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Post by shaxper on Dec 22, 2015 14:43:00 GMT -5
He USED to... before Disney bought Marvel... you'll note he now only wears DC t-shirts, and the don't go to the comic book store where there can be Marvel comics in the background... that kinda annoyed me. Maybe I'm projecting too much corporate-ness into a silly sitcom, though. Sheldon was always more of a DC fan, but I wouldn't be surprised if what you're saying is true all the same. |
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 22, 2015 17:51:37 GMT -5
Still, Into Darkness isn't nearly as bad as The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That... is an almost vacuous statement. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 22, 2015 18:01:22 GMT -5
Still, Into Darkness isn't nearly as bad as The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That... is an almost vacuous statement. There were a few things I liked about Into Darkness. I can't say the same for LXG. Into Darkness was really dumb and kind of boring at the end. But it didn't make me mad. |
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 22, 2015 23:46:59 GMT -5
He USED to... before Disney bought Marvel... you'll note he now only wears DC t-shirts, and the don't go to the comic book store where there can be Marvel comics in the background... that kinda annoyed me. Maybe I'm projecting too much corporate-ness into a silly sitcom, though. The props are pretty much all DC (I believe it's a Warner show), but they talk about Marvel super heroes plenty. |
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 22, 2015 23:47:58 GMT -5
That... is an almost vacuous statement. There were a few things I liked about Into Darkness. I can't say the same for LXG. Into Darkness was really dumb and kind of boring at the end. But it didn't make me mad. Into Darkness made me madder than LoEG, though I hadn't read the book first. |
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 24, 2015 12:59:16 GMT -5
I haven't read this whole thread, but has anyone read any of the new Star Trek series from IDW ? It looks pretty darn good.
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 25, 2015 4:41:28 GMT -5
I have, they're pretty good. The multi-part Q story was great (though it left me with a question or 2).
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Dec 26, 2015 11:43:10 GMT -5
Yeah. I only read the Q story, but seeing Kirk and Sisko meet was awesome.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 26, 2015 15:12:31 GMT -5
He USED to... before Disney bought Marvel... you'll note he now only wears DC t-shirts, and the don't go to the comic book store where there can be Marvel comics in the background... that kinda annoyed me. Maybe I'm projecting too much corporate-ness into a silly sitcom, though. The props are pretty much all DC (I believe it's a Warner show), but they talk about Marvel super heroes plenty. Are you sure? I can't recall them mentioning anything about Marvel in a LONG time. @ Shax: You're right, they did always do more DC than Marvel, but it got pretty glaring the last couple seasons, IMO. I don't think they'd even do the Stan Lee episode now. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 26, 2015 15:13:43 GMT -5
I haven't read this whole thread, but has anyone read any of the new Star Trek series from IDW ? It looks pretty darn good. I agree with Dupersuper the Q story was great. when they're not tying into the movies directly it's usually good.. I decided it wasn't $4 an issue worth of good, but I'd definitely get it in a discounted trade or dollar bin. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 29, 2015 17:19:25 GMT -5
The trailer for Star Trek Beyond has one thing that annoys the heck out of me: scenes of the Enterprise being blown to increasingly smaller bits... again. I suppose this will be a case of "not quite so badly blown up as you think" or "this involves time travel so the ship will be back by story's end", but I don't really care... my point is that there's very little drama or interest left in seeing the Enterprise taking a beating. I'd much rather see it kick ass!
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Post by Randle-El on Jan 27, 2016 23:24:06 GMT -5
I recently finished my rewatch of the entire run of TNG. It's been at least a good 5-6 years since I watched any TNG, so it was long enough that I gained some new perspectives on the show after not having seen it in a while. Definitely had a lot of fun re-watching some old favorite episodes, gaining a new appreciation for episodes that I didn't previously enjoy as much, and even realizing that quite a few episodes were actually pretty "bad" in the sense of being poorly written or having massive plot holes, but still enjoying them anyway. Some of the highlights:
1) "The Royale" (the one where the away team is trapped in a casino): From season 2, before TNG really found it's footing, but it's one of my go-to "guilty pleasure" episodes. It's a pretty silly episode, but it has a certain charm to it. How can you argue with an episode that features Data winning at craps and buying the casino with the winnings in order to escape? Pure gold.
