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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 17:35:17 GMT -5
Dumbest and the Saddest Avengers Moment of all timeThe Juggling Robot Clown, Avengers #1 (1963)The Set-Up: In many ways, the first issue of the Avengers was by far the worst. Beyond Loki’s involvement as mentioned above, basically nothing happens in the issue besides a big ridiculous brawl with the Hulk, and a bit where Thor wanders off to fight Loki in one of the more psychedelic parts of Asgard. Now, just how ridiculous did that big fight with the Hulk get? This ridiculous: Thanks, Stan. No need to apologize for having your own opinions man. A lot of us here just happen to fully embrace the wackiness of the silver age in a big way. It's silly but also kind of cool to me. If you don't happen to care for the scene then that is totally fine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 17:41:49 GMT -5
Dumbest and the Saddest Avengers Moment of all timeThe Juggling Robot Clown, Avengers #1 (1963)The Set-Up: In many ways, the first issue of the Avengers was by far the worst. Beyond Loki’s involvement as mentioned above, basically nothing happens in the issue besides a big ridiculous brawl with the Hulk, and a bit where Thor wanders off to fight Loki in one of the more psychedelic parts of Asgard. Now, just how ridiculous did that big fight with the Hulk get? This ridiculous: Thanks, Stan. No need to apologize for having your own opinions man. A lot of us here just happen to fully embrace the wackiness of the silver age in a big way. It's silly but also kind of cool to me. If you don't happen to care for the scene then that is totally fine. Thanks Destro for your support here.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 8, 2014 10:48:46 GMT -5
Ha, I'd never seen the back of that! I always wondered why he was carrying a rope. (Maybe to hold his trousers up?)
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 27, 2015 7:45:23 GMT -5
Long live Mechano Hulk !
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Post by Dizzy D on Mar 27, 2015 9:05:05 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Batman being a complete dunce in The Long Halloween, content to wait until the next holiday for every murder for over a year. I'm not sure that the so-called world's greatest detective ever did find out what was going on. (The writer would have to figure it out first.) And the fight between Catwoman and Cheetah in When in Rome. Necro-post, but I recently reread the Long Halloween: Characters being stupid I can handle, but there is that bit with the nailbomb where Batman and Gordon manage to track down the guy who did it by the serial numbers on the nails. In the DC universe, all nails have serial numbers and shopowners keep track of who buys which nails. Somehow I find this less believable than all flying men.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Mar 27, 2015 9:15:20 GMT -5
MechaGodzilla's baffled indignace at the popularity of that Avenger's panel is one of the funniest things I've read on the forums to date. Thanks for that, Mech.
In all serious, I can tell you as a big Hulk fan (he's my favorite Marvel character) that I simply find the scenario amusing as hell. In the context of Lee and Kirby working out the kinks of the early Marvel Universe, this ridiculous scene that rivals Silver Age DC in terms of goofiness, is completely understandable. This is the sort of thing that I like about older comics. The creators had a sense of humor that wasn't isolated to straight parodies and satires, yet they could turn around the next month and do something as emotional as "This Man, This Monster." I like the variety of Silver and Bronze age Marvel and DC. Also, let us not forget, that this was still just before Marvel fully grasped that their audience was skewing older than DC.
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 27, 2015 10:16:21 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Batman being a complete dunce in The Long Halloween, content to wait until the next holiday for every murder for over a year. I'm not sure that the so-called world's greatest detective ever did find out what was going on. (The writer would have to figure it out first.) And the fight between Catwoman and Cheetah in When in Rome. Necro-post, but I recently reread the Long Halloween: Characters being stupid I can handle, but there is that bit with the nailbomb where Batman and Gordon manage to track down the guy who did it by the serial numbers on the nails. In the DC universe, all nails have serial numbers and shopowners keep track of who buys which nails. Somehow I find this less believable than all flying men. I had forgotten that bit about the nails and the serial numbers.
It's a Jeph Loeb story, so there's plenty of REALLY STUPID stuff to keep track of.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 27, 2015 10:26:30 GMT -5
Maybe it's part of the "comic book " reader disrespect given to us by writers , where they think because we accept flying people we will accept real life impossibilities. Part of what makes this genre work is that people with super human powers live in a real world where laws of logic and physics still apply.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Mar 27, 2015 10:47:08 GMT -5
Nails must be really expensive in the DCU if they all have serial numbers. Maybe that's why Gotham always looks so run down? Nobody can afford the ridiculously expensive building supplies to fix stuff.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 27, 2015 10:47:43 GMT -5
Maybe it's part of the "comic book " reader disrespect given to us by writers , where they think because we accept flying people we will accept real life impossibilities. Part of what makes this genre work is that people with super human powers live in a real world where laws of logic and physics still apply.That has never remotely been a part of superhero comics. Particularly not the physics part.
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Post by fanboystranger on Mar 27, 2015 10:52:49 GMT -5
Maybe it's part of the "comic book " reader disrespect given to us by writers , where they think because we accept flying people we will accept real life impossibilities. Part of what makes this genre work is that people with super human powers live in a real world where laws of logic and physics still apply.That has never remotely been a part of superhero comics. Particularly not the physics part. And it's arguable that logic gets tossed out just as much. (Just like in real life.)
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 27, 2015 12:30:54 GMT -5
Maybe it's part of the "comic book " reader disrespect given to us by writers , where they think because we accept flying people we will accept real life impossibilities. Part of what makes this genre work is that people with super human powers live in a real world where laws of logic and physics still apply.That has never remotely been a part of superhero comics. Particularly not the physics part. I beg to differ, SB. Gravity for non super powered people exists. Just like regular people can drown ,get shot, not generate loss limbs. That kind of stuff. Logic is still in effect with the exception of bad writing. It's just in the last 20 years or so that dead hasn't meant dead.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 27, 2015 12:35:55 GMT -5
That has never remotely been a part of superhero comics. Particularly not the physics part. I beg to differ, SB. Gravity for non super powered people exists. Just like regular people can drown ,get shot, not generate loss limbs. That kind of stuff. Logic is still in effect with the exception of bad writing. It's just in the last 20 years or so that dead hasn't meant dead. You can differ all you want. It just isn't so. In a world where magnets, transistors and radiation work like magic, the laws of physics aren't in any way meaningful.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 27, 2015 12:38:20 GMT -5
I guess I want my money back for that Transistor powered heart moniter that I purchased....
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 27, 2015 13:46:53 GMT -5
Maybe it's part of the "comic book " reader disrespect given to us by writers , where they think because we accept flying people we will accept real life impossibilities. Well, we WERE talking about a Jeph Loeb story.
(And I say that as a fan of the first Hush story. The art is so great that it softens my critique of the mediocre and horribly contrived plot and the wildly off-model and nonsensical use of great characters.)
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