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Post by rom on Jan 5, 2017 14:44:19 GMT -5
Creating this thread due to the recent announcement of the much-anticipated (by me, at least) Savage She-Hulk Marvel Masterworks volume #1, due to be released in August 2017. Really looking forward to seeking this underrated/underappreciated series finally reprinted in color - for the first time. This is my favorite She-hulk series, and I like this even better than the much more popular (and later) John Byrne Sensational She-hulk series. I find Savage She-hulk to be much grittier & intense, and it intentionally reminded me much more of the early savage Hulk stories. I would actually have preferred classic She-Hulk in an Epic line rather than a MMW line; more issues could have been reprinted, it would have been a lot less expensive, and to me the TPB format is fine. Plus, I think the reproduction in Epics is quite good, and for the most part is even exceptional. That being said, I've been waiting for SSH to be reprinted in color for years; so, the MMW is much appreciated. Also, it looks like this will be "done in two" series, so hopefully the 2nd one will be out in 2018. Here's a cover gallery for this series: comicvine.gamespot.com/the-savage-she-hulk/4050-3053/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 11:03:25 GMT -5
Rom,
Thanks for letting us know about it and I really want this Masterworks so bad because I'm a fan of She-Hulk!
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Post by The Captain on Jan 6, 2017 13:10:32 GMT -5
This is one Marvel Bronze Age title that I've never read any issues from. Any specific issue numbers that a first-timer should give a shot?
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Post by rom on Jan 6, 2017 13:54:09 GMT -5
Good question - I haven't read the series in years; I got the Essential volume back in the 200X's, but could never finish my way through this due to the lack of color - which really took away from my enjoyment. I guess I remember the series as a whole - more than any specific issues. This Savage She Hulk character was a lot more violent & Hulk-like than her later "kinder, gentler" incarnations - without being a Hulk clone. I also liked the white, ripped up outfit she had on in the series - more than any other subsequent "outfits". As a pre-teen male when this series was originally out, I will admit to thinking that She-hulk was somewhat "hot". The idea of a mild-mannered woman that turns into a tough, savage woman that doesn't take any crap was somewhat....interesting, to say the least Even as an adult, I find tough women to be kind of cool - the boxer Rhonda Rousey comes to mind
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 6, 2017 15:08:09 GMT -5
The Michael Golden covers early in the run were a big draw for me.
Bringing in Richard Rory (from Steve Gerber's Man-Thing) was also a nice touch.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 6, 2017 15:21:14 GMT -5
I loved that series. One of the most underrated of its time. What ever happened to Zapper?
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jan 6, 2017 17:12:40 GMT -5
I was never a fan of this series but can remember reading about half of it. Trying to pass it off as a masterwork is as laughable as the earlier black and white reprint describing it as essential. I prefer to see distinctive characters rather than spin-offs created from the need to protect trade marks. When Jim Starlin first heard about the character, he was supposed to have suggested that they do a female version of It the Living Colossus and call her She-It.
I thought the early issues were pedestrian, suffering from bland artwork and a lack of worthy adversaries. Things inproved a bit later when Frank Springer replaced Chic Stone as Mike Vosburg's regular finisher. My favourite issues were probably #13 & 14, which made good use of two of Dave Kraft's favourite characters, Man Wolf and Hellcat.
I vaguely remember reading a review in a fanzine that said a page in one issue appeared to have been drawn in the style of Brian Bolland - does anyone know which issue this might have been?
Dr Daniel "Zapper" Ridge turned up again with Richard Rory in Sensational She-Hulk #36 by John Byrne and later appeared in the To Die and Live in LA storyline in #52-57, but seems to have vanished after that.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jan 6, 2017 18:53:55 GMT -5
Did Mike Vosburg do a lot of the art? I really like his work.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 6, 2017 23:06:47 GMT -5
Trying to pass it off as a masterwork is as laughable as the earlier black and white reprint describing it as essential. Well, not really. If you're a fan of the series and character, I can definitely see that you'd call a collection of these issues a "masterwork". To some, the idea of any comic book being described as a masterwork or essential is utterly laughable. Luckily, we're a bit more enlightened than that here, But I don't see much difference between giving She-Hulk the Masterworks treatment and, say, Venus or the Rawhide Kid.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jan 7, 2017 9:54:08 GMT -5
Did Mike Vosburg do a lot of the art? I really like his work. The first issue was by Stan Lee and John Buscema, but the rest of the series was written by David Anthony Kraft and drawn by Mike Vosburg, who tended to do breakdowns rather than full pencils. The final issue had a "diverse hands" inking job, including a couple of pages where Voz inked himself.
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Post by MDG on Jan 7, 2017 10:24:46 GMT -5
Did Mike Vosburg do a lot of the art? I really like his work. The first issue was by Stan Lee and John Buscema, but the rest of the series was written by David Anthony Kraft and drawn by Mike Vosburg, who tended to do breakdowns rather than full pencils. The final issue had a "diverse hands" inking job, including a couple of pages where Voz inked himself. I got the feeling that that first issue had been sitting on the shelf a few years, though I could never figure out what prompted them to release it when they did. Was the Hulk TV show still on the air?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 11:06:01 GMT -5
The first issue was by Stan Lee and John Buscema, but the rest of the series was written by David Anthony Kraft and drawn by Mike Vosburg, who tended to do breakdowns rather than full pencils. The final issue had a "diverse hands" inking job, including a couple of pages where Voz inked himself. I got the feeling that that first issue had been sitting on the shelf a few years, though I could never figure out what prompted them to release it when they did. Was the Hulk TV show still on the air? Yes it was. She Hulk was supposedly created by Marvel in case the TV show created a female Hulk. That way Marvel would have the rights.
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Post by rom on Jan 8, 2017 1:12:48 GMT -5
Well, I see what some mean by saying Savage She Hulk wasn't really deserving of a MMW due to it not really being a great series. Well, I agree about the MMW format not being the best for this title, but I disagree that this wasn't a great series.
The reason I'm not thrilled with the MMW format is the highly expensive price-tag. This series would have been much better served in a series of Trades (maybe the Epic format), or even a done-in-one Omnibus.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 8, 2017 3:33:56 GMT -5
Did Mike Vosburg do a lot of the art? I really like his work. Voz inked himself. That must have taken a while to scrub off...
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Post by rom on Aug 18, 2017 13:31:56 GMT -5
Just got my Savage She-hulk MMW #1 today. Great volume, and long anticipated by me. It contains SSH #1-14, and also has some great extras, which include: some uncolored art pages, sketches, & Marvel SSH house-ads.
I haven't delved into this too much yet, but I am enjoying the stories & the art, while not exceptional, is decent. There are also some amazing covers with art by the iconic Michael Golden.
Looking forward to Volume #2, which I hope hits next year.
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