darrell
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Post by darrell on Apr 2, 2017 11:47:39 GMT -5
I'd say a lot of Bronze Age Batman, given the post-Miller revision that the comics sucked after Neal Adams moved on. The truth was far different. It wasn't consistent, but there were many great stories, such as the "I Killed Batman," storyline, where different villains claim credit and stand trial in the underworld to prove it. The death of Kathy Kane, at the hands of Bronze Tiger, is another, from Detective Comics (the Dollar Comics days). Vietnam Journal was highly under-appreciated ad relatively unseen. Thankfully, you can read them now, in book collections. It blows away The Nam (apart from the first year), including Don Lomax's stories in that series. Dean Motter's Mister X, Terminal City and Electropolis should have had bigger audiences. Mike Grell's Maggie the Cat should have been Velvet, 20 years ago. Instead, 2 issues were produced, to an indifferent market, who would rather read what passed for "stories" from other Image creators (not all; but, we know the usual suspects). Those post-Adams Batman stories in the 70s get overlooked, but they were some of my first glimpses of super-heroes, especially the dollar books and even the 100 page reprint volumes DC were putting out earlier (I would get those for 20 cents at the flea market and read the hell out of them).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:05:29 GMT -5
Yes, and please get off of his lawn. He works very hard to maintain it. As far as underappreciated stories go, I nominate the Carrion storyline from Peter Parker,The Spectacular Spider-Man #27 - #30. Keith Pollard covers, Bill Mantlo scripts, Jim Mooney and Frank Springer art playing off the clone saga that was still fresh in the minds of many readers. It deserves a second look. YES! This is actually in my top 3 favorite Marvel storylines and my all time favorite Spiderman storylines. Interesting that two board members would point this out. That really makes me want to read it. By the time this story was out I'd stopped reading this title.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 16:42:55 GMT -5
It was very much appreciated before you were born Yes, and please get off of his lawn. He works very hard to maintain it. As far as underappreciated stories go, I nominate the Carrion storyline from Peter Parker,The Spectacular Spider-Man #27 - #30. Keith Pollard covers, Bill Mantlo scripts, Jim Mooney and Frank Springer art playing off the clone saga that was still fresh in the minds of many readers. It deserves a second look. I agree this is a favorite storyline of mine and Carrion is one of my favorite villains of Spidey. Too bad when it was revealed who he actually was it wasn't who Bill Mantlo had originally intended him to be. It was changed I believe around issue #29. If you know who it was originally intended to be the clues are there. I would even go as far to say to include issues #25, #26 and #31 as part of the storyline. #25 being the first appearance of Carrion and some of the major plots were carried over from these issues and #31 concluding the storyline. All in all a great underrated arc.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 2, 2017 17:42:45 GMT -5
Well, for...! I've been ignoring this thread for days because I thought it said "underappreciated stores" and I had nothing to contribute! (I still don't, but now I can think about it.)
Cei-U! I summon the reading comprehension FAIL!
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Post by rom on Apr 2, 2017 18:15:26 GMT -5
My vote for underappreciated storylines would be the Classic Daredevil issues from around #192 (the first post-Frank Miller comic) to around #225 (right before the Born Again storyline). Excellent stories that included: An excellent stand-alone Ben Urich-centric story; Daredevil & Wolverine in Japan; the return of Bullseye; the Micah Synn storyline; DD fighting the Vulture; etc. I haven't read all of these issues, and it's been years since I read any of them. I hope that Marvel reprints all of these in the Epic series - these would make for a great Trade (or maybe 2 trades).
Thanks for the reminder of that Carrion PPTSSM storyline - I don't think I actually read those issues, but do remember seeing them on the stands at the time. I find PPTSSM & ASM to have been at their height in the '70's - early '80's (before the black costume Secret Wars storyline).
Thankfully, Classic PPTSSM will start being reprinted in the MMW format this summer, so we should get this Carrion storyline in the next couple of years...
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Post by berkley on Apr 2, 2017 19:30:11 GMT -5
Well, for...! I've been ignoring this thread for days because I thought it said "underappreciated stores" and I had nothing to contribute! (I still don't, but now I can think about it.) Cei-U! I summon the reading comprehension FAIL! I made the same mistake the first few times I saw the thread.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 2, 2017 20:43:10 GMT -5
Everyone raves about Jack Cole's Plastic Man but I'm nuts about his earlier work for Lev Gleason on Silver Streak, Daredevil, The Claw, The Pirate Prince, and Dickie Dean, Boy Inventor. This stuff is awesomely wacky!
Cei-U! I love my job!
