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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 15:53:28 GMT -5
Ducks and rabbits oh my...which do you see.... (found on Uncle Walt Simonson's feed) -M
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 22, 2017 20:44:58 GMT -5
Blast from the past department: My employer has discovered that they don't have proof of my citizenship on file so I have to come up with my birth certificate ASAP. I've searched the places where I thought it was with no success. Well, that's not entirely true. I haven't found the birth certificate, but I did find my draft card, the passport that I used to visit London in 1973, my student ID cards from high school and college, and best of all:
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 22, 2017 22:29:40 GMT -5
Ducks and rabbits oh my...which do you see.... (found on Uncle Walt Simonson's feed) -M Depends on which season it is
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Post by Confessor on Feb 22, 2017 23:09:31 GMT -5
...I did find my draft card... I would love to see that if you have a photo or scan, Rob.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 23, 2017 0:43:09 GMT -5
I've known some idiots in my life. My OCD condition compels me to find a complete idiot.
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 23, 2017 12:06:04 GMT -5
...I did find my draft card... I would love to see that if you have a photo or scan, Rob. Just for you, Paul:
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Post by Confessor on Feb 23, 2017 12:19:43 GMT -5
I would love to see that if you have a photo or scan, Rob. Just for you, Paul: Thanks, Rob. That's fascinating. I notice that the date of mailing on it is January 1975, a good two years after the signing of the Paris Peace Accord and 18 months after direct U.S. military involvement in Vietnam ended. I had no idea that the U.S. government were still issuing draft cards as late as that. The North Vietnamese Army took Saigon in April 1975, resulting in the evacuation of all remaining U.S. personnel from the country, as you no doubt know, so what was the purpose of issuing you and other kids like you with a draft card in 1975? And when did it finally stop?
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 23, 2017 12:27:58 GMT -5
Thanks, Rob. That's fascinating. I notice that the date of mailing on it is January 1975, a good two years after the signing of the Paris Peace Accord and 18 months after direct U.S. military involvement in Vietnam ended. I had no idea that the U.S. government were still issuing draft cards as late as that. The North Vietnamese Army took Saigon in April 1975, resulting in the evacuation of all remaining U.S. personnel from the country, as you no doubt know, so what was the purpose of issuing you and other kids like you with a draft card in 1975? And when did it finally stop? Bureaucracies don't change course quickly. I don't remember the answers to your questions, so I looked it up: www.sss.gov/About/History-And-Records/lotter1"The last draft call was on December 7, 1972, and the authority to induct expired on June 30, 1973. The date of the last drawing for the lottery was on March 12, 1975. Registration with the Selective Service System was suspended on April 1, 1975, and registrant processing was suspended on January 27, 1976."
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 23, 2017 12:29:08 GMT -5
Thanks, Rob. That's fascinating. I notice that the date of mailing on it is January 1975, a good two years after the signing of the Paris Peace Accord and 18 months after direct U.S. military involvement in Vietnam ended. I had no idea that the U.S. government were still issuing draft cards as late as that. The North Vietnamese Army took Saigon in April 1975, resulting in the evacuation of all remaining U.S. personnel from the country, as you no doubt know, so what was the purpose of issuing you and other kids like you with a draft card in 1975? And when did it finally stop? They stopped issuing them when Ford terminated the requirement to register on March 29, 1975. When the draft registration requirement was reinstated in 1980 they did not send out the old style draft cards.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 23, 2017 12:32:41 GMT -5
Thanks, Rob. That's fascinating. I notice that the date of mailing on it is January 1975, a good two years after the signing of the Paris Peace Accord and 18 months after direct U.S. military involvement in Vietnam ended. I had no idea that the U.S. government were still issuing draft cards as late as that. The North Vietnamese Army took Saigon in April 1975, resulting in the evacuation of all remaining U.S. personnel from the country, as you no doubt know, so what was the purpose of issuing you and other kids like you with a draft card in 1975? And when did it finally stop? Bureaucracies don't change course quickly. I don't remember the answers to your questions, so I looked it up: www.sss.gov/About/History-And-Records/lotter1"The last draft call was on December 7, 1972, and the authority to induct expired on June 30, 1973. The date of the last drawing for the lottery was on March 12, 1975. Registration with the Selective Service System was suspended on April 1, 1975, and registrant processing was suspended on January 27, 1976." Amazing. I had always assumed that the draft lottery had ended sometime in 1973, following the signing of the Paris Peace Accord. Did you know any guys your age or maybe slightly older who served in Vietnam, Rob? I don't believe we have any Vietnam vets in this forum, but I'm fascinated by the war (as I am with all things '60s and early '70s), so anything you can recall about any aspect of it in your day to day life would be interesting to hear. Same goes for anyone else reading this who may have Vietnam War stories from older relatives or whoever. Would love to hear them.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 23, 2017 12:35:01 GMT -5
Thanks, Rob. That's fascinating. I notice that the date of mailing on it is January 1975, a good two years after the signing of the Paris Peace Accord and 18 months after direct U.S. military involvement in Vietnam ended. I had no idea that the U.S. government were still issuing draft cards as late as that. The North Vietnamese Army took Saigon in April 1975, resulting in the evacuation of all remaining U.S. personnel from the country, as you no doubt know, so what was the purpose of issuing you and other kids like you with a draft card in 1975? And when did it finally stop? They stopped issuing them when Ford terminated the requirement to register on March 29, 1975. When the draft registration requirement was reinstated in 1980 they did not send out the old style draft cards. Thanks, Slam. I also had no idea that a draft was reinstated in 1980. What the hell was that for?!
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 23, 2017 12:44:42 GMT -5
They stopped issuing them when Ford terminated the requirement to register on March 29, 1975. When the draft registration requirement was reinstated in 1980 they did not send out the old style draft cards. Thanks, Slam. I also had no idea that a draft was reinstated in 1980. What the hell was that for?! They didn't exactly reinstate the draft, they just reinstated registration, in case a draft was needed. In 1980 it looked like we might be getting into a war with Iran. The website I quoted earlier has this: "Registration was resumed in July 1980 for men born in 1960 and later, and is in effect to this present time. Men are required to register within 30 days of their 18th birthday."
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 23, 2017 12:47:28 GMT -5
They stopped issuing them when Ford terminated the requirement to register on March 29, 1975. When the draft registration requirement was reinstated in 1980 they did not send out the old style draft cards. Thanks, Slam. I also had no idea that a draft was reinstated in 1980. What the hell was that for?! The draft wasn't reinstated. Draft registration was reinstated. So they'd have a pool to draw from the next time we got into a senseless war. But the next time we did we just had enough people in the armed forces and national guard, or willing to join, that they didn't have to draft anyone.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 23, 2017 12:51:29 GMT -5
I owe Rob Allen a passel of Cokes.
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 23, 2017 13:08:23 GMT -5
I owe Rob Allen a passel of Cokes. If & when I drive across the country, your place will be my first stop. Maybe we'll drink Cokes, or maybe something else.
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