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Post by Warmonger on Jan 12, 2018 7:21:16 GMT -5
New Mutants pushed back 10 months to 2019, Deadpool 2 moves up to May 2018.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Jan 12, 2018 10:28:20 GMT -5
F-. My 2018 just got much worse.
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Post by rberman on Jan 15, 2018 14:38:10 GMT -5
It's not a good sign when the movie's release date is moved so far into the future that they could reshoot the whole movie in the meantime. Wonder what went wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 15:27:24 GMT -5
It's not a good sign when the movie's release date is moved so far into the future that they could reshoot the whole movie in the meantime. Wonder what went wrong. This is what I have read about the schedule shuffle-One they wanted to move up Deadpool 2 and get the payday form that before the Disney deal takes effect and didn't want to X movies competing against each other, so they moved Deadpool 2 up and New Mutants back, and two, initial reactions to test screenings were good not great and the most common critique was that it was presented as a horror movie but not scary enough so they want to reinforce some of the horror elements in the film to reflect the stories they are adapting and make things scarier. So I think #1 is a bigger factor than #2, but #2 is plausible too. -M |
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Post by rberman on Jan 15, 2018 17:04:38 GMT -5
The thing that made the early New Mutants stories (Demon Bear, Cloak & Dagger crossover, and Legion) fascinating was not the horror aspect of Claremont's plots, but rather Sienkiewicz's daring art. He tapped into the nightmarish aspects of those three stories with visuals of the like that we had not seen before. For comparison, look at Cockrum's art on X-Men #160 (where the X-Men visit Belasco's domain, and Illyana instantly ages up), or the Frenz/Sal Buscema art of the accompanying Magik mini-series. Those three gents are fine artists (though I have soured on some of S. Buscema's art mannerisms), but imagine what Sienkiewicz would have done with Belasco's nightmare realm, or with the body horror of the Brood saga. Though I do love Paul Smith's clean lines, a Sienkiewicz sequence of the battle between Wolverine and the brood embryo within him would have been something to see.
In contrast, the movie has a new hybrid concept to bring (X-Teens, but horror style). Does it have an arresting new visual style, or just a replay of the typical teen horror tropes? (Actually, there was already a horror movie with superheroes, namely Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, where the victimized teens had powers in their dream world, a la The Matrix.)
Now, if they rotascoped the movie like "A Scanner Darkly," there are all sorts of possibilities for it to have its own look, but probably at the cost of sales, especially for a movie without a major star to power it through the box office, and with a title that even Bob MacLeod thinks is dumb, but TPTB at Marvel just couldn't think of another one before the deadline hit.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Jan 15, 2018 19:20:14 GMT -5
It's not a good sign when the movie's release date is moved so far into the future that they could reshoot the whole movie in the meantime. Wonder what went wrong. This is what I have read about the schedule shuffle-One they wanted to move up Deadpool 2 and get the payday form that before the Disney deal takes effect and didn't want to X movies competing against each other, so they moved Deadpool 2 up and New Mutants back, and two, initial reactions to test screenings were good not great and the most common critique was that it was presented as a horror movie but not scary enough so they want to reinforce some of the horror elements in the film to reflect the stories they are adapting and make things scarier. So I think #1 is a bigger factor than #2, but #2 is plausible too. -M Most reports seem to be saying that the reshoots are to tone down the horror elements to make it lighter, not to make it scarier. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 22:17:05 GMT -5
This is what I have read about the schedule shuffle-One they wanted to move up Deadpool 2 and get the payday form that before the Disney deal takes effect and didn't want to X movies competing against each other, so they moved Deadpool 2 up and New Mutants back, and two, initial reactions to test screenings were good not great and the most common critique was that it was presented as a horror movie but not scary enough so they want to reinforce some of the horror elements in the film to reflect the stories they are adapting and make things scarier. So I think #1 is a bigger factor than #2, but #2 is plausible too. -M Most reports seem to be saying that the reshoots are to tone down the horror elements to make it lighter, not to make it scarier. It was pitched as a trilogy of horror movies, and that's what got Fox to give the greenlight because it wasn't the same old super-hero film stuff we see all over the place and which tey don't do well with any more (see the FF stuff, the non-Logan X-movies etc. and they only said yes because it was to be different in tone and feel than those. The one person semi-involved who was pushing for them to make it horrific was Sienkewicz himself, who felt the movie was too light to match the tone of his art from the original comics. It was marketed as a horror movie, the trailer cut to be a horror movie and audience reactions were it's not scary enough. Most of the reports I see saying they are toning it down seem to come from people who didn't like the horror aspect of it to begin with and felt it didn't fit the property with and seems like more wishful thinking than any kind of informed opinion or insight. -M |
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Post by badwolf on Jan 17, 2018 15:50:17 GMT -5
For comparison, look at Cockrum's art on X-Men #160 (where the X-Men visit Belasco's domain, and Illyana instantly ages up) Brent Anderson drew that issue. Cockrum would have been far less effective! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 12:43:20 GMT -5
Reports are starting to surface that Disney is going to skip theatrical release on this and debut it on the Disney+ streaming service now.
