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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 12, 2019 22:38:36 GMT -5
I’ve bought vol.4 of Samurai executioner, by the same creators as the famous Lone wolf and cub.
I have a question that the internet doesn’t seem to have an easy answer to: in the process of “turning the story around”, so to speak, so that pages can be read from left to right instead of the original right to left design, is it possible that Dark Horse just flipped them?
I ask because almost everyone in the book wears their clothes with the right side of the kimono over the left, which I believe is quite a fashion faux pas. All samurai also seem to carry their swords on the right side. On the covers, however, everything seems normal: left side of the kimono over the right side, and scabbards on the left.
I tried findind examples of the original japanese pages online but haven’t managed it.
(Great series, by the way).
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 13, 2019 22:20:09 GMT -5
I'm not sure specifically they do for that series, but flipping the art is one technique they use.. it's the easiest (and thus the cheapest and most common) but does lead to weird stuff sometimes. Some series are re drawn in part to avoid that kinda thing.. but if they do something special, they usually mention it in the prologue or end notes or somewhere so you know to appreciate it.
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Post by bran on Jan 31, 2019 14:39:05 GMT -5
I’ve bought vol.4 of Samurai executioner, by the same creators as the famous Lone wolf and cub. I have a question that the internet doesn’t seem to have an easy answer to: in the process of “turning the story around”, so to speak, so that pages can be read from left to right instead of the original right to left design, is it possible that Dark Horse just flipped them? I ask because almost everyone in the book wears their clothes with the right side of the kimono over the left, which I believe is quite a fashion faux pas. All samurai also seem to carry their swords on the right side. On the covers, however, everything seems normal: left side of the kimono over the right side, and scabbards on the left. I tried findind examples of the original japanese pages online but haven’t managed it. (Great series, by the way).
I don't know this as a fact but it appears Lone Wolf and Cub and Samurai Executioner were created with the western layout.
I mean re-arranging _that_ is, besides being daunting task, like adding larger breasts to Mona Lisa.
Other, later Kazuo Koike's sagas New Lone Wolf and Cub and Path of the Assassin are in traditional Japanese layout, while just the order of pages is reversed in Dark Horse releases - so you turn from left to right, but _on the page_ you read from right to left.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 31, 2019 14:56:12 GMT -5
I’ve bought vol.4 of Samurai executioner, by the same creators as the famous Lone wolf and cub. I have a question that the internet doesn’t seem to have an easy answer to: in the process of “turning the story around”, so to speak, so that pages can be read from left to right instead of the original right to left design, is it possible that Dark Horse just flipped them? I ask because almost everyone in the book wears their clothes with the right side of the kimono over the left, which I believe is quite a fashion faux pas. All samurai also seem to carry their swords on the right side. On the covers, however, everything seems normal: left side of the kimono over the right side, and scabbards on the left. I tried findind examples of the original japanese pages online but haven’t managed it. (Great series, by the way).
I don't know this as a fact but it appears Lone Wolf and Cub and Samurai Executioner were created with the western layout.
I mean re-arranging _that_ is, besides being daunting task, like adding larger breasts to Mona Lisa.
Other, later Kazuo Koike's sagas New Lone Wolf and Cub and Path of the Assassin are in traditional Japanese layout, while just the order of pages is reversed in Dark Horse releases - so you turn from left to right, but _one the page_ you read from right to left.
That's interesting, bran, but I remain puzzled. Why would Samurai Executioner have been originally designed as a western strip, since it was to be serialized in a Japanese magazine? I also don't get why Japanese covers such as we can see here do have the orientation I would expect, with scabbards on the left side and the left side of the kimono over the right side. (Also, in the Dark Horse reprints, characters seem to be left-handed most of the time. While by no mean impossible, it is still a little unlikely). Finding some original art or would resolve the issue, but I can't seem to find any! Anyhoo... great series, either way! |
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Post by bran on Jan 31, 2019 16:34:39 GMT -5
I don't know this as a fact but it appears Lone Wolf and Cub and Samurai Executioner were created with the western layout.
I mean re-arranging _that_ is, besides being daunting task, like adding larger breasts to Mona Lisa.
Other, later Kazuo Koike's sagas New Lone Wolf and Cub and Path of the Assassin are in traditional Japanese layout, while just the order of pages is reversed in Dark Horse releases - so you turn from left to right, but _one the page_ you read from right to left.
That's interesting, bran, but I remain puzzled. Why would Samurai Executioner have been originally designed as a western strip, since it was to be serialized in a Japanese magazine? I also don't get why Japanese covers such as we can see here do have the orientation I would expect, with scabbards on the left side and the left side of the kimono over the right side. (Also, in the Dark Horse reprints, characters seem to be left-handed most of the time. While by no mean impossible, it is still a little unlikely). Finding some original art or would resolve the issue, but I can't seem to find any! Anyhoo... great series, either way!
Perhaps he wanted to conquer the western market from the get-go. Kurosawa's 'samurai movies', which hugely influenced his work were smash-hits in the west, while his other contemporary/non historical fiction went mostly unnoticed.
