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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 28, 2017 10:37:37 GMT -5
Star Trek started in 1966 and after 3 seasons was canceled for poor ratings. Star Wars was released in 1977 and started a franchise that is among the most popular in motion picture history. Star Trek boasts 13 films and 5 shows , 4 of which were spin offs or continuations from the original. Star Wars has 5 TV shows to it's credit all of which have been animated . There is no question that Star Wars is far and way the most popular of the two, but why is that ? Is it the villain, the setting ,the characters?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:55:08 GMT -5
For the Record
Outside of the first three Star Wars Movies - and I'll continue to watch the adventures of those movies that starred Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Alec Guinness. All others Star Wars Movies aren't my cup of tea and I just don't care for them at all.
Star Trek is more interesting, more variety, and more stimulating to me because it's has more an entertainment value and having said that it's relates to me on a personal level. I loved the spinoffs, the big screen movies, and more importantly it's has the impact that made me wanting more of Star Trek.
I find the characters on Star Trek more interesting and offers more variety than Star Wars and that's why I just having problems relating to the hordes of Star Wars characters. Star Wars has it's continuity problems and that's plays a big part of not watching it anymore and I have a hard time dealing with a character of Darth Maul that has no meaning to me while Darth Vader does.
Trek has everything and more variety - Spock, Bones, McCoy, Seven of Nine, Picard, Kirk, and endless number of characters that were very interesting to me. I can list over 50 of them if I wanted to but I won't. I just can't relate to Star Wars at all and sorry fans of that Movie Series and that's why I'm boycotting all future Star Wars Movies because they don't do anything for me.
I'm a Star Trek Fan Forever!
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Post by badwolf on Mar 28, 2017 13:18:15 GMT -5
When I was a kid I was more into Star Wars, but now I much prefer Trek. I find the SW movies haven't really held up as I got older, though Empire is still pretty good (interestingly, the one I liked least as a child.) However, I do enjoy the classic Marvel SW comics. I think the style and types of stories SW tells are more suited to the comics form, somehow.
The main theme of Trek is exploration which interests me far more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 14:38:48 GMT -5
Hmm. Interesting question - let's think it through: ST:TOS is better than SW. ST:TNG is better than SW. ST:V is better than Star Wars. ST:DS9 I never got into, but it's better than SW. ST:Enterprise, I hated, and even that is better than SW. Star Trek 1 is... um. Well let's come back to that one. ST2 is better than SW. ST3 is better than SW. ST4 is better than SW. ST5... yes, let's move on. ST6 is better than SW. ST7 is terrible, but even that's better than the SW prequels. ST8 is better than SW. SW9 is better than SW. SW10, for all its many faults, is better than SW. ST: The Reboot is better than SW. ST:ID is better than SW. ST:B is better than SW.
ST has some iconic characters, and sustained itself for far, far longer. SW has some special effects, a bunch of Teddy Bears and Muppets, and cardboard characters, hackneyed plots, tin-eared dialogue and atrocious acting
So, pretty much a tie then ;-)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 28, 2017 14:49:18 GMT -5
Ask me on another day and I might have a different answer, but while Star Trek does a better job at symbolism and meaningful discourse, Star Wars is just so much more fun. I do love both, though
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 14:58:56 GMT -5
While I do like Star Trek quite a bit, Star Wars will always come first. Star Wars will always be in a deadlocked, permanent tie with Batman as my favourite fandom. The sheer amount of time and energy that I think about Star Wars and talk about Star Wars makes the poll an easy choice.
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Post by Cei-U! on Mar 28, 2017 15:27:21 GMT -5
I loved Star Trek from the moment the original series debuted in '66. I was writing Trek fan fiction at age 9, something I'd never done before for anything but the Universal movie monsters, the Marvel Super-Heroes, or the Hanna-Barbera funny animals (the Triune Godhead of my childhood). When the reruns weren't enough, I started amassing the James Blish novelizations, and the Making of Trek paperbacks. The Trek cartoon was the only Saturday morning TV I watched once I hit junior high. We even debated the possibilities of warp drive, transporter tech, and photon torpedoes in Mr. Sherwood's physics class. The show was, and remains, a formative influence in my life.
