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Post by Snikts and Stones on Sept 1, 2016 22:29:45 GMT -5
Apart from different creative teams, were the different Spider-Man books (Amazing, Spectacular, Web) alike in tone and subject matter? I was always curious if they all ran into one another (an editorial nightmare I'm sure) or if they were mostly self contained, big events notwithstanding...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 22:37:37 GMT -5
They were mostly self contained until the 90's when the 4 titles essentially became a weekly similar to what DC did with the Superman titles at that time.
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Sept 1, 2016 22:54:40 GMT -5
They were mostly self contained until the 90's when the 4 titles essentially became a weekly similar to what DC did with the Superman titles at that time. Kind of what I figured, I never read any of them consistently, I'd usually grab the one with a favorite villain!
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 2, 2016 3:29:41 GMT -5
There was a time in the 80's that I read both Amazing and PPSS. They both had different supporting casts and a somewhat different tone.
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Post by Ozymandias on Sept 2, 2016 4:45:21 GMT -5
When we had PPSSM, ASM and MTU, they were quite different and run independently to a large degree. PPSSM and ASM had some ties (Hobgoblin, Felicia, Foolkiller, Vulture...) around the time Stern made the switch from one title to the other. Once he left, they regained part of the lost autonomy. MTU was pretty much self-contained, that changed when the title was transformed into WOSM, supporting characters started appearing there too. In general, PPSSM was focused on Peter's campus life, and ASM on his photographer career.
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Sept 2, 2016 9:09:11 GMT -5
In general, PPSSM was focused on Peter's campus life, and ASM on his photographer career. Thanks, I know this was a pretty pedestrian question I could've wiki' but I like asking experts!
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 2, 2016 18:17:20 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum Snikts and Stones!
As primarily a Spidey fan, I felt obligated to chime in with what little I know, in hopes of persuading you to read some of the classic issues!
Amazing Spider-Man is the original and best in my opinion. The first 100 issues feature the best classic artwork from Ditko and Romita and all of the classic villains. Great stuff and worth finding in any form to read. From issue 101-150, you get the classic Death of Gwen Stacy, a great Goblin story and the original clone saga which I love. From #151-200, nothing groundbreaking but still good artwork. #200-237 are also good but nothing spectacular, with the exception of a few individual issues. #238 introduces Hobgoblin and his involvement carries the stories until about #289. It is a good run, even if the ending was not what was originally planned. From #290-328 you have the classic Kraven's Last Hunt and then at #297, the artwork is taken over by Todd McFarlane and the introduction of Venom takes charge. After McFarlane leaves, the artwork is primarily taken over by Erik Larsen who does a good job of keep his style. The stories are average up until #365. At this point, Peter's parents are brought into the fold and the stories are not as great up until #400, which is a solid story. At this point, the series enters the 90's and loses a lot of appeal for me personally.
If you want to collect single issues of a Spidey series on the cheap with good artwork and simply storylines, Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man is where it is at! The first 100 issues are just good fun, with great covers and some oddball characters at times. They do focus more around Peter and his friends (when not focusing on Spidey fighting). There are not many great storylines but again, for pick up and go reading, it is the simplest in my opinion. After #100, the story features police captain Jean DeWolff and the Sin Eater and it is a pretty good story arc (starts around #105 and ends around #119 if memory serves). The series is then just good fun, with solid artwork by Buscema up until #200. This is when the series enters the 90s and my knowledge fades. Once again, the second clone saga really twists up the Marvel world in a way that I never liked. But as a whole, this series is good plus, very cheap to find these issues.
Marvel Team-Up featured Spidey teaming up with everyone imaginable. Once again, great artwork and good fun simple stories. The first 60 are my favourite. After that, the team-up stories are not as strong or as fun but it is still a good series if you like seeing Spider-Man alongside others. Generally, the storylines lasted 2 issues at most, so they are easy to pick up and read.
Spidey Super Stories did not tie in (to my knowledge) with any series. It was published in connection with the Electric Company and had some great artwork but the stories were geared for kids so the writing is very simplistic. Still, a more obscure title that is harder to track down and likely has a lot of Spidey adventures that many comic fans have never read.
