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Post by tingramretro on Aug 29, 2016 13:49:33 GMT -5
Tht's partly why I never found him very interesting or relatable, and why that changed after Byrne took over. His Superman was very definitely Clark, a man who thought of himself as just a normal guy, playing the part of a superhero. I much preferred that approach. Well, it makes the character a lot simpler and easier to understand and reduces him to just another guy in an acrobat suit, but, hey, to each his own, I guess. I don't see that it reduces him at all. It makes him more real, more believable, which I'd say is an improvement. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 29, 2016 13:53:03 GMT -5
The Interstate Highway System was formed in 1956. Detroit and the Big Three auto-makers were at their peak, building more and bigger cars. White flight to the suburbs started, which required people who had previously not owned autos to buy them. Kids became obsessed with hot rods. Thanks, I didn't know that. So Johnny Storm's obsession with hot rods in 1961 made him firmly of his time. Oh, God, yes! Think James Dean, Jan and Dean, Thunder Road (Mitchum, not Springsteen), Big Daddy Roth, Viva Las Vegas, etc. Very much a part of the zeitgeist. |
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Aug 29, 2016 14:07:46 GMT -5
Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 14:07:46 GMT -5
Thanks, I didn't know that. So Johnny Storm's obsession with hot rods in 1961 made him firmly of his time. Oh, God, yes! Think James Dean, Jan and Dean, Thunder Road (Mitchum, not Springsteen), Big Daddy Roth, Viva Las Vegas, etc. Very much a part of the zeitgeist. was a popular TV show when Johnny Storm debuted. The show was about 2 guys, their car and travelling from one town to the next getting involved in ...something or other My Manhattan thing is an aberration compared to 95% of the USA. And I'm sure when everyone had horses, Manhattanites did without |
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Aug 29, 2016 14:18:38 GMT -5
Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 29, 2016 14:18:38 GMT -5
Thanks, I didn't know that. So Johnny Storm's obsession with hot rods in 1961 made him firmly of his time. Oh, God, yes! Think James Dean, Jan and Dean, Thunder Road (Mitchum, not Springsteen), Big Daddy Roth, Viva Las Vegas, etc. Very much a part of the zeitgeist. Nice video about Big Daddy Roth, Rat Fink and the birth/growth of Hot Rod Culture. |
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Aug 29, 2016 14:19:55 GMT -5
Post by Prince Hal on Aug 29, 2016 14:19:55 GMT -5
Oh, God, yes! Think James Dean, Jan and Dean, Thunder Road (Mitchum, not Springsteen), Big Daddy Roth, Viva Las Vegas, etc. Very much a part of the zeitgeist. Nice video about Big Daddy Roth, Rat Fink and the birth/growth of Hot Rod Culture. What's a hot rod, Unca Slam? |
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Post by Confessor on Aug 29, 2016 14:24:39 GMT -5
Oh, God, yes! Think James Dean, Jan and Dean, Thunder Road (Mitchum, not Springsteen), Big Daddy Roth, Viva Las Vegas, etc. Very much a part of the zeitgeist. was a popular TV show when Johnny Storm debuted. The show was about 2 guys, their car and travelling from one town to the next getting involved in ...something or other There was also a "hot rod craze", which paralleled the surfing craze in the early '60s. It was represented on the U.S. pop charts by hot rodding-themed songs by the likes of The Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, The Rip Chords, Ronny & the Daytonas, Hal Blaine and Gary Usher. Like the romantic dream of the sun-kissed Californiana surf lifestyle, the hot ridding craze was essentially a West Coast export, but unlike surfing, it could be undertaken by land-locked teenagers all over America. So yeah, Johnny Storm's love of hot rods was very much a product of his times - i.e. The early '60s. I'm surprised that you didn't know that tolworthy, given your love of all thing FF.  |
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Aug 29, 2016 14:33:51 GMT -5
Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 29, 2016 14:33:51 GMT -5