2) "The Measure of a Man" (the one where the question of Data's sentience is put on trial): Another second season episode, I love this episode because it gets at the heart of what makes Star Trek work. It tackles a philosophical issue that appears to have little bearing to our circumstances (whether an artificially intelligent machine can be sentient), but is actually sci-fi window dressing for a deeper issue that is very much relevant to us -- our habit of dehumanizing a group as a first step towards inevitable oppression.
3) The Klingon politics episodes: As I mentioned in a previous post, I never enjoyed these episodes as a kid, but as an adult I have a new appreciation for them. It was also one of the first attempts in Star Trek at an ongoing, multi-episodic story arc.
4) "The Most Toys" (the one where Data is captured by a collector of exotic items): A solid episode, but it's the ending that makes it work for me. Data is confronting the villain Kivas Fajo, who taunts him that his programming will not allow him to kill. Data seemingly looks ready to fire a killing shot when he is transported away by the Enterprise. When Riker asks him about a weapon that appeared to be discharging during transport, Data simply says that it must have malfunctioned. On the one hand, we know Data's programming prevents him from killing or lying, but the ambiguity makes us wonder if Data has developed the ability to overcome his programmed limitations.
5) "The Inner Light" (the one where Picard lives an entire life through an alien probe): Quite possibly, Star Trek's finest moment.
6) "Frame of Mind" (the one where Riker is in an asylum and thinks his life on the Enterprise is a delusion): This is a great example of Star Trek cross-pollinating with other genres -- in this case, psychological thriller. Even though you know Riker is not crazy and the Enterprise is real, they do a convincing job of selling you on the idea that maybe, just maybe, he really is crazy.
7) "Lower Decks" (the one where the bridge crew takes a backseat to the junior officers): Another episode that I didn't fully appreciate upon first viewing, I gained a new appreciation for this one, mainly due to the performance from the actress portraying Ensign Sito. There's a part of you that wants her character to come back from the mission alive because the character is so likable, but that likability is precisely what makes her death more impactful.
What are you some of your favorite episodes of TNG?
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 1, 2016 18:24:53 GMT -5
I recently finished my rewatch of the entire run of TNG. It's been at least a good 5-6 years since I watched any TNG, so it was long enough that I gained some new perspectives on the show after not having seen it in a while. Definitely had a lot of fun re-watching some old favorite episodes, gaining a new appreciation for episodes that I didn't previously enjoy as much, and even realizing that quite a few episodes were actually pretty "bad" in the sense of being poorly written or having massive plot holes, but still enjoying them anyway. Some of the highlights: 1) "The Royale" (the one where the away team is trapped in a casino): From season 2, before TNG really found it's footing, but it's one of my go-to "guilty pleasure" episodes. It's a pretty silly episode, but it has a certain charm to it. How can you argue with an episode that features Data winning at craps and buying the casino with the winnings in order to escape? Pure gold. 2) "The Measure of a Man" (the one where the question of Data's sentience is put on trial): Another second season episode, I love this episode because it gets at the heart of what makes Star Trek work. It tackles a philosophical issue that appears to have little bearing to our circumstances (whether an artificially intelligent machine can be sentient), but is actually sci-fi window dressing for a deeper issue that is very much relevant to us -- our habit of dehumanizing a group as a first step towards inevitable oppression. 3) The Klingon politics episodes: As I mentioned in a previous post, I never enjoyed these episodes as a kid, but as an adult I have a new appreciation for them. It was also one of the first attempts in Star Trek at an ongoing, multi-episodic story arc. 4) "The Most Toys" (the one where Data is captured by a collector of exotic items): A solid episode, but it's the ending that makes it work for me. Data is confronting the villain Kivas Fajo, who taunts him that his programming will not allow him to kill. Data seemingly looks ready to fire a killing shot when he is transported away by the Enterprise. When Riker asks him about a weapon that appeared to be discharging during transport, Data simply says that it must have malfunctioned. On the one hand, we know Data's programming prevents him from killing or lying, but the ambiguity makes us wonder if Data has developed the ability to overcome his programmed limitations. 5) "The Inner Light" (the one where Picard lives an entire life through an alien probe): Quite possibly, Star Trek's finest moment. 6) "Frame of Mind" (the one where Riker is in an asylum and thinks his life on the Enterprise is a delusion): This is a great example of Star Trek cross-pollinating with other genres -- in this case, psychological thriller. Even though you know Riker is not crazy and the Enterprise is real, they do a convincing job of selling you on the idea that maybe, just maybe, he really is crazy. 7) "Lower Decks" (the one where the bridge crew takes a backseat to the junior officers): Another episode that I didn't fully appreciate upon first viewing, I gained a new appreciation for this one, mainly due to the performance from the actress portraying Ensign Sito. There's a part of you that wants her character to come back from the mission alive because the character is so likable, but that likability is precisely what makes her death more impactful. What are you some of your favorite episodes of TNG? Apart from some of those you just mentioned: The Best of Both Worlds parts 1 and 2, Family, Drumhead, Encounter at Farpoint, All Good Things, Yesterdays Enterprise, Qpid, First Contact, I Borg, Where Silence Has Lease, Hollow Pursuits, The Defector and the one with Geordi and a Romulan stuck on a planet all come to mind. I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 1, 2016 18:43:01 GMT -5
I think Measure of a Man is my favorite... that's the sort of thing Trek is all about.
