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Post by tingramretro on Feb 20, 2017 18:49:25 GMT -5
e's not right. Neither are you. This series remains one of my favourite DC titles, regardless of how many seem not to appreciate it. I enjoyed it but here was a underlying reason that Batman wrote about the JSA adventures, I think he was trying to solve a mystery from beyond the grave. I hope I'm remembering correctly. You are remembering correctly. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 20, 2017 18:50:14 GMT -5
I remember Infinite Crisis as being unreadable the second time. But the reason was that it relies on the current events , at the time, happening in the DCU to make it work. I guess it also crapped all over the original selfless sacrifices by The GA Superman and Superboy, which left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 20, 2017 19:00:10 GMT -5
Slam's right. I forced myself to reread this last year. The final three issues were like castor oil. And this is from someone who really wanted that series to be great. The covers are excellent, though. I guess we have to agree to disagree. This is Roy at his worst: the complete opposite of fascinating and well crafted. The plot is a convoluted mess, the art uninspired, the motive unclear. I want to say that Roy needed more time and space to tell the story because it's all so rushed and crushed, but the problem with Roy when he gets like this is that his lack of disciplined storytelling expands to fill the number of issues he's given. He's not right. Neither are you. That makes three of us.  Take a breath and de-SNKTT. I love lots of crappy comics, too. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 20, 2017 19:04:34 GMT -5
America vs. the Justice Society-as compelling as reading a car-repair manual.
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Post by spoon on Feb 20, 2017 20:24:02 GMT -5
When I first started reading comics as a wee lad, "The Trial of the Flash" storyline was going on. I read a few issues. A few years back, DC came out with one of the their B&W Showcase Presents TPBs of the storyline. I read it and was underwhelmed.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 20, 2017 20:25:05 GMT -5
When I first started reading comics as a wee lad, "The Trial of the Flash" storyline was going on. I read a few issues. A few years back, DC came out with one of the their B&W Showcase Presents TPBs of the storyline. I read it and was underwhelmed. It was pretty damn underwhelming when it was new also. |
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Post by spoon on Feb 20, 2017 20:28:12 GMT -5
When I first started reading comics as a wee lad, "The Trial of the Flash" storyline was going on. I read a few issues. A few years back, DC came out with one of the their B&W Showcase Presents TPBs of the storyline. I read it and was underwhelmed. It was pretty damn underwhelming when it was new also. I was 5 or 6 years old, so I think my standards were different. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 20, 2017 20:38:58 GMT -5
It wasn't. It was a fascinating and well crafted exercise in pulling a lot of stories together into a cohesive history. I think you and I look for very different things in a story. Slam's right. Of course he is. As if there could be any doubt. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 20, 2017 20:46:55 GMT -5
When I first started reading comics as a wee lad, "The Trial of the Flash" storyline was going on. I read a few issues. A few years back, DC came out with one of the their B&W Showcase Presents TPBs of the storyline. I read it and was underwhelmed. It was pretty damn underwhelming when it was new also. The real trial was reading it. |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 21, 2017 2:21:02 GMT -5
He's not right. Neither are you. That makes three of us. Take a breath and de-SNKTT. I love lots of crappy comics, too. Yes, but you see the point I was trying to make is: it's not a crappy comic. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 21, 2017 7:24:50 GMT -5
It was pretty damn underwhelming when it was new also. I don't agree but that's a funny line. |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 21, 2017 10:00:37 GMT -5
I personally thought the trial storyline was the only time te pre-Crisis Flash was remotely interesting. Well, that and when Iris died. The rest of the time Barry Allen was basically just a nice guy with no discernible personality fighting equally one dimensional villains.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 21, 2017 10:31:26 GMT -5
Heroes like Hal Jordan and Barry had no edge and had interchangeable personalities with many of the DC characters. They redefined Hal as a daredevil in the 90's, It's too bad he wasn't that way from the beginning.
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Post by shaxper on Feb 21, 2017 10:37:27 GMT -5
Heroes like Hal Jordan and Barry had no edge and had interchangeable personalities with many of the DC characters. They redefined Hal as a daredevil in the 90's, It's too bad he wasn't that way from the beginning. I disagree. I never read Sliver age Flash, but Silver Age GL was a devil-may-care cad. Whereas other heroes of the time were seemingly born righteous, he was more of an everyman trying to live up to the heroic standard. Silver Age DC didn't tend to do internal characterization all that overtly, but it was there. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 21, 2017 10:41:02 GMT -5
Heroes like Hal Jordan and Barry had no edge and had interchangeable personalities with many of the DC characters. They redefined Hal as a daredevil in the 90's, It's too bad he wasn't that way from the beginning. I disagree. I never read Sliver age Flash, but Silver Age GL was a devil-may-care cad. Whereas other heroes of the time were seemingly born righteous, he was more of an everyman trying to live up to the heroic standard. Silver Age DC didn't tend to do internal characterization all that overtly, but it was there. I only ever saw him exhibit that personality in the JL Year one mini. |
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