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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 13:06:19 GMT -5
I really can't think of very many instances of Kubert inking someone else. Maybe his sons a few times. You're right on that, he inked Adam on Ghost Rider and it was terrible, it almost seems as if he was penciling it. What I wrote was a guess, unsubstantiated, And kinda jerky... Naw, that's OK, it would be nuts to have Joe Kubert as an inker. Wouldn't want to take away his time (when alive of course) from pencilling some beautiful pages I think I remember Neal Adams inking a Kubert Enemy Ace story in the original Star Spangled War Stories run and it was a masterpiece |
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 13:26:38 GMT -5
You're right on that, he inked Adam on Ghost Rider and it was terrible, it almost seems as if he was penciling it. What I wrote was a guess, unsubstantiated, And kinda jerky... Naw, that's OK, it would be nuts to have Joe Kubert as an inker. Wouldn't want to take away his time (when alive of course) from pencilling some beautiful pages I think I remember Neal Adams inking a Kubert Enemy Ace story in the original Star Spangled War Stories run and it was a masterpiece It's funny that when I was younger I never paid any attention to or really noticed that relationship (pencil/inker) I had read that Byrnes' pencils suffer if he inked them, and Bob Layton was almost always solid, but never really gave it a thought. Now with a better trained eye (and more jaded outlook) I really see how it can make or break a page... |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 29, 2016 13:41:31 GMT -5
Hey hey whoa I liked Machine Man and Kirby's Sandman as well. Neither great, but not bad. There's way worse I could point out from either company. I liked KIRBY's Machine Man very much... it's after Kirby that things go down hill... fast. |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Aug 29, 2016 14:20:39 GMT -5
I really can't think of very many instances of Kubert inking someone else. Maybe his sons a few times. You're right on that, he inked Adam on Ghost Rider and it was terrible, it almost seems as if he was penciling it. What I wrote was a guess, unsubstantiated, And kinda jerky... It was Andy Kubert that Joe inked on Ghost Rider. I rather liked the art on those issues, although I tend to dislike anything written by Howard Mackie. Andy and Joe also worked together on the first two issues of Before Watchmen: Nite Owl shortly before Joe died. |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Aug 29, 2016 14:37:12 GMT -5
I think I remember Neal Adams inking a Kubert Enemy Ace story in the original Star Spangled War Stories run and it was a masterpiece Kubert inked Adams on the classic Death Takes No Holiday in Star Spangled War Stories #144 and on one page of the Batman / Sgt Rock team-up in the Brave and the Bold #84, but I can't recall seeing Adams inking Kubert. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 14:50:05 GMT -5
I think I remember Neal Adams inking a Kubert Enemy Ace story in the original Star Spangled War Stories run and it was a masterpiece Kubert inked Adams on the classic Death Takes No Holiday in Star Spangled War Stories #144 and on one page of the Batman / Sgt Rock team-up in the Brave and the Bold #84, but I can't recall seeing Adams inking Kubert. I guess you're right, I knew they teamed up one way or the other. Adams was the one that did more ink jobs in his career vs. Joe Kubert |
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 14:53:00 GMT -5
You're right on that, he inked Adam on Ghost Rider and it was terrible, it almost seems as if he was penciling it. What I wrote was a guess, unsubstantiated, And kinda jerky... It was Andy Kubert that Joe inked on Ghost Rider. I rather liked the art on those issues, although I tend to dislike anything written by Howard Mackie. Andy and Joe also worked together on the first two issues of Before Watchmen: Nite Owl shortly before Joe died. Then I'm mistaken, thought it was the other way around, thanks for setting me straight! |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Aug 29, 2016 14:55:25 GMT -5
I had read that Byrnes' pencils suffer if he inked them, and Bob Layton was almost always solid, but never really gave it a thought. Now with a better trained eye (and more jaded outlook) I really see how it can make or break a page... Byrne disliked Layton's inking of his pencils on Incredible Hulk Annual #7 because he thought the inking made the Hulk and the Angel look gay. link |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 29, 2016 15:17:28 GMT -5
I had read that Byrnes' pencils suffer if he inked them, and Bob Layton was almost always solid, but never really gave it a thought. Now with a better trained eye (and more jaded outlook) I really see how it can make or break a page... Byrne disliked Layton's inking of his pencils on Incredible Hulk Annual #7 because he thought the inking made the Hulk and the Angel look gay. linkWell, considering what happened to Iceman later on... Perhaps Layton knew something we didn't! I'm surprised by Byrne's reaction. I think the artwork in that issue is lovely. The scene with the Sentinel flying through space is awesome. |
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Post by simayl on Aug 29, 2016 15:38:56 GMT -5
I really can't think of very many instances of Kubert inking someone else. Maybe his sons a few times. You're right on that, he inked Adam on Ghost Rider and it was terrible, it almost seems as if he was penciling it. What I wrote was a guess, unsubstantiated, And kinda jerky... Kubert did have one hugely influential inking gig - Showcase #4 inking Carmine Infantino's first Flash! |
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 16:20:30 GMT -5
I had read that Byrnes' pencils suffer if he inked them, and Bob Layton was almost always solid, but never really gave it a thought. Now with a better trained eye (and more jaded outlook) I really see how it can make or break a page... Byrne disliked Layton's inking of his pencils on Incredible Hulk Annual #7 because he thought the inking made the Hulk and the Angel look gay. linkI like those pages, but what the hell do I know? |
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