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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 20:49:05 GMT -5
If the general public doesn't tolerate and ignore racism and bigotry, the government will take away all our rights.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 24, 2015 20:51:38 GMT -5
The government is itching to take away our rights. They are looking forward to the time when they can be the ONLY ones with guns. Again, these are scary times.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 24, 2015 20:52:00 GMT -5
How has been prevented from saying what they think? You've yet to address this. Not yet, Slam. Not yet. I meant who. So you're just running this parade of despair and concern about something that not only hasn't happened, but that is unlikely to happen. The actual fact is that there is significantly more freedom to say what you want than there has ever been before. And that freedom is spread among people who in the past had absolutely no voice. Again...this is in absolutely no way a free speech issue. You have no right to not have economic and social repercussions from your speech. You only have the right to not be punished for it by the government. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 24, 2015 20:53:15 GMT -5
Slam, I respect you. You are an optimist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 20:57:13 GMT -5
The government is itching to take away our rights. They are looking forward to the time when they can be the ONLY ones with guns. Again, these are scary times. The NRA has been saying this since 1871, and yet I still personally know people who legally own fully automatic weapons. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 20:58:54 GMT -5
What is your solution to the consequences of racism and bigotry in the public sector? Making racists and homophobes a protected class, so it's actually illegal for a private corporation to choose not to do business with someone based on their racism and bigotry?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 24, 2015 20:59:45 GMT -5
The government is itching to take away our rights. They are looking forward to the time when they can be the ONLY ones with guns. Again, these are scary times. The NRA has been saying this since 1871, and yet I still personally know people who legally own fully automatic weapons. Yet, every time some disturbed person shoots up a public place the debate is brought back about restricting guns and eliminating the right to bear arms. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 21:02:51 GMT -5
The NRA has been saying this since 1871, and yet I still personally know people who legally own fully automatic weapons. Yet, every time some disturbed person shoots up a public place the debate is brought back about restricting guns and eliminating the right to bear arms. Eliminating the right to bear arms? Who is talking about that? Mandatory background checks only eliminate the right to bear arms for criminals. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 24, 2015 21:03:28 GMT -5
I'm looking at the end game.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 24, 2015 21:04:05 GMT -5
The things people are speaking up about is very selective. I see Christians getting bashed about opposing gay Marriage but i never see anyone protesting in front of a mosque. They are opposed to gay rights in every sense and are violent about it. That's patently false, about the only legitimate gripes that exist about Islam is its stance against women and homosexuals and many, many people criticize the faith about those issues regularly. The only reason it's not a bigger issue now is that Muslims in America pretty much stay out of politics because they have a big enough target on their backs as it is. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 24, 2015 21:05:49 GMT -5
Slam, I respect you. You are an optimist. I'm a realist. I've heard this parade of horribles for 48 years. And we are more free than we've ever been. We've heard for six and a half years that we're going to have FEMA death camps, Sharia Law, gun confiscation, martial law, etc. And none of it has happened. And none of it will. Jade Helm 15 is apparently going to mean that the government is going to have a coup...against itself. Even though Jade Helms 1-14 didn't seem to cause any issues. Just like in the 50s there were hordes of communists infiltrating the State Department and the Army and the they were going to jump out of the closet to eat us all. Except...of course...they weren't. I'm far more concerned about the concentration of economic and political power in the hands of a few wealthy people at a higher rate than has happened since the Gilded Age, with the militarization of our police forces and with the fetishistic worship of the military (until they come back from war broken and needing help) than I am about some loudmouth being dropped by a corporation because he's an economic liability. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 21:06:39 GMT -5
I'm looking at the end game. You said there is a debate on ending the right to bear arms, which means a ban on all guns for everyone, a repeal of the second amendment. Not only that, but you said the debate is "brought back" Who is debating this? |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 24, 2015 21:06:42 GMT -5
The government is itching to take away our rights. They are looking forward to the time when they can be the ONLY ones with guns. Again, these are scary times. I don't see much evidence of that, why are you letting irrational fears whip you up into a frenzy? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 24, 2015 21:06:42 GMT -5
What is your solution to the consequences of racism and bigotry in the public sector? Making racists and homophobes a protected class, so it's actually illegal for a private corporation to choose not to do business with someone based on their racism and bigotry? There are consequences to all of our actions but I think that everyone should have a right to their opinion. Everyone. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 24, 2015 21:09:52 GMT -5
What is your solution to the consequences of racism and bigotry in the public sector? Making racists and homophobes a protected class, so it's actually illegal for a private corporation to choose not to do business with someone based on their racism and bigotry? There are consequences to all of our actions but I think that everyone should have a right to their opinion. Everyone. You've yet to show where anyone isn't being allowed to have their own opinion. There are consequences for expressing them. Especially when it costs your employer money. |
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