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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 20:43:48 GMT -5
Although the BPRD is my number one(see above) I recently read through another team book that was fantastic: Agents of Atlas has this amazing pulpy feel and I'm sorely sorry I didn't buy this while it was coming out and I wish it would come back. I agree. It was a fun book. We need more books like it.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 25, 2016 21:44:52 GMT -5
I'm really not a team fan, for the most part, but the "team" books I've enjoyed the most are The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, The Twelve, Atari Force and The Watchmen, none of which are really teams in the way that the OP meant it, I'm sure.
If we're talking ongoing superhero teams from the Big Two, I'd have to say The Avengers (or the Fantastic Four, if we're counting them as a team). I also have a disproportionately large affection for pre-crisis JLA too, for some reason, since I've yet to read an issue of that series that really blew me away.
Really though, solo heroes or duos are more my thing, if I'm honest.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 25, 2016 22:57:49 GMT -5
I love group books ! Earth-2 is awesome. I've always thought it was so cool that those characters debuted in the Golden Age. They're the original heroes and later on were succeeded by a younger generation that they helped to mentor. The JSA was in a reprinted story in a Justice League 100 page giant, my first comic off a spinner rack. Even though there haven't been many issues of The Freedom Fighters, I love the team and concept. There's a group that had JSA members, Freedom Fighters, Seven Soldiers of Victory, Young All-Stars, the Squadron of Justice, and other non-team Golden Age characters. The group that FDR himself helped to form to protect the homefront during WW II. Much as I love the JSA, I'm listing the All-Star Squadron as my favorite cause we got such a great mix of characters from all those groups and other great characters I love.
Even bigger than the JSA, with those extra characters tossed in. If it weren't for this retcon group, my vote would definitely be the JSA.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 26, 2016 1:17:29 GMT -5
Squadron Sinister: don't get me wrong, I liked the Squadron Supreme but there's something more interesting about Hyperion as evil. Absolutely! The two parter where the Squadron ally with Nebulon to fight the Defenders is still one of my favourite stories. Nice to see you here, by the way.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 26, 2016 1:24:32 GMT -5
I love group books ! Earth-2 is awesome. I've always thought it was so cool that those characters debuted in the Golden Age. They're the original heroes and later on were succeeded by a younger generation that they helped to mentor. The JSA was in a reprinted story in a Justice League 100 page giant, my first comic off a spinner rack. Even though there haven't been many issues of The Freedom Fighters, I love the team and concept. There's a group that had JSA members, Freedom Fighters, Seven Soldiers of Victory, Young All-Stars, the Squadron of Justice, and other non-team Golden Age characters. The group that FDR himself helped to form to protect the homefront during WW II. Much as I love the JSA, I'm listing the All-Star Squadron as my favorite cause we got such a great mix of characters from all those groups and other great characters I love.
Even bigger than the JSA, with those extra characters tossed in. If it weren't for this retcon group, my vote would definitely be the JSA. The 70s All-Star revival and Freedom Fighters were the two books that really made me a DC fan, and All-Star Squadron cemented it-there's just something about that generation of heroes, and then their legacies (I also loved Infinity Inc) that, to me, basically symbolizes what superheroes should be all about. I was the decision to effectively berase the Golden Age that caused me to quit reading DC after 36 years in 2011, and the glimpse of Johnny Thunder in Rebirth that brought me back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 1:47:53 GMT -5
Growing up, the easy answer for me would have been the Avengers, followed by the Invaders and the classic Guardians of the Galaxy, with the Super Friends (cum JLA) leading the way for DC, but behind the Marvel heroes a bit. I loved team books (and team-up books) as a kid because you got more bang for your buck, so to speak, with more costumed and powered heroes on the page and a broader range of characters to experience.
My tastes have changed as I have gotten older and devoured thousands of comics read over the last 43 years. These days I am less a fan of team books, and books that focus solely on costumes and powers, but instead focus on stories, characters as people facing/resolving conflicts, and interpersonal relationships (though the less melodramatic soap opera-ish those interactions the better for me). I do like ensemble casts, just not necessarily the super-hero team dynamic per se these days. So, when I do turn to read team books I am looking for something else.
Those that I love now, or wish there were more of to read include things like Agents of Atlas, Easy Company, Warren Ellis' Planetary, Kurt Busiek's Honor Guard, and a little outfit by Karl Kesel and Tom Grummett that only had 3 issues but had so much more potential-Section Zero. I like sci-fi/fantasy adventure with ensemble casts too, so things like the current Micronauts series, or Black Hammer that I just discovered, the Mignola BPRD stuff, Sixth Gun, etc. that have ensemble casts with team dynamics but aren't so much super-teams in the traditional sense are more of what I want to read these days.
If pressed, I would probably still answer the Avengers out of nostalgia and so many years of them informing my comics reading and collecting habits, but that's definitely an answer with one foot in the past tense, not a current passion for me.