Now I am reading Lone Wolf and Cub for the first time, and the first volume is basically a collection of short stories, perfect for western-publications (where short story was the king; things are different now with Saga and Walking Dead of course).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 1:20:20 GMT -5
I was over on the other side of town today and popped in to the local Ollie's to see if they got any restocks on their graphic novels and trades. They had the collector's edition of the The Fifth Beatle hardcover OGN...  with an MSRP of $49.99 marked at $9.99, plus we had a 20% off coupon from Ollie's reward club (earned buying all the cheap DC trades on my last trip there(, so that bad boy came home with me. It's a book I had wanted to check out, but was eyeing the $19.99 standard edition rather then the deluxe edition, but hadn't pulled the trigger on it yet, so when I saw it there today I was glad I had waited. I also picked up a few other cheap DC trades... Superman For All Seasons (I had 3 of the 4 issues, but buying the trade cost about the same as what buying the issue I needed would have cost) Earth 2 Society Vol. 1-4 Animal Man (Lemire run) Vol. 4 Batman: Gordon of Gotham (collecting 3 minis-Gordon of Gotham 1-4, Batman:GCPD 1-4, and Batman:Gordon's Law 1-4) Metal Men Full Metal Jacket (collecting the Len Wein mini that appeared as part of the Legends of Tomorrow anthology) Superman: Emperor Joker and I finally broke down and bought some Legion to try with Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes: The Dominator War by Waid and Kitson. -M |
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Post by rberman on Mar 8, 2019 22:28:53 GMT -5
In 2016, IDW published Revolution, which launched the Hasbroverse with G.I. Joe, Transformers, Micronauts, ROM, M.A.S.K., and Action Man. Did you read it? Me neither. But I did just get and read Art Baltazar's kindergarten parody of it: Aw Yeah Revolution! (#1-3) is in his Tiny Titans style that my kids love. But where Tiny Titans is a collection of 1-2 page gag stories, Aw Yeah Revolution! is a legit mini-series (albeit very tongue in cheek) in which Baron Karza uses a magic gem to kidnap heroes (ROM, Snake Eyes, and Optimus Prime) to the Microverse, where they fight. Then everybody travels to our Earth and they fight some more, with COBRA joining in and turning Optimus Prime into an evil robot, and an asteroid full of Dire Wraiths crashes the party, and... well, it's all very silly, but fun for those of us who grew up reading all those characters in Marvel's early 80s licensed stories, so IDW and Baltazar should give a big "Thank You" to Larry Hama and Bill Mantlo and the others writers who made coherent stories about these toys 35 years ago.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 22:44:54 GMT -5
Got my big box o'Dirk, i.e. the fulfillment for my Kickstarter pledge for Tales of Mr. Rhee Vol. 4 by Dirk Manning, Seth Damoose and Anthony D. Lee.  Pledged at the I'm new here level and got all 4 volumes of Nightmare World (I had Vol. 1 previously) and all 3 previous volumes of Tales of Mr. Rhee (again I had Vol. 1 already) and the Love Stories to Die For trade. Stretch goals included the Tales of Mr. Rhee bonus comic (with stories by Dirk, Victor Dandridge, Michael Watson and others, the print of Ben Templesmith's cover for Vol. 4 and the Mr. Rhee at the beach print by K. Lynn Smith. Got lots of good horror reading ahead of me. -M |
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Post by urrutiap on Apr 4, 2019 20:50:43 GMT -5
Current new comics I bought recently
Gideon Falls # 9
Return of Wolverine # 2 and 3
Snotgirl # 13
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 17:30:57 GMT -5
Was at a local Goodwill store looking through the books for vintage paperbacks and found a basically brand new copy of March Book One for a buck. I also found the Persepolis movie on DVD for $3 (as well as a couple of Steve Reeves epics, and a bunch of Louis Lamour novels and 6 of the 7 Narnia books in the paperback edition I grew up with [as opposed to the giant omnibus edition we currently have] for a buck each).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 20:43:14 GMT -5
Picked this up while at my LCS today...  -M |
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 20, 2019 17:27:00 GMT -5
Was at a local Goodwill store looking through the books for vintage paperbacks and found a basically brand new copy of March Book One for a buck. I also found the Persepolis movie on DVD for $3 (as well as a couple of Steve Reeves epics, and a bunch of Louis Lamour novels and 6 of the 7 Narnia books in the paperback edition I grew up with [as opposed to the giant omnibus edition we currently have] for a buck each). -M -
Had you read the Persepolis source material before ?
It's up there with Maus IMO and the movie was brilliant. Saw it in the theater.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 23:09:45 GMT -5
Was at a local Goodwill store looking through the books for vintage paperbacks and found a basically brand new copy of March Book One for a buck. I also found the Persepolis movie on DVD for $3 (as well as a couple of Steve Reeves epics, and a bunch of Louis Lamour novels and 6 of the 7 Narnia books in the paperback edition I grew up with [as opposed to the giant omnibus edition we currently have] for a buck each). -M - Had you read the Persepolis source material before ? It's up there with Maus IMO and the movie was brilliant. Saw it in the theater.
I've read about half the first volume of Persepolis. I don't own it and had borrowed it from the library and had to return it before I finished it. I like what I read, I just haven't gotten around to picking it up again to finish it or to buying a copy. -M |
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 20, 2019 23:45:26 GMT -5
I lent the complete collected version to a friend, which translates into, I no longer have a copy.
I had that dvd somewhere.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 23, 2019 13:41:37 GMT -5
I lent the complete collected version to a friend, which translates into, I no longer have a copy. Shades of my Hulk collection. Except I didn't lend it to a friend, a lent it to a friend's kid brother. I have learned since.  |
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