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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 17:11:45 GMT -5
Official Dark Phoenix trailer is out (no longer called X-Men: Dark Phoenix, possibly to try to make an association with the likes of Logan & Deadpool and avoid memories of the trainwreck of Age of Apocalypse) It looks like garbage IMHO - all the cliches from AoA and the previous X films, some wooden acting, and it looks like they're crashing another storyline into Dark Phoenix (again!) to justify Magneto's presence. Sorry @mrp, it's yet another Eeyore reaction to a trailer from me I wasn't impressed by the trailer either. I'll probably end up seeing it at some point because my wife loves the X-Men movies so she will want to see it regardless of how the trailer looks. I think this one will have to do gonzo at the box office or else the X-franchise will get wiped clean and rebuilt by the MCU once the Disney takeover is finalized and all in production X-movies are released or scrapped. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 12:03:33 GMT -5
I'll skip the Dark Phoenix Movie coming out on Valentine Day too ... not impressed by the trailer by Simon Garth here.
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Post by rberman on Sept 28, 2018 13:28:47 GMT -5
I think it actually looks okay but I'm tired of re-dos. Last Stand was lousy but just accept it and move on... there are a myriad of other X-stories out there... or *gasp* write a new one? I actually don't want to see a new one. That's the DC approach: Lift out the characters and try to make up your own story. The results have been abysmal. Marvel has done much better mining continuity for story elements. And since I pretend that "The Last Stand" never happened, "Dark Phoenix" is uncharted territory. Despite having felt burned before, I am cautiously optimistic about this film. Somebody need to play the "Hellfire Club" role of encouraging Jean down the dark path, and since the Hellfire Club was already used in First Class, why not Magneto? It seems like it's going to be a character driven piece without an Apocalypse-type "baddie just because" character, which is good. That said, what I would really like to see is for the X-Men to be Phase 6 of the MCU. Stick a Shi'ar somewhere in Captain Marvel and gradually build them up as an MCU presence, maybe in Guardians 3. Then tell the actual Dark Phoenix story. Except for Eric the Red. Please, no. |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 28, 2018 13:29:33 GMT -5
I avoid trailers pretty much always. They seldom give an accurate feel for the film, especially since they are edited together and given an audio track by a company completely unaffiliated with the film.
Dark Phoenix is THE film I'm waiting on this year. I absolutely see how it can crash and burn like the previous Dark Phoenix film, but I see so much potential in this franchise right now, and so I will continue to hope. If nothing else, any film with McAvoy playing Xavier is never a waste of time.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 28, 2018 15:10:56 GMT -5
I think it actually looks okay but I'm tired of re-dos. Last Stand was lousy but just accept it and move on... there are a myriad of other X-stories out there... or *gasp* write a new one? I actually don't want to see a new one. That's the DC approach: Lift out the characters and try to make up your own story. The results have been abysmal. Marvel has done much better mining continuity for story elements. And since I pretend that "The Last Stand" never happened, "Dark Phoenix" is uncharted territory. I've actually liked the DC films, though I still haven't seen Justice League (it's always out at the library!) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 15:23:35 GMT -5
I've actually liked the DC films, though I still haven't seen Justice League (it's always out at the library!) With a streak of good luck like that, it's time to be buying lottery tickets  |
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Post by rberman on Sept 29, 2018 19:35:58 GMT -5
Whoops, right after the trailer release, Fox moved the release of Dark Phoenix from Feb 2019 to June 2019, putting it not long before the New Mutants film (currently slated for August 2019 after abandoning an April 2018 original release). The Gambit film has no director and has been pushed back as well. Fox appears to be in massive disarray and should just staaaaaaahp.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 29, 2018 20:44:47 GMT -5
I was wondering what was going on with the New Mutants movie.
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Post by rberman on Sept 29, 2018 21:59:24 GMT -5
I was wondering what was going on with the New Mutants movie. They kinda made it then threw it out and hired a new director and made it again. Doesn’t bode well. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 22:40:11 GMT -5
Whoops, right after the trailer release, Fox moved the release of Dark Phoenix from Feb 2019 to June 2019, putting it not long before the New Mutants film (currently slated for August 2019 after abandoning an April 2018 original release). The Gambit film has no director and has been pushed back as well. Fox appears to be in massive disarray and should just staaaaaaahp. They've also hinted the Gambit movie will be a romantic comedy for what it's worth. -M |
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Post by aquagoat on Oct 7, 2018 10:46:45 GMT -5
I actually don't want to see a new one. That's the DC approach: Lift out the characters and try to make up your own story. The results have been abysmal. Marvel has done much better mining continuity for story elements. Sorry, but that's such a classic fanboy misunderstanding. A. Movies based on DC Comics are made by Warner Bros, and whomever they employ to make them on a work-for-hire basis. Movies based on DC Comics are not made by DC Comics. B. Movies based on Marvel Comics are made by Marvel Studios, an independent film company, and whomever they employ to make them on a work-for-hire basis. Movies based on Marvel Comics are not made by Marvel Comics. <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.319999999999936px; height: 5.460000000000008px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_74454460" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1057px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_18489487" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 193px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_40743507" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1057px; top: 193px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_51675056" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.319999999999936px; height: 5.0800000000000125px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_39222414" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 5.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1057px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_81586832" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 5.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 192px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_86706165" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="5.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 5.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1057px; top: 192px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_99382698" scrolling="no"></iframe> C. Marvel Studios films play just as fast and lose with comics continuity as ones based on DC Comics - as is their right as adaptions. But an awful lot of the content of superhero movies can be traced back to the comics, to a degree that goes beyond most fan's actual knowledge of the comics. |
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Post by rberman on Oct 7, 2018 13:17:10 GMT -5
I actually don't want to see a new one. That's the DC approach: Lift out the characters and try to make up your own story. The results have been abysmal. Marvel has done much better mining continuity for story elements. Sorry, but that's such a classic fanboy misunderstanding. A. Movies based on DC Comics are made by Warner Bros, and whomever they employ to make them on a work-for-hire basis. Movies based on DC Comics are not made by DC Comics. B. Movies based on Marvel Comics are made by Marvel Studios, an independent film company, and whomever they employ to make them on a work-for-hire basis. Movies based on Marvel Comics are not made by Marvel Comics. C. Marvel Studios films play just as fast and loose with comics continuity as ones based on DC Comics - as is their right as adaptions. But an awful lot of the content of superhero movies can be traced back to the comics, to a degree that goes beyond most fan's actual knowledge of the comics. Call me a classic fanboy then I guess! I understand that both Marvel Comics and DC Comics are owned by huge media corporations who keep them alive just to control intellecutal property rights rather than because publishing comic cooks is such a gold mine in 2018. I understand that the people who make the comic books have no control over what goes in the movies. We could make lists of ways in which the Marvel and DC movies deviate from their respective universes (Jarvis is a computer! Steve Trevor is a WW1 pilot! Mantis is a naive geisha! Aquaman is a water Dothraki!), and there would be plenty to go around. However, as much as some of these details vary, I find the MCU a more effective adaptation of the Marvel Universe than the DCCU is of the DC Universe. I haven't seen any of the DC live action TV shows, and only a little of the cartoons, but my secondhand impression is that they are more successful in this respect. |
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Post by aquagoat on Oct 7, 2018 17:20:20 GMT -5
Sorry, but that's such a classic fanboy misunderstanding. A. Movies based on DC Comics are made by Warner Bros, and whomever they employ to make them on a work-for-hire basis. Movies based on DC Comics are not made by DC Comics. B. Movies based on Marvel Comics are made by Marvel Studios, an independent film company, and whomever they employ to make them on a work-for-hire basis. Movies based on Marvel Comics are not made by Marvel Comics. C. Marvel Studios films play just as fast and loose with comics continuity as ones based on DC Comics - as is their right as adaptions. But an awful lot of the content of superhero movies can be traced back to the comics, to a degree that goes beyond most fan's actual knowledge of the comics. Call me a classic fanboy then I guess! I understand that both Marvel Comics and DC Comics are owned by huge media corporations who keep them alive just to control intellecutal property rights rather than because publishing comic cooks is such a gold mine in 2018. I understand that the people who make the comic books have no control over what goes in the movies. We could make lists of ways in which the Marvel and DC movies deviate from their respective universes (Jarvis is a computer! Steve Trevor is a WW1 pilot! Mantis is a naive geisha! Aquaman is a water Dothraki!), and there would be plenty to go around. However, as much as some of these details vary, I find the MCU a more effective adaptation of the Marvel Universe than the DCCU is of the DC Universe. I haven't seen any of the DC live action TV shows, and only a little of the cartoons, but my secondhand impression is that they are more successful in this respect. Re-reading, my initial response comes across as quite condescending, so sorry for that. If you think the Marvel-based movies are better adaptions than the DC ones, that is of course a valid opinion (and one the majority would agree with), but my point is simply that the DC ones do mine the comics for material just as much as the Marvel ones. |
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Post by rberman on Dec 21, 2018 23:00:36 GMT -5
Just saw "Once Upon a Deadpool." That was some funny stuff. Not just the Fred Savage bits, but additional scenes that I'm pretty sure were not in the theatrical version. Plus a touching tribute to Stan Lee after the closing credits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 9:35:55 GMT -5
Another trailer out for Dark Phoenix - my gut reaction was "that looks really, really awful"
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