Finally, Web of Spider-Man is my least favourite. With the exception of a small handful of issues (like the tie in with Kraven's Last Hunt), I find the stories sub par. The artwork, especially the covers, also leaves a lot to be desired. As far as original Spidey titles, I have the least love for this series.
That is the extent of my Spidey knowledge. As mentioned, the 90s ruined the character for me. I read a few later titles like Sensational Spider-Man and Peter Parker, Spider-Man. At this point, there were too many titles to keep track of and having missed 1994-1998, I felt out of the loop. I stayed away from newer comics through my youth and focused on collecting the old stuff. To this day, I have not ventured back into Spider-Man because no one has come forth and said "you have to read this!". I also find the artwork lacking in general...maybe someday I will but for now, Spider-Man lives from 1963-1993 in my mind.
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Post by kellyg on Sept 2, 2016 19:08:07 GMT -5
I collected ASM, PP: SSM, MTU and SSS. Then Web of Spider-Man. Then stopped, then got some of the McFarlane Spider-man.Then stopped for good.
"I am the living clone of Professor Miles Warren!!!"
Sorry, just had to get that out.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 2, 2016 20:08:36 GMT -5
^ I enjoyed Carrion a lot. Always loved the way he was drawn and when he and Hobgoblin met up in Spec Spidey, I loved that little arc.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 2, 2016 21:55:06 GMT -5
I liked early Web (I started Spidey comics with the 90's Clone Saga) the best. It's covers showcased more symbiote Spidey covers which is my favorite costume. Spider-Man is my second favorite title and the series I own the most of. I think that's partly the good stories and partly it was a series feasible for me to collect, since #1 wasn't that distant when the Clone Saga was in the #50's or so.
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Post by Ozymandias on Sept 3, 2016 1:51:13 GMT -5
#200-237 are also good but nothing spectacular, with the exception of a few individual issues. Spidey Super Stories did not tie in (to my knowledge) with any series. To this day, I have not ventured back into Spider-Man because no one has come forth and said "you have to read this!". I also find the artwork lacking in general...maybe someday I will but for now, Spider-Man lives from 1963-1993 in my mind. #224-251 contain most of the best SM stories ever. It didn't tie in with other titles, because it isn't part of the earth-616 continuity. It's set on Earth-57780. Call me "no one", you have to read ASM #471-476, 478-479, 484-491, 506-508, 532-543. For alternative picks, the OP can check my individual ratings, for every SM comic from the 60's trough the 80's (up to December '89). Based on your previous opinion, about the ones you've actually read, you'll be able to see which recommendation makes more sense to you.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 4, 2016 14:01:16 GMT -5
For the record, I think the first 130 or so issues of Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man are pretty good comics all in all, and the Bill Mantlo/Ed Hannigan period from issue #61 through to #72 is particularly underrated.
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Post by Ozymandias on Sept 5, 2016 3:03:29 GMT -5
the Bill Mantlo/Ed Hannigan period from issue #61 through to #72 is particularly underrated. From #66 to #72, I find 5 of the best 23 comics, out of the first 157 issues (the classic era).
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Post by RikerDonegal on Sept 28, 2016 16:44:55 GMT -5
Finally, Web of Spider-Man is my least favourite. With the exception of a small handful of issues (like the tie in with Kraven's Last Hunt), I find the stories sub par. The artwork, especially the covers, also leaves a lot to be desired. As far as original Spidey titles, I have the least love for this series. Great summation, and I agree with this point. I could never see the appeal of WoSM. I bought 9 issues around the time of the Kraven storyline and read another 20 or so when they were in a Marvel UK reprint book. Weird disjointed book. Different creators on different stories. Constantly changing and constantly being "experimental" I see to recall them saying about it at the time. Bleagh! Give me ASM or PPTSSM anytime. Particularly Spectacular, as I have a read love for the tone, art and stories in that series.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 28, 2016 16:55:05 GMT -5
Right!?! At least something like this... ...makes me say "Wow that looks bizarre I think I may just read it even if it is corny as hell". Compared to this... ...which does nothing for me. I find a lot of the Web issues struggle because they feature generic baddies, henchmen battles or just Spidey with a random background. Which is not terrible but early on it just seemed like a way to splash the black suit against different backgrounds.
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