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Post by Red Oak Kid on Dec 19, 2016 20:25:10 GMT -5
I was no longer buying comics when Swimsuit Issues became the rage.
I'm wondering if anyone has any memories or opinions on Swimsuit Issues?
What was the first one?
Are they considered to be comic books or are they a totally different offshoot of comics.
I'm not looking for scans of them. There is another thread devoted to good girl art covers.
I'm just wondering how and when these became popular and if you have any specific memories concerning them.
Thanks
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 19, 2016 20:50:57 GMT -5
I know they did a bunch in the 90s when the Image guys took over the industry... I'm not a fan. In general, I feel like such things just reinforce bad stereotypes of comics and comic buyers, and I'd rather there weren't out there as much as they are. That said, I don't begrudge them the work if it pays .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 21:13:43 GMT -5
Back in the late 90's - I brought a couple of Swimsuit Issues from Image Comics and they were a rage back then and I got about 3-4 of them during that time frame. Later on, they even did a Lingerie Special Edition and then the complaints came from the female comic book readers and demanding that they want something for them. That's when it's started to died down and then pretty soon (in my area) they stopped doing these specials. Many local comic store owners refuses to sell them because of the problems of dealing with complaints with the female readers. I know that I'm guilty of buying some of them but at the end - I thought it was a waste of money to buy this stuff and therefore I felt that Comic Book Industry should be concentrating on other things and that's why these issues did not do so well with certain readers. After 30 years age, I've stopped paying attention to them and that's why I decided to leave them alone. I know Marvel did some so did DC Comics in a lesser degree than Image. Image was big on this and that's why they took a gamble on this and that why they did not do a good job on it. I like Image in the 80's and after that they all went downhill when my favorite title WILDcats fell apart and that's was end of my interests in Image Comics.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 21:16:43 GMT -5
I couldn't understand why artists who drew horrible looking women were trying to make them look better by wearing swimsuits. This sucks more ass than an enema.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 19, 2016 21:56:12 GMT -5
I seem to remember that Amazing Heroes did a couple of these before the comics companies did. I never really saw the sense in them. I certainly never purchased any.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 22:04:10 GMT -5
I only really supported ones by artists who's work I admired. . . the first one I ever bought (and I did buy a couple of them over the years) was the "Lady Death" ones -- that may have been among the first of these type of books? And I bought it purely because I was a huge fan of Stephen Hughes' work on the character (whom he created with Pulido). I certainly wasn't buying it because of the subject matter, but purely because I enjoyed the artist's work. (and I never bothered with them once they ran out of his work, and started doing them using other artists) tho I never bought any of the "Premium" versions. . leather covers?. . never really understood THAT fad.
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Post by urrutiap on Dec 19, 2016 23:17:51 GMT -5
I remember the x Men swimsuit poster magazines. The X Men males wore skimpy swimming trunks while Psylocke was hogging the whole swimsuit specials.
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Post by Randle-El on Dec 19, 2016 23:53:15 GMT -5
I couldn't understand why artists who drew horrible looking women were trying to make them look better by wearing swimsuits. This sucks more ass than an enema. I'm no Liefeld fan, but that's actually not a terrible representation of the female form. I mean, he did do this one...
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Post by Warmonger on Dec 20, 2016 0:26:09 GMT -5
Never cared for them
Personally, I prefer real women in swimsuits.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 20, 2016 2:48:06 GMT -5
I seem to remember that Amazing Heroes did a couple of these before the comics companies did. I never really saw the sense in them. I certainly never purchased any. Yeah, Amazing Heroes was doing them in the early 90s and I had a couple. Atomica's A1 had one, though, like Amazing Heroes, it was a bit more tongue in cheek and included guys. There were a couple where they mixed different characters, not just cheesecake. I didn't have a problem with that, since the were mostly satirizing it. There were worse things out there, especially some of that "Bad Girl" crap.
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Post by berkley on Dec 20, 2016 4:27:01 GMT -5
I had stopped reading Marvel comics by the time they started the swimsuit issues so they were off my radar altogether. From the ones I've seen on the stands or online, the artwork is so contrary to my taste that I can't enjoy them even as straight cheesecake.
Maybe I'd have found them more attractive if they'd started a few years earlier, when I was more in tune with Marvel's "house style", but just thinking about the concept itself I don't really see the point: most superhero costumes are already as revealing and sexy as any swimsuit, so where's the added attraction?
Besides, even on a pure cheesecake level, I'd enjoy it more if it was part of a good story, etc. From that perspective, I think of them as the same kind of thing as those Marvel Handbooks, which I also dislike, and partly for similar reasons: they take what should be just one factor of a well-made comic and isolate it as if it's so important it can stand on its own. With the Handbooks it's "power levels" or whatever the accepted term is; with the Swimsuits it's the sex appeal or eroticism. I'm capable of appreciating and enjoying either when they're more or less skilfully employed as part of an involving story, but neither is enough on its own to sustain a full issue, in my experience - let alone an entire series.
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 20, 2016 10:10:56 GMT -5
Idiotic beyond all belief, one of the stupidest things in the history of comics.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 20, 2016 10:19:32 GMT -5
I seem to remember that Amazing Heroes did a couple of these before the comics companies did. I never really saw the sense in them. I certainly never purchased any. When I had a subscription to Amazing Heroes, they just came in the mail like every other issue. There were some good artists that contributed to them, but overall as genre it was a product of its time. The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue is a worldwide smash in sales, comic companies thought it would be the same.....
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 20, 2016 10:56:15 GMT -5
As I know you all can imagine ... I own a *ahem* "handful" of them. I don't see them as anything worse that Sports Illustrated's issues? What's gals in swimsuit got to do with sports? Or Maxim or GQ? What's scantily clad gals got to do with men's fashion? Or lingerie and swimsuit specials in Men's Health (and other men's health related magazines)? Comics weren't the only thing in the 90's trying to attract the large demographic of heterosexual men to buy their product. If anything, comics were just following suit with everything else.
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Post by MDG on Dec 20, 2016 11:12:03 GMT -5
It's a joke that's funny the first time.
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