Nice video about Big Daddy Roth, Rat Fink and the birth/growth of Hot Rod Culture. What's a hot rod, Unca Slam? It's something that 45-70 year old men play with on the weekend. I think a young Johnny Storm being into hot rods at this point would probably be out of character. I don't see many kids out there fixing up old cars, and I say that as the father of three boys ages 30, 21 and 15. Probably a combo of lack of availability and expense. And complexity. I can do a lot with cars that are pre-1985 or so...but they got real complicated real fast starting in the mid 70s. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 29, 2016 15:17:03 GMT -5
What's a hot rod, Unca Slam? It's something that 45-70 year old men play with on the weekend. I think a young Johnny Storm being into hot rods at this point would probably be out of character. I don't see many kids out there fixing up old cars, and I say that as the father of three boys ages 30, 21 and 15. Probably a combo of lack of availability and expense. And complexity. I can do a lot with cars that are pre-1985 or so...but they got real complicated real fast starting in the mid 70s. Thanks so much. I would hate to have had to look that up for myself.  |
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Aug 29, 2016 15:17:32 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 15:17:32 GMT -5
The hot rod craze lasted into the late 70's at least where I grew up. In high school all of my friends (myself included) drove late 60's cars that we had fixed up. I had a 68 Pontiac LeMans. My other friends had a 70 Chevelle. A 69 Duster. A 67 Mustang. We all put in headers, bigger carbs, Cragar wheels, Stereos, nice paint jobs, fat tires (L60-15) on the back with air shocks. On Sat nights we cruised & street raced our cars.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 15:24:04 GMT -5
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 29, 2016 15:24:27 GMT -5
The hot rod craze lasted into the late 70's at least where I grew up. In high school all of my friends (myself included) drove late 60's cars that we had fixed up. I had a 68 Pontiac LeMans. My other friends had a 70 Chevelle. A 69 Duster. A 67 Mustang. We all put in headers, bigger carbs, Cragar wheels, Stereos, nice paint jobs, fat tires (L60-15) on the back with air shocks. On Sat nights we cruised & street raced our cars. Muscle cars were definitely still around and available into the mid 80s. Among my friends there were '67 and '69 GTOs, '67 Charger and a '65 El Camino. They were staring to become hard to find though. Gone are the days of finding a Goat in someones cow pasture to fix up. |
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Aug 29, 2016 15:27:10 GMT -5
Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 29, 2016 15:27:10 GMT -5
Bill Kirchen does a version of Hot Rod Lincoln that is a hoot. |
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Aug 29, 2016 15:29:22 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 15:29:22 GMT -5
The hot rod craze lasted into the late 70's at least where I grew up. In high school all of my friends (myself included) drove late 60's cars that we had fixed up. I had a 68 Pontiac LeMans. My other friends had a 70 Chevelle. A 69 Duster. A 67 Mustang. We all put in headers, bigger carbs, Cragar wheels, Stereos, nice paint jobs, fat tires (L60-15) on the back with air shocks. On Sat nights we cruised & street raced our cars. Muscle cars were definitely still around and available into the mid 80s. Among my friends there were '67 and '69 GTOs, '67 Charger and a '65 El Camino. They were staring to become hard to find though. Gone are the days of finding a Goat in someones cow pasture to fix up. Yes they were still around but they were starting to become harder to find & they were becoming expensive. I sold my 68 LeMans for a 77 Formula Firebird in college. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 29, 2016 15:34:14 GMT -5
What's a hot rod, Unca Slam? It's something that 45-70 year old men play with on the weekend. I think a young Johnny Storm being into hot rods at this point would probably be out of character. I don't see many kids out there fixing up old cars, and I say that as the father of three boys ages 30, 21 and 15. Probably a combo of lack of availability and expense. And complexity. I can do a lot with cars that are pre-1985 or so...but they got real complicated real fast starting in the mid 70s. And now it's all plastic cowling (you can barely see the engine) and computer read-outs. |
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Aug 29, 2016 15:35:09 GMT -5
Post by tolworthy on Aug 29, 2016 15:35:09 GMT -5
Thanks a bunch. It took me months to stop being distracted by the divine Ann Margret. Now I'm right back to square one. |
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