The Stars Wars movies are usually entertaining enough, but not one has ever given me pause for reflection as Trek has or featured characters I genuinely cared about. I was moved when Jim Kirk died. I just shrugged when Han Solo did. After buying the first Marvel issue, I never bothered with the comics, and I've never bothered with the books or the animated spin-offs. Sorry, Star Wars fans. Maybe at 18, I was just too old for Luke and the gang to instill that sense of wonder and reverence it gives you young'ns.
Cei-U! I summon the Great Bird of the Galaxy!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 16:36:16 GMT -5
Star Trek. My experience is very similar to Kurt's. Star Trek, Batman & Tarzan in 1966 all had a profound influence on what I like to do this day. I too bought all the James Blish adaptions of the TV series & the Alan Dean Foster adaptions of the animated series. ST6: The Undiscovered Country is my favorite movie.
Star Wars was just OK. I never sought out any SW beyond the original 3 movies & the novel adaptions & Alan Dean Foster's Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 16:44:32 GMT -5
I was a huge Star Trek fan and my Star Trek Megos were among my favorite toys, until the summer of 1977. Then I saw Star Wars. I saw it again when it was re-released a year later, the first time I had ever seen the same movie in a theatre twice. Once I got those Kenner Star Wars figures, my Star Trek Megos did not see the light of day to play with again. The Star Trek franchise has been hit or miss for me, and the concepts and universe only pulls me in when there is a great cast executing it well, and outside of the original series, the first 3 movies and the first few seasons of TNG, I have never rewatched anything Star Trek related nor been inclined to do so ( I don't think I have ever watched more than 1 episode of Voyager as the one I wached did nothing for me). Star Wars however, outside of the 3 prequel movies, I will watch or read over and over again if the opportunity presents itself. I've read some of the Trek novels produced through up through the 70s and I would say a third of them I started I never finished because they just couldn't hold my interest, and Trek comics have never really done it for me. I have read and reread a ton of Star Wars books, from Splinter of the Mind's Eye to the original Han Solo trilogy by Brian Daley to the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn to the current Aftermath stuff being put out, and I could rewatch the Clone Wars and Rebels animated series regularly.
So while I like Trek, and get why people are fans of it, it has just never captured my imagination and esteem like Star Wars has. Now my wife, would tell you this was like picking between her pets, there's no way she could pick one over the other, she loves them both.
-M
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Post by Confessor on Mar 28, 2017 17:01:37 GMT -5
Apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two. They're both set in space and they both have "Star" in the title, and that's where the similarity ends. They're not even from the same genre: one is science fiction, the other is space fantasy.
That said, personally, I love Star Wars much, much more than Star Trek. I am a fan of Star Trek (at least, the version with the original cast), but I obsessively love Star Wars.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 28, 2017 18:00:54 GMT -5
Is there a Star Trek vilian that compares to Darth Vader?
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 28, 2017 18:10:56 GMT -5
Ask me on another day and I might have a different answer, but while Star Trek does a better job at symbolism and meaningful discourse, Star Wars is just so much more fun. I do love both, though That's my feeling as well, they're both great but have two totally different goals in storytelling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 19:36:53 GMT -5
Is there a Star Trek vilian that compares to Darth Vader? Khan is closest. But because of the structure of Star Trek, you have a villain of the week or villain of the movie and there isn't as much time to flesh out their story. Generally, you meet them, learn their motivations, and see them defeated in the course of the one film. I think Vader would still be a great villain if A New Hope was all that existed, but he's even better because we have Empire.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 28, 2017 19:43:08 GMT -5
Not even close for me. Star Trek
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 28, 2017 20:28:30 GMT -5
Is there a Star Trek vilian that compares to Darth Vader? Khan is closest. But because of the structure of Star Trek, you have a villain of the week or villain of the movie and there isn't as much time to flesh out their story. Generally, you meet them, learn their motivations, and see them defeated in the course of the one film. I think Vader would still be a great villain if A New Hope was all that existed, but he's even better because we have Empire. I was thinking the Borg from STNG was the top threat. Every episode with them was a winner.
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