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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 24, 2021 20:14:06 GMT -5
Wait, Discovery is part of the movie universe? Really? That certainly removes a few of my issues, for sure. Because I'm now in a Star Trek sort of mood, I read the first trade of 'Star Trek: year 5' that's currently running. I haven't loved most of the IDW stuff (I really don't think Scott Tipton gets Trek, and he writes alot of it).. but this one was fantastic. A different writer that DOES clearly get the TOS vibe... really good art (with the Enterprise rendered with some computer trickery that really works well), and great stories for the first three, anyway. They're using the history in a really good way, so far. Definitely will read the the next trade soon! It's hard to find a writer who really gets a franchise enough to satisfy fans... That's why I was grateful for Peter David's work, way back when. The folks who wrote the fan-made Youtube series Star Trek Continues also got it. |
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Post by berkley on Jan 24, 2021 21:24:36 GMT -5
I hated almost everything about Enterprise from the saccharine theme song to most of the cast to the overall sanctimonious tone. What a waste of a decent premise. Scott Bakula seemed to be channelling George Dubya Bush in his speech patterns, which really rubbed me the wrong way.
I actually thought T'Pol was the only potentially decent character and that the actress did a good job with the very little she was given to work with. But the writing was just awful and it was ridiculous how they overplayed her "hotness" with gratuitous steamy shower scenes and the like.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 25, 2021 6:11:33 GMT -5
(...) The folks who wrote the fan-made Youtube series Star Trek Continues also got it. That and the other ST fan films also based on TOS, called Star Trek: Phase II or Star Trek: The New Voyages, are arguably the best new Trek content made over the past 15 or more years. As for Enterprise, I mentioned before how much I don't like it, and could write a big TL;DR post about it, but I think what berkley wrote above is a concise summary that reflects my own thoughts - although I'd add that I wasn't even a big fan of T'Pol, either. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 26, 2021 8:45:54 GMT -5
Wait, Discovery is part of the movie universe? Really? That certainly removes a few of my issues, for sure. Because I'm now in a Star Trek sort of mood, I read the first trade of 'Star Trek: year 5' that's currently running. I haven't loved most of the IDW stuff (I really don't think Scott Tipton gets Trek, and he writes alot of it).. but this one was fantastic. A different writer that DOES clearly get the TOS vibe... really good art (with the Enterprise rendered with some computer trickery that really works well), and great stories for the first three, anyway. They're using the history in a really good way, so far. Definitely will read the the next trade soon! It's not related to the movie-verse, it's said time and time again by the writers to be the "real" Trek. I just take it as it is and enjoy the good episodes and forget the episodes I don't like just like any other show. As for Year Five, I agree whole heartidly! It's easily the best Trek comic I've read. |
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 2, 2021 22:19:42 GMT -5
I hated almost everything about Enterprise from the saccharine theme song to most of the cast to the overall sanctimonious tone. Quoted for truth.
Rick Berman & Brannon Braga buried the franchise, and it still has not recovered long after their association with the franchise ended. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 5, 2021 21:53:57 GMT -5
I had never seen these deleted scenes from Nemesis.
I enjoyed them more than the actual movie. Especially the quiet moments at the end, with Worf and Geordie spending a lot of time emptying Data's quarters, and Riker pulling the leg of the Enterprise's new First Officer.
