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Post by tingramretro on Aug 11, 2016 2:28:58 GMT -5
2000 Ad and other UK comics like Warrior were real rare to find at all in the 80s. I remember a buddy of mine finding some issues at a con and being wow here they are...a rare find. People like Alan Moore and Brian Bolland were known by comic readers in the US from Camelot 3000 and Swamp Thing, so when Miracleman and those Eagle Dredd reprints came out, deep comic fans were looking them up. Huh. I'd never actually considered that might be the case; I've always been so used to seeing those as manstream titles, I suppose I haven't really stopped to think that back when imported American comics were readily available in high street newsagents here along with all the home produced material, it probably didn't work the same way with British comics abroad. Do many US comic shops carry 2000 AD now? Or any other imported material? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 2:36:49 GMT -5
2000 Ad and other UK comics like Warrior were real rare to find at all in the 80s. I remember a buddy of mine finding some issues at a con and being wow here they are...a rare find. People like Alan Moore and Brian Bolland were known by comic readers in the US from Camelot 3000 and Swamp Thing, so when Miracleman and those Eagle Dredd reprints came out, deep comic fans were looking them up. Huh. I'd never actually considered that might be the case; I've always been so used to seeing those as manstream titles, I suppose I haven't really stopped to think that back when imported American comics were readily available in high street newsagents here along with all the home produced material, it probably didn't work the same way with British comics abroad. Do many US comic shops carry 2000 AD now? Or any other imported material? The only issues of 2000AD I have seen in shops around here (there's about 12-15 I check out on occasion between the Dayon and Columbus metro areas) for years are the few FCBD issues they did. Pretty much all the shops order 2000AD for pulls only around here with zero shelf copies available because there is very little demand. A few will have Dredd collections in trade, but nobody carries 2000AD for sale on the racks. -M |
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Post by earl on Aug 12, 2016 0:00:16 GMT -5
You can get 2000 AD on pull lists at probably any decent comic shop and I wouldn't doubt that some of the big urban shops might carry it on the shelf, but I never see copies. You see the trades some, but not much. I had a couple of the Rebellion Dredd Case Files and couldn't really get any of the others from my local shop and the couple I had were pretty darn expensive. I eventually found them on Ebay and Amazon and have picked up bunches of 2000 AD reprint material that way.
I'd say for US comic fans, even ones that love many of the UK writers and artists that came out of that comic scene, their UK work in 2000 AD and others is somewhat unknown. You see it all the time in the US website comic lists that rare to NEVER acknowledge stuff like Dredd in 'best of 80s' lists when if you know the material, it really should be at the top.
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 12, 2016 23:39:05 GMT -5
Guess what ?
DC's numbers beat out Marvel last month with Rebirth driving it home.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:49:19 GMT -5
Guess what ? DC's numbers beat out Marvel last month with Rebirth driving it home. They did the same for the first 6-8 months of the new52, the news would have been if they didn't beat out Marvel with the Rebirth launch. The test for Rebirth is not the initial sales but if it is still selling 6 months (12 issues) and 1 year (24 issues in). If it accomplishes that, Rebirth could be termed a success, until then, it is just another publishing initiative sales spike like every other one under the Didio/Johns/Lee regime that hasn't been sustainable for any length of time. They are real good at getting sales spikes but haven't been able to maintain the sales once they got those spikes, so time will tell. -M |
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Post by rom on Sept 13, 2016 12:39:28 GMT -5
As a comic collector off & on since I was a little kid in the very late '70's, I would have to say that DC started to eclipse Marvel re: content (though not necessarily in sales) in the early '80's, around the time the direct market comic stores started to get popular.
DC's '80's output was, overall, incredibly good: The superb maxi series Crisis on Infinite Earths; Camelot 3000; Gene Colan's run on Batman (among other great Batman artist/writer runs); Jemm Son of Saturn; Omega Men; Warlord (started in the '70's, but continued well into the '80's); Atari Force; Arak Son of Thunder; the Spanner's Galaxy mini; This Barren Earth mini-series; Nathaniel Dusk mini-series; Night Force; re-vamped Wonder Woman by Perez; Firestorm the Nuclear Man; Green Arrow: the Longbow Hunters mini; New Teen Titans by Perez & Wolfman; Arion Lord of Atlantis; Amethyst; Byrne's Superman; Batman: Year one; Batman: The Dark Knight Returns; Ronin; Watchmen; all of their various graphic novels, etc. I could go on, but you get the picture.
Over at Marvel, they had some great stuff as well: Frank Miller's DD & even many of the subsequent DD writers/artists, Moon Knight by Sienciewicz & Moench; the Gene Day drawn-issues of Master of Kung Fu in the early '80's; Uncanny X-men; The sci-fi/fantasy "Crossroads" storyline in Incredible Hulk; Walt Simonson's Thor; John Byrne's Fantastic Four. And, some of their licensed material was excellent, and even better than their original super-hero comics in some cases - i.e. ROM, Micronauts, Star Wars, etc.
However, I didn't like the Secret Wars maxi-series (weak), and also didn't like the subsequent black costume storylines in Spider-man. I didn't like the "Intelligent" Hulk storyline, either.
And, overall I felt DC's comics (especially the new series that came out with within that decade) were much more original & innovative than Marvel's output during that same time period.
In the '90's, DC continued their great output with the various Vertigo series (Sandman, Preacher, Black Orchid, etc.) and their revamping of Superman (Death & life of Superman) and Batman (Knightfall; Knightsquest; Knightsend).
Conversely, I completely ignored Marvel comics in the '90's. I felt their re-vamping of X-men/ Spider-Man & the accompanying variant covers to be a gimmick & cash-grab, and that turned me off to collecting any of these issues.
I have bought very few new Marvel or DC comics since the '90's, since all I buy these days are primarily collected editions. So, I can't speak to the post-1990's Marvel/DC series. |
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