I do love Q, any of his episodes make me happy. I think my favorite was when he did the 'It's a Wonderful Life' thing with Picard.
I agree Inner Light was good, but there are better Picard focused ones. The one where he it trapped on the surface of a planet with the alien that speaks in metaphors is a personal favorite... and the one where he gets tortured by Cardassians is amazing.
The Klingon stuff was good, but I felt like it often came up a bit short.
I know they got carried away eventually, but the Data-as-Holmes Holodeck episodes were great, IMO.
I always enjoyed the poker games and Troi's mom as well.
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Post by Randle-El on Feb 3, 2016 11:28:09 GMT -5
Apart from some of those you just mentioned: The Best of Both Worlds parts 1 and 2, Family, Drumhead, Encounter at Farpoint, All Good Things, Yesterdays Enterprise, Qpid, First Contact, I Borg, Where Silence Has Lease, Hollow Pursuits, The Defector and the one with Geordi and a Romulan stuck on a planet all come to mind. I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple. Yup, most of those are ones I quite enjoyed as well. BOBW I left out because that's one of those episodes that's always mentioned on favorite lists, so I feel like it gets a lot of accolades already, kinda like how Dark Knight Returns always gets mentioned on a list of best Batman stories. "Where Silence Has Lease" was another season 2 episode that I quite enjoyed, and gets my nod for "Best Redshirt Death EVER!". On the other hand, I remember being quite disappointed with "All Good Things..." It was kinda neat seeing a possible future for the Enterprise-D gang, and having Picard finally join his crew in their poker game was a nice touch. But the way everyone just went along with Picard's crazy insistence on going to the Devron system in both the past and future timelines seemed far fetched. Especially for the past timeline, where the crew barely knows Picard and has no reason to trust him, yet all it takes is a nice little pep talk from Picard to get them to basically sacrifice their lives for no apparent reason whatsoever. I think Measure of a Man is my favorite... that's the sort of thing Trek is all about. I do love Q, any of his episodes make me happy. I think my favorite was when he did the 'It's a Wonderful Life' thing with Picard. I agree Inner Light was good, but there are better Picard focused ones. The one where he it trapped on the surface of a planet with the alien that speaks in metaphors is a personal favorite... and the one where he gets tortured by Cardassians is amazing. The Klingon stuff was good, but I felt like it often came up a bit short. I know they got carried away eventually, but the Data-as-Holmes Holodeck episodes were great, IMO. I always enjoyed the poker games and Troi's mom as well. "Tapestry" (the "It's a Wonderful Life" episode) was great. I also liked the other Picard ones you mentioned ("Darmok" and "Chain of Command"). "The Inner Light" gets my vote for my favorite episode because it's one of the few examples in Star Trek where a character is profoundly changed by an experience, instead of everything being reset to the status quo at the end. The flute makes a number of reappearances in future episodes. I also think that Picard's version of the Nexus reality from Generations was, in large part, informed by his experiences from "The Inner Light". Remember, this is a man that didn't like children and never saw himself as a family man. Then there's the haunting flute melody that recurs throughout the episode, as well as the heartfelt manner in which he clutches the flute as he gazes out the viewport, mourning his lost life. Great stuff. |
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