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Post by mrbrklyn on Feb 6, 2021 5:24:20 GMT -5
Wait, Discovery is part of the movie universe? Really? That certainly removes a few of my issues, for sure. Because I'm now in a Star Trek sort of mood, I read the first trade of 'Star Trek: year 5' that's currently running. I haven't loved most of the IDW stuff (I really don't think Scott Tipton gets Trek, and he writes alot of it).. but this one was fantastic. A different writer that DOES clearly get the TOS vibe... really good art (with the Enterprise rendered with some computer trickery that really works well), and great stories for the first three, anyway. They're using the history in a really good way, so far. Definitely will read the the next trade soon! It's hard to find a writer who really gets a franchise enough to satisfy fans... That's why I was grateful for Peter David's work, way back when. The folks who wrote the fan-made Youtube series Star Trek Continues also got it. This last IDW TNG mirror mirror run was as good as any Trek book I had every read. It felt like the original series itself. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 17, 2021 21:08:39 GMT -5
Impressive deepfakes!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 18, 2021 6:29:28 GMT -5
As Spock would say, " Fascinating." Adding Nimoy's face to Quinto's was definitely a more successful "fake" but Shatner's was pretty good too. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 18, 2021 19:48:52 GMT -5
I hated almost everything about Enterprise from the saccharine theme song to most of the cast to the overall sanctimonious tone. What a waste of a decent premise. Scott Bakula seemed to be channelling George Dubya Bush in his speech patterns, which really rubbed me the wrong way. I actually thought T'Pol was the only potentially decent character and that the actress did a good job with the very little she was given to work with. But the writing was just awful and it was ridiculous how they overplayed her "hotness" with gratuitous steamy shower scenes and the like. I liked the theme song a lot, I feel like it fit the show to a tee
One episode that's always stuck with me is the one about Pecan Pie. One of the crewmembers, forget the name, told T'Pol that "it might not be good for the waistline, but it's good for the soul." T'Pol takes a piece back to her quarters and mediates with it
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 20, 2021 12:53:07 GMT -5
I definitely mostly liked Enterprise... I mean, to the extent one can with time travel is the plot basis. Watched ep 1 of season 2 of discovery... not sure I need Capt. Pike on the crew, but the episode definitely felt more Star Trek-y, and the sub plot about Spock seems like it could be good. Also, clearly the writers heard the complaint about not developing the crew, the two conn officers had more lines in the episode than in the entire first season, and we even got a roll call. Now I just need to drag the wife away from her British mysteries to watch it  |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 20, 2021 18:35:46 GMT -5
I definitely mostly liked Enterprise... I mean, to the extent one can with time travel is the plot basis. Watched ep 1 of season 2 of discovery... not sure I need Capt. Pike on the crew, but the episode definitely felt more Star Trek-y, and the sub plot about Spock seems like it could be good. Also, clearly the writers heard the complaint about not developing the crew, the two conn officers had more lines in the episode than in the entire first season, and we even got a roll call. Now I just need to drag the wife away from her British mysteries to watch it I generally liked the first season, as uneven as it was, but the second season is definitely improvement. While I don't think we needed Pike per say, the actor really nails that charismatic male lead role and the way he meshes so well with the crew( and later Spock) really has me excited for the show he'll be headlining later this year. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 20, 2021 21:31:07 GMT -5
I think I agree.. just watched a couple more episodes... he's growing on me. Reno (the engineer they saved) is pretty awesome too. Not sure about the 80s music references, though.. that threw me right out of the show, but otherwise so far second 2 has been FAR better.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 21, 2021 8:28:33 GMT -5
I think I agree.. just watched a couple more episodes... he's growing on me. Reno (the engineer they saved) is pretty awesome too. Not sure about the 80s music references, though.. that threw me right out of the show, but otherwise so far second 2 has been FAR better. Reno is pretty awesome, I love her personality! And yeah, the 80's music reference was a bit weird. I mean, yeah I like 80's rock and punk music but it's pretty contemporary for me, and although 80's pop culture is huge now, would it be well known in 300 years time? Though, it's not without precedent, even if it isn't realistic, Enterprise had several references to the Twilight Zone, Shane and a slew of B-movies from the 50's, Riker played popular Jazz music and in TOS Kirk and Bones often mentioned popular books that would have been familiar to contemporary viewers. Still though, I get what you're saying that modern cultural references do throw me a bit. I think they even mentioned Elon Musk |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 26, 2021 21:39:42 GMT -5
When Riker played Jazz though, it was more as a timeless thing... I don't recall him ever calling out to specific artists or songs... but even if he did, say, mention Miles Davis... that's a person that's fundamental to the genre. That seemed more reasonable than Tilly picking Space Oddity as her favorite song.. surely she had pop/rock whatever? I mean Stamets talks about that whatever alien opera... that makes sense  . I guess if I think about it though, Trek characters have all had their 'ancient' likes.. with Data and Holmes, Picard and Crusher with the Noir thing... even the fencing. Then there's Sisko's love of baseball. (at least there they made up some future heroes for him.. I loved that). |
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