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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 9, 2014 14:29:19 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Batman being a complete dunce in The Long Halloween, content to wait until the next holiday for every murder for over a year. I'm not sure that the so-called world's greatest detective ever did find out what was going on. (The writer would have to figure it out first.)
And the fight between Catwoman and Cheetah in When in Rome.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 9, 2014 15:18:05 GMT -5
 -M The realistic, down-to-earth superheroes, ladies & gents. Apparently, some elected officials take that kind of thing very seriously! |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 9, 2014 15:21:32 GMT -5
By the way, if Charles entered a modern day pro-bodybuilding contest like Mr. Olympia, he'd come in closer to last place with that build. Oh, without a doubt. Atlas looks like a normal, very fit human male in that pic. The problem is that there is nothing in the ad about health or fitness. It is 100% an appeal to male ego and insecurity that promotes thick-headed stereotypes about both men and women. If this product is still being marketed, I hope they've taken a different tack.
(Of course, I say this as a puny runt who's obviously envious of the "huskies" who get all the chicks  .)
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 9, 2014 18:07:59 GMT -5
By the way, if Charles entered a modern day pro-bodybuilding contest like Mr. Olympia, he'd come in closer to last place with that build. Oh, without a doubt. Atlas looks like a normal, very fit human male in that pic. The problem is that there is nothing in the ad about health or fitness. It is 100% an appeal to male ego and insecurity that promotes thick-headed stereotypes about both men and women. If this product is still being marketed, I hope they've taken a different tack.
(Of course, I say this as a puny runt who's obviously envious of the "huskies" who get all the chicks .)
I don't doubt that what you say is true but the entire diet and exercise industry is built on exploiting the ego and insecurity. Atlas made a million off that ad. |
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Post by benday-dot on Aug 9, 2014 19:25:46 GMT -5
Yeah Hercules... right. That could never happen. Cuz, sir you are no Hulk. Why, Hulk, he can unmoor a puny island from its foundations and haul it from one end of the ocean to the other. No problem.  Actually for me this moment of the preposterous has long since passed into the oh yeah Hulk... you really are the most awesome of them all category. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 9, 2014 19:26:16 GMT -5
I don't doubt that what you say is true but the entire diet and exercise industry is built on exploitong the ego and insecurity. Atlas made a million off that ad. Indeed he did. No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the public. And certainly elements of the Atlas strategy are still with us. The execrable Axe Body Spray ads come to mind. But there's a bit more subtlety at work and lip service is at least paid to potential health benefits, longevity, and quality of life.
Atlas' ad assumes that the comic book readership is largely made up of scrawny "runts" who long to be the husky he-men that all women truly desire. That he may have been right doesn't make it any less insulting and offensive.
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Post by travishedgecoke on Aug 9, 2014 20:01:32 GMT -5
There's a mid-70s Detective Comics story where Batman teaches a Huey P Newton riff not to be so racist, or something, that's more than eye rolling and "well-meant."
The Echo arc in Daredevil is too much for me, in that a) Mack has a very awkward ear for dialogue, b) he's way out of his comfort range. Echo neither comes off as hard of hearing nor from the culture or background he's set up for her, but as something fairly placatory and romanticized that just makes me wince.
The mid-70s Thing who was suddenly the old sexist, mildly racist, lovable curmudgeon for awhile, under an obviously young writer (Conway?) is painful to reread and luckily no one's really revisited that characterization.
The straight up "science doesn't work that way" stuff doesn't bother me at all. Yellow Fear Demon! Superboy punch! Hard (@^$*$^ing water and mongoose blood!
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Post by the4thpip on Aug 10, 2014 6:06:41 GMT -5
(would've been great if not for Hulk's shitty haircut) I have the same haircut.  I'm loving how your avatar has the exact same facial expression as that emoticon! |
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Post by the4thpip on Aug 10, 2014 6:08:59 GMT -5
On topic: Reed Richards calling New York City the "biggest city in the world" comes to mind, in Secret Invasion.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 10, 2014 9:21:04 GMT -5
On topic: Reed Richards calling New York City the "biggest city in the world" comes to mind, in Secret Invasion. I agree. He should have said greatest  |
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Post by tolworthy on Aug 10, 2014 10:54:25 GMT -5
the entire diet and exercise industry is built on exploiting the ego and insecurity. Atlas made a million off that ad. In his defence, Atlas sold an idea that did not require buying anything beyond the book. IIRC his "dynamic tension" meant basically using your muscles against themselves. The people who came after Atlas were the villains IMO: they sold weights, chest expanders, protein drinks, and basically exploited the desperate, trying to bleed them dry. Given that bullying is real and the bullied person has very few options, and is unlikely to think clearly, a good exercise regime seems among the better choices IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 11:00:17 GMT -5
the entire diet and exercise industry is built on exploiting the ego and insecurity. Atlas made a million off that ad. In his defence, Atlas sold an idea that did not require buying anything beyond the book. IIRC his "dynamic tension" meant basically using your muscles against themselves. The people who came after Atlas were the villains IMO: they sold weights, chest expanders, protein drinks, and basically exploited the desperate, trying to bleed them dry. Given that bullying is real and the bullied person has very few options, and is unlikely to think clearly, a good exercise regime seems among the better choices IMO. Well it's better than Dim Mak and this guy...deadly secrets come through years of training (took me seven to get a black belt...)  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 11:13:17 GMT -5
I'd also like to nominate this entire book, Superman 75.
I thought this was going to be awesome when I first read it in my single-digit years...but then wondered...why is Superman such a Super-Idiot? Here we have a maniacal monster on the rampage destroying everything in sight and killing indiscriminately...and all Supes does is waste time punching him with the same ineffective punches. Doesn't Superman, like...learn as he goes along?
Why doesn't Supermoron employ street-fighting techniques, where there are no rules? Where your chances of losing get greater with every passing second unless your dirty (but effective) tactics get employed fast. Like a super-kick to Doomsday's balls? Eye-gouging? Arm-breaking? Instead of crap like this.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 11:22:58 GMT -5
Or send him to the Phantom Zone. Or strand him in the prehistoric past. Or get him into space, at least minimizing the colateral damage. Or any of the many strategies he'd used against powerful foes in the past.
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Post by metarog on Aug 10, 2014 11:27:46 GMT -5
It has to be the time in Secret Wars II #2 when the Beyonder is having a bowel movement and Spider-Man shows him the toilet. One of the most powerful entities in the Marvel Universe needs potty training? Ridiculous stuff!!!!
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