-M
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Post by rberman on Mar 16, 2019 20:12:27 GMT -5
Reports are starting to surface that Disney is going to skip theatrical release on this and debut it on the Disney+ streaming service now. -M Good idea. Don't spoil the characters with a prominently poor appearance. Free them up for The Gifted or something. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Mar 19, 2019 19:08:55 GMT -5
Thought this trailer looked terrible initially. I had completely forgotten about this actually.
I really wish Disney/Marvel would just get all the rights back and do X-Men and FF correctly. Please. I beg thee. Imagine how refreshing it would be to see a new X-Men cast. Start original, work in Wolverine (in his yellow costume obviously) by the second film. Have a meeting with the Hulk by the third film (which would push Hulk #181 from a $3000 book to a $10000 book).
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Post by spoon on Mar 21, 2019 0:19:37 GMT -5
Thought this trailer looked terrible initially. I had completely forgotten about this actually. I really wish Disney/Marvel would just get all the rights back and do X-Men and FF correctly. Please. I beg thee. Imagine how refreshing it would be to see a new X-Men cast. Start original, work in Wolverine (in his yellow costume obviously) by the second film. Have a meeting with the Hulk by the third film (which would push Hulk #181 from a $3000 book to a $10000 book). <iframe width="34.1800000000001" height="4.22" id="MoatPxIOPT0_22069199" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 34.18px; height: 4.22px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1800000000001" height="4.22" id="MoatPxIOPT0_17124022" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1639px; top: -5px; width: 34.18px; height: 4.22px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1800000000001" height="4.22" id="MoatPxIOPT0_48519805" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 151px; width: 34.18px; height: 4.22px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1800000000001" height="4.22" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21414827" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1639px; top: 151px; width: 34.18px; height: 4.22px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> They got the rights back this week. Disney's purchase of the entertainment side of Fox (including the 20th Century Fox movie studio) became official, so now they own the film rights that Fox previously owned. Disney didn't purchase Fox News Channel or Fox Sports. Rupert Murdoch wanted to keep his news channel, and apparently one company owning both Fox Sports and ESPN was going to be too much of concentration in the field of sports broadcasting to survive anti-trust scrutiny. |
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Post by rberman on Apr 5, 2019 20:09:09 GMT -5
The movie may be a stinker, but the group photo at least looks the part.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 0:00:24 GMT -5
Announcement today moved it back to April 2020 (nixing Hulu rumors for mow), as Disney released a slew of release dates and previewed upcoming schedule of releases for Marvel,Star Wars, Avatar and more. Most didn't have specific titles attached to the date, just something vague like Marvel movie release date or Star Wars movie release date, but dates for New Mutants and the Avatar sequels (Also delayed) were given.
-M
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Jan 6, 2020 11:18:09 GMT -5
New trailer 2.5 years later. Looks like it's finally coming out
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