nobody really seemed sure where the books were heading or why. Still, I was sorry to see the line end and pleased when Mark Gruenwald eventually brought the characters back in Quasar in the early 90s.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 9:37:31 GMT -5
Same as Slam Bradley - I never, ever heard of Marvel's New Universe at all.
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 2, 2016 15:26:19 GMT -5
Same as Slam Bradley - I never, ever heard of Marvel's New Universe at all. Um...how? |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 2, 2016 16:32:26 GMT -5
Same as Slam Bradley - I never, ever heard of Marvel's New Universe at all. Um...how? To be clear...I never said I hadn't heard of them...not sure how you could have missed them if you were reading comics at the time. I've just never read any of them. |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Aug 2, 2016 16:54:57 GMT -5
I never got interested in any of them, though man do I wish Warren Ellis' newuniversal had continued.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 18:38:30 GMT -5
Same as Slam Bradley - I never, ever heard of Marvel's New Universe at all. Um...how? My answer is still a same as Slam Bradley! Sorry! |
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Post by Confessor on Aug 2, 2016 19:46:02 GMT -5
I liked Justice A LOT back in the day and I still have all 32 issues of the series in my collection. I wasn't at all interested in any of the other New Universe books though. I think it was mostly how cool looking (and I mean "cool" circa 1986) the lead character of Tensen was that attracted me to the book. Plus, I thought his light "Sword" and "Shield" were pretty neat powers.
The series started off very strong, but quickly took a left-turn into Bobby Ewing, "it was all a dream" territory. There were also some very weird issues drawn by Keith Giffen, which I hated back in the day. However, on a semi-recent re-read I actually really loved the weirdness of those Giffen drawn issues, but, yeah...as a kid, I did not like them at all. The issues that tied-in with "The Pitt" event, in which Pittsburgh got nuked, were enjoyable enough, but yeah...my overwhelming recollection of Justice was that it was a bit of a mess, but a mess that I enjoyed following back in the day and which is still somewhat close to my heart.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 16:00:30 GMT -5
I bought several of the first issues when NU started. I vaguely recall that I liked DP 7, but overall I have little memory of the content. Wasn't the plan to have all of the NU characters age naturally as the years went by?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 6, 2016 16:05:46 GMT -5
I bought several of the first issues when NU started. I vaguely recall that I liked DP 7, but overall I have little memory of the content. Wasn't the plan to have all of the NU characters age naturally as the years went by? The plan was for it to sell well enough to last for years |
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Post by ArizonaTeach on Dec 7, 2016 17:09:31 GMT -5
I had every issue of NU...all the way through The War. It was...momentum, really. I do think it got a lot of fun after The Pitt, and the actual physical comics themselves got better (I believe they went direct, better paper and stock, and had a more unified look and backups). I think it was my first real taste of John Byrne revisionism when he took over Star Brand and Everything You Knew Was Wrong! The War is balls to the walls insanity, with Ayatollah Khomeini and Reagan being paranormals. Oh man, good times. I was so excited when they popped up in Quasar.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 7, 2016 17:27:45 GMT -5
I wasn't reading Marvel at the time (Classic X-Men was the only Marvel book I bought, from that time-frame, in the latter half of the 80s); but, I picked up one or two of them, skimmed through them, and put them back. They did nothing for me. Later on, at the suggestion of my then-brother-in-law, I tried DP7. It was okay; but, not earthshattering. It was easy to see the influence of it on Harbinger, and that the whole initial Valiant line was Shooter's response to the failure of it.
I still don't buy Shooter's explanations for what went wrong. I think a lot of it was due to too much of his theories/dictates on how stories are told, leading it to be a bland cookie-cutter imprint, even paler than the bland Marvel Universe of the same period. All it did was emphasize how Marvel had long since stopped being the House of Ideas, especially when you put it up against what was going on at DC and in the independents. How do you compare Star Brand with Miracleman, or Nexus? It just didn't have that kind of impact.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 19:39:38 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed most of the New Universe stuff at the time and have revisited it more than once and enjoyed it every time. Yes, there were a couple of duds in there- Kickers Inc and Spitfire in particular never really worked for me-but DP7, Starbrand and Psi-Force I all thought were very good books, and the others weren't bad, either. I think the problems came when they just lost their sense of direction. Towards the end, most of the characters that fans had become fond of had been inexplicably sidelined and nobody really seemed sure where the books were heading or why. Still, I was sorry to see the line end and pleased when Mark Gruenwald eventually brought the characters back in Quasar in the early 90s. Great to see a fellow New Universe fan! I love the New Universe, so much so that I had a New Universe website for awhile. I regret letting that go. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 19:41:39 GMT -5
Wasn't the plan to have all of the NU characters age naturally as the years went by? Yes. Marketed as "The World Outside Your Window", one aspect of the original plan was that characters would age in real time. |
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Post by hondobrode on May 27, 2017 22:18:07 GMT -5
Yes, that's the exact verbage Shooter used in an interview I read back in the day in CBG.
I remember being kind of excited but apprehensive as well.
The only ones I have I picked up out of morbid curiosity later as none of them struck me as all that great except maybe Star Brand, but I didn't buy it.
It's obvious these ideas were carried over to early Valiant, and with great effect.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 23:28:04 GMT -5
Yes, that's the exact verbage Shooter used in an interview I read back in the day in CBG. I remember being kind of excited but apprehensive as well. The only ones I have I picked up out of morbid curiosity later as none of them struck me as all that great except maybe Star Brand, but I didn't buy it. It's obvious these ideas were carried over to early Valiant, and with great effect. Yes, these ideas were carried over to Valiant. I read an interview wherein Shooter said basically they were doing the same stuff at Valiant as with the New Universe. |
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