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Post by coke & comics on May 20, 2018 14:41:54 GMT -5
1. X2: X-Men United 2. X-Men: Days of Future Past 3. Logan 4. X-Men 5. Deadpool 6. X-Men: First Class 7. The Wolverine 8. X-Men: The Last Stand 9. X-Men: Apocalypse 10. X-Men Origins: Wolverine I could easily permute 2-4. Any of those could be #2. I find it hard to compare the 3 And uncertain about order of 9-10 because it's been too long since I've seen Origins. Inspired by Deadpool 2, and since it was on HBO, I watched Origins for the first time in 9 years and can confirm that it is solidly a tier below Apocalypse and the worst X-Men film. And fits in well with the bottom tier of superhero films. I think I place it just above the 1990 Captain America film. The worst part was the animated claws. His claws pop out and they're cartoons. It looks like a scene from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. And the Deadpool movies prove Ryan Reynolds was not at fault for the film's take on Deadpool. It was all the writing and directing. I rewatched Logan and Deadpool this week as well. Otherwise my ordering hasn't changed, though Logan and Days of Future Past I still struggle to compare. Throw Deadpool 2 after First Class. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 15:41:54 GMT -5
I'd go: 1. Logan (went a bit awry towards the end, but so nearly a really great film) 2. Deadpool (large gap) 3. X2 (not bad, but some dire acting from Cyclops, Storm, Pyro, Rogue, ...) 4. Days of Future Past 5. First Class (nearly really good, but all the villains were awful) 6. The Wolverine (that was also nearly a great film, but oh the 3rd act!  ) 7. Deadpool 2 (the GotG2 of the X-Men world. At least on a single viewing) 8. X-Men (Jackman was great as Wolverine, but most of the rest of the cast's acting was terrible, and the 3rd act is dreadful)
(gap) 9. Last Stand (the Spider-Man 3 of the X-Men world) (large gap) 10. Apocalypse (yawning chasm) 11. X-Men Fiascos: Wolverine (the Suicide Squad of the X-Men world) The bottom two are so bad, that there's actually a DCEU film* that I'd rank higher. Maybe even the bottom 3 - Last Stand is a really poor film, but it has enjoyable bits in it - Kelsey Grammar as Beast, for one. The bottom one might even be worse than more than one DCEU film, which isn't something I can say often (* Wonder Woman, FWIW - which I think is a dreadful film) |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 6, 2018 17:19:02 GMT -5
Just want to thank you wonderful folks for this tremendous honor:  I guess I owe you reviews of Logan and Deadpool 2 now  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 14:29:32 GMT -5
FWIW, CBR (which IMHO has taken a turn for the better over the last few weeks, after being virtually unreadable since the forum reset debacle), has their rating of the X-Men movies here: www.cbr.com/every-x-men-movie-ranked-by-critics/Their list broadly agrees with mine (their 6-8 are the same as mine, but in a different order, but there's not a lot in those), but they swap the first Deadpool and DoFP, which I think it much harder to justify |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 20, 2018 6:13:43 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm more bothered by getting a thorough explanation for how the adamantium injection works and then seeing these prestine, razor sharp claws come out. It didn't take any degree of thinking to realize that made no damn sense. I watched Wolverine : Origins again and I wanted to know about this point about the sharp claws. I understand that there's no reason why it would come out that way but why did you accept it in the comics origin? |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 20, 2018 6:35:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm more bothered by getting a thorough explanation for how the adamantium injection works and then seeing these prestine, razor sharp claws come out. It didn't take any degree of thinking to realize that made no damn sense. I watched Wolverine : Origins again and I wanted to know about this point about the sharp claws. I understand that there's no reason why it would come out that way but why did you accept it in the comics origin? Wolverine didn't have an origin back when I was reading X-Men, and I preferred it that way But if you were going to give him this origin, how much more effort would it have taken to explain that they installed weaponized claws into his hands? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 20, 2018 8:03:22 GMT -5
The way I understood it they didn't Inject him , they painstakingly place piece of adamantium bone by bone. Including the claws.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 20, 2018 9:03:12 GMT -5
The way I understood it they didn't Inject him , they painstakingly place piece of adamantium bone by bone. Including the claws. Here is the scene in two parts: Sure seems to imply that the injections are the direct cause of the claws. And really, wouldn't the adamantium solidify in his veins and vital organs too? Is the idea supposed to be that his healing factor is actually stronger than adamantium and able to eliminate it where it gets in the way? I thoroughly agree that carefully installing the adamantium would have made a hell of a lot more sense, but that isn't where the movie went. |
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Post by aquagoat on Sept 23, 2018 8:36:12 GMT -5
I see the X-Men series like this...
Prologue: First Class
First act: X-Men
Second act: X2
Finale: Days of Future Past
Everything else is gravy.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 23, 2018 19:27:29 GMT -5
The way I understood it they didn't Inject him , they painstakingly place piece of adamantium bone by bone. Including the claws. Here is the scene in two parts: Sure seems to imply that the injections are the direct cause of the claws. And really, wouldn't the adamantium solidify in his veins and vital organs too? Is the idea supposed to be that his healing factor is actually stronger than adamantium and able to eliminate it where it gets in the way? I thoroughly agree that carefully installing the adamantium would have made a hell of a lot more sense, but that isn't where the movie went. Shax, I meant IN THE COMICS they installed all the bones piece by piece. |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 23, 2018 23:16:17 GMT -5
Here is the scene in two parts: Sure seems to imply that the injections are the direct cause of the claws. And really, wouldn't the adamantium solidify in his veins and vital organs too? Is the idea supposed to be that his healing factor is actually stronger than adamantium and able to eliminate it where it gets in the way? I thoroughly agree that carefully installing the adamantium would have made a hell of a lot more sense, but that isn't where the movie went. Shax, I meant IN THE COMICS they installed all the bones piece by piece. Ah, yup. That is ultimately the explanation they went with. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 7:54:08 GMT -5
Official Dark Phoenix trailer is out (no longer called X-Men: Dark Phoenix, possibly to try to make an association with the likes of Logan & Deadpool and avoid memories of the trainwreck of Age of Apocalypse)
It looks like garbage IMHO - all the cliches from AoA and the previous X films, some wooden acting, and it looks like they're crashing another storyline into Dark Phoenix (again!) to justify Magneto's presence. Sorry @mrp, it's yet another Eeyore reaction to a trailer from me
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Post by badwolf on Sept 27, 2018 13:12:09 GMT -5
I think it actually looks okay but I'm tired of re-dos. Last Stand was lousy but just accept it and move on... there are a myriad of other X-stories out there... or *gasp* write a new one?
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Post by Rob Allen on Sept 27, 2018 13:55:15 GMT -5
If this one is a hit, we'll have sequels to look forward to... Dark Tucson.... Dark Flagstaff... Dark Yuma...
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 27, 2018 14:01:45 GMT -5
If this one is a hit, we'll have sequels to look forward to... Dark Tucson.... Dark Flagstaff... Dark Yuma... I want to see 3:10 to Dark Yuma. |
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