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 2, 2017 20:50:13 GMT -5
I nominate Avengers #137-140. Engelhart follows the Celestial Madonna saga with a recruitment drive Involving The Beast of X-men fame, and the abrasive Moondragon. What follows is an attack by the Stranger and founders Thor and Ironman , Wasp and Hank Pym involved in this 4 issue arc. I really enjoy re-reading this set of stories that feature great George Tuska/Vinnie Colleta artwork. Avengers Assemble!!
One of the Highlights for me is various inactive Avengers turning down membership, Especially Pietro.
He's ever the d**k.
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darrell
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Post by darrell on Apr 2, 2017 23:31:22 GMT -5
I nominate Avengers #137-140. Engelhart follows the Celestial Madonna saga with a recruitment drive Involving The Beast of X-men fame, and the abrasive Moondragon. What follows is an attack by the Stranger and founders Thor and Ironman , Wasp and Hank Pym involved in this 4 issue arc. I really enjoy re-reading this set of stories that feature great George Tuska/Vinnie Colleta artwork. Avengers Assemble!!
One of the Highlights for me is various inactive Avengers turning down membership, Especially Pietro.
He's ever the d**k. Oh, man, I forgot about that period that Iron Man had a nose. I read the Untold Story of Marvel recently, and that was Stan deciding, "Shouldn't he have a nose?" and then a few months later coming back into the office and wondering why Iron Man had a nose on his helmet.
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Post by berkley on Apr 2, 2017 23:53:42 GMT -5
I was going to suggest the last story of Englehart's and the first of George Perez's respective Avengers runs, the Roxxon/Squadron Supreme story, but wasn't sure how under-rated it was, since I think most long-time fans agree that Englehart was one of the all-time top Avengers writers, if not the very best of them all. One of my great regrets in comics is that his time on the series didn't last longer, especially once George Perez came on board. To have had that great Perez artwork with Englehart writing would have been like a dream.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 3, 2017 9:29:29 GMT -5
Dwyer's. Used to right between the First National market and a Radio Shack. Every week, like clockwork, every possible comic you could want. Made it so easy to find your favorites in the mid-70s.
>sigh<
Oooooh, wait, you meant stories.
Never mind.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 3, 2017 9:58:37 GMT -5
Avengers 12 through 20: Cap's Kooky Quartet era along with issues bringing back Goliath and the Wasp. You have essentially the weakest team of Avengers ever in their history where the big powers are Quicksilver's speed and his sister Wanda's Hex taking on the likes of big time baddies Baron Zemo, Powerman, Enchantress, Executioner, Kang the Conqueror, Doctor Doom and Attuma with his horde of Atlantean's as well as the 1st Sons of the Serpent. And the team comes out on top. Along with splendid and under appreciated Don Heck,Wally Wood, Dick Ayers and Frank Giacoia artwork.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 3, 2017 12:34:54 GMT -5
Avengers 12 through 20: Cap's Kooky Quartet era along with issues bringing back Goliath and the Wasp. You have essentially the weakest team of Avengers ever in their history where the big powers are Quicksilver's speed and his sister Wanda's Hex taking on the likes of big time baddies Baron Zemo, Powerman, Enchantress, Executioner, Kang the Conqueror, Doctor Doom and Attuma with his horde of Atlantean's as well as the 1st Sons of the Serpent. And the team comes out on top. Along with splendid and under appreciated Don Heck,Wally Wood, Dick Ayers and Frank Giacoia artwork. I can't like this enough. I like that all of them wanted Cap's job and the soap opera aspects.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 3, 2017 16:38:10 GMT -5
Doom Patrol (the Drake-Premiani years) Hercules Unbound War is Hell All-American Men of War 113, 114, 116 (Balloon Buster)
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Post by brutalis on Apr 3, 2017 17:00:18 GMT -5
Another Marvel favorite of mine: The Man called Nova issues 1-11. Marv Wolfman writes up the origin and beginnings of a new young hero trying to capture the flavor and feel of Spider-Man. Pretty much he hits it spot on and creates an untried teens attempts to become a true hero. He fights some other hero's villains as well as new ones of his own. This run introduces the Sphinx, the Condor, Diamondhead, Powerhouse and other low end one shot villains. The Sphinx has staying power enough to be utilized to this day and Nova himself must have something even the corporate big shots recognize because he is still beloved today.
In this 1st run of stories the Sphinx is built upon from the shadows with only hints of his true powers and potential. Diamondhead is cast as the tough gangster/brawler and Condor the scientific villain and with Powerhouse a villain that is actually a hero taken advantage of. By the end of this set of stories all are given strong characterization and young Rich Rider proves himself a real hero even to the begrudging admittance of the Sphinx. Gooood stuff with John and Sal Buscema art putting Nova into the pantheon of Marvel heroes.
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