-M
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Post by batlaw on Sept 26, 2016 4:19:22 GMT -5
JLA easy for me. Probably followed by TT but maybe Avengers... it'd be close. After that I guess X-men.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 6:17:42 GMT -5
BEST TEAM OF ALL TIMEJustice League of America - Satellite Era
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Post by brutalis on Sept 26, 2016 7:19:20 GMT -5
First up Avengers by a long mle. Any iteration up until Bendis ruined the concept. Not always the most powerful but the most confident team overcoming any and all villains or alien threats. Having a core team with rotating secondary hero's meant you might find at least one or two hero's you liked best and all were colorful with different characteristics intermingling and quarreling and laughing almost as a real family does.
Second is Justice Society of America ever since seeing them co-star in Justice League America and only seeing glimpses of these 1940's war hero's had me searching and watching for anything they guest starred in. Tied with that is the All Star Squadron which is really just an expanded JSA ala Avengers.
Third up does Nexus and Judah the Hammer and Badger qualify as a team? Because i love it when Baron and Rude would team the 3 of them up into adventures in the bowl shaped world.
Fourth would be a 3 way tie between Fantastic Four and X-Men and Justice League of America (classic) over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 7:30:01 GMT -5
After reading everyone's posts the All Star Squadron is my favorite. I really loved the Golden Age teams like JSA, Invaders. The All Star Squadron had the JSA & the Freedom Fighters (basically all of the GA DC/Quality characters). It still remains one of my favorite series of all time. I suspect if Marvel had revived All Winners Squad & thrown in all their GA heroes it would be my 2nd favorite book.
I'm also like mrp: I liked teams when I was younger. Now that I am older I gravitate more to solo books. Although I still like team ups. I'm a big fan of the Fantastic Four & the World's Finest team of Superman & Batman (now with WW in Trinity!). Part of me thinks that it is because modern writers don't write team books the way I like. It's less about friendship, trust & respect & more about interpersonal conflicts these days.
And God knows we have to deal with too much interpersonal conflicts in our real lives....
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Post by berkley on Sept 26, 2016 9:17:29 GMT -5
A question just occurred to me: have there ever been any superhero trios? I can think of teams with as few as four members - the FF, the Challengers - and there have been a few duos - Batman & Robin, Hawk & Dove, Cloak & dagger - but no trios come to mind. Unlike rock music, where "power trios" were a thing at one time, or adventure novels like the Three Musketeers (though there were really four of them) trios never seemed to catch on in superhero comics - unless I'm forgetting something obvious?
[edit:] I see that one I didn't think of has already been mentioned - the DC "Trinity" of Batman, Superman, & WW.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 9:29:25 GMT -5
A question just occurred to me: have there ever been any superhero trios? I can think of teams with as few as four members - the FF, the Challengers - and there have been a few duos - Batman & Robin, Hawk & Dove, Cloak & dagger - but no trios come to mind. Unlike rock music, where "power trios" were a thing at one time, or adventure novels like the Three Musketeers (though there were really four of them) trios never seemed to catch on in superhero comics - unless I'm forgetting something obvious? [edit:] I see that one I didn't think of has already been mentioned - the DC "Trinity" of Batman, Superman, & WW. The Marvel Family
Birds of Prey (Oracle/Huntress/Black Canary)
Original Doom Patrol
And if you count a Big 3 within a larger group: Cap/Namor/Torch in Invaders. Cap/Iron Man/Thor in Avengers. Hulk/Namor/Dr Strange in Defenders. Lightning Lad/Saturn Girl/Cosmic Boy in LoSH.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 10:31:11 GMT -5
There were these guys.. tho much more on TV than an occasional 1-off comic appearance (I think they showed up in some of the Harvey Saturday Morning cartoon books?). but yeah. . LOVED the Galaxy Trio (on the Birdman show) and *of course* my favorite was "Gravity Girl"
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 26, 2016 10:41:31 GMT -5
A question just occurred to me: have there ever been any superhero trios? I can think of teams with as few as four members - the FF, the Challengers - and there have been a few duos - Batman & Robin, Hawk & Dove, Cloak & dagger - but no trios come to mind. Unlike rock music, where "power trios" were a thing at one time, or adventure novels like the Three Musketeers (though there were really four of them) trios never seemed to catch on in superhero comics - unless I'm forgetting something obvious? [edit:] I see that one I didn't think of has already been mentioned - the DC "Trinity" of Batman, Superman, & WW. One that immediately comes to mind is The Sentinels (Brute, Helio and Mentalia) who had a back-up strip in Charlton's Thunderbolt series.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 26, 2016 10:43:12 GMT -5
A question just occurred to me: have there ever been any superhero trios? I can think of teams with as few as four members - the FF, the Challengers - and there have been a few duos - Batman & Robin, Hawk & Dove, Cloak & dagger - but no trios come to mind. Unlike rock music, where "power trios" were a thing at one time, or adventure novels like the Three Musketeers (though there were really four of them) trios never seemed to catch on in superhero comics - unless I'm forgetting something obvious? [edit:] I see that one I didn't think of has already been mentioned - the DC "Trinity" of Batman, Superman, & WW. The Marvel Family
And, indeed, the Marvelman Family: Marvelman, Young Marvelman and Kid